Jesus, why are y'all being so rude to them 0__0. It's obvious that Justin made a mistake going in the stream but it was a dick move by the casters to talk shit about the players they're casting. That, and if you read the whole thing, it's pretty obvious that they didn't mean any harm. Please stop being so mean and accept that they had reasons for doing what they did :(.
LyknJesus, why are y'all being so rude to them 0__0. It's obvious that Justin made a mistake going in the stream but it was a dick move by the casters to talk shit about the players they're casting. That, and if you read the whole thing, it's pretty obvious that they didn't mean any harm. Please stop being so mean and accept that they had reasons for doing what they did :(.
They want blood for the blood gods.
That or they don't have dates tonight.
They want blood for the blood gods.
That or they don't have dates tonight.
In my opionion, the difference between you doing offclassing and silly weapons and AG doing it was that AG had a really exciting and actually pretty close game, while you guys just got 5-0'd very quickly. (not to mention the rumors of it being done for seeding differences)
It's always interesting how people can be so sure about what happened after hearing a story, then they hear the other perspective and the context changes everything that happened, despite all of the events witnessed being exactly the same.
Poor judgement all around, but it seems a lot of this situation was exacerbated by the casters. Assigning motives to other people and then coming down on them on the basis of motives you are assigning to them is a recipe for a lot of hatred and antagonism that really doesn't need to be there. When you are in a position to lead an audience that is really unprofessional.
Poor judgement all around, but it seems a lot of this situation was exacerbated by the casters. Assigning motives to other people and then coming down on them on the basis of motives [i]you [/i]are assigning to them is a recipe for a lot of hatred and antagonism that really doesn't need to be there. When you are in a position to lead an audience that is really unprofessional.
I'm glad that the anger directed at your team provoked you to make an actual response, thank you for giving your side of the story
What was comically a dick move has now been comically overblown. It reads out on the forum like some big scandal and really it was just a snowballing of poorly made decisions by many groups of people. There are four things we need to keep in mind. I'll list them in order of importance.
1) The charity event is a fantastic thing with a chance to help kids in need (which is great enough) but also a chance to gain exposure for our game. It must not be diminished in any way.
2) My name is still invite blue and not pink, this is probably really embarrassing for someone somewhere.
3) All casts are free exposure for our game. Those who care about the game, players/casters should never strive to give anything but 110% in order to make us all look good. Esports become a joke when nerds start yelling at eachother over the internet. Esports also become a joke when it loses its competitive tension. A casted game should never suffer either.
4) Really, pink looks good on me, I have the light eyes for it.
1) The charity event is a fantastic thing with a chance to help kids in need (which is great enough) but also a chance to gain exposure for our game. It must not be diminished in any way.
2) My name is still invite blue and not pink, this is probably really embarrassing for someone somewhere.
3) All casts are free exposure for our game. Those who care about the game, players/casters should never strive to give anything but 110% in order to make us all look good. Esports become a joke when nerds start yelling at eachother over the internet. Esports also become a joke when it loses its competitive tension. A casted game should never suffer either.
4) Really, pink looks good on me, I have the light eyes for it.
BLoodSireWhat was comically a dick move has now been comically overblown. It reads out on the forum like some big scandal and really it was just a snowballing of poorly made decisions by many groups of people. There are four things we need to keep in mind. I'll list them in order of importance.
1) The charity event is a fantastic thing with a chance to help kids in need (which is great enough) but also a chance to gain exposure for our game. It must not be diminished in any way.
2) My name is still invite blue and not pink, this is probably really embarrassing for someone somewhere.
3) All casts are free exposure for our game. Those who care about the game, players/casters should never strive to give anything but 110% in order to make us all look good. Esports become a joke when nerds start yelling at eachother over the internet. Esports also become a joke when it loses its competitive tension. A casted game should never suffer either.
4) Really, pink looks good on me, I have the light eyes for it.
Tonight, a wish came true.
1) The charity event is a fantastic thing with a chance to help kids in need (which is great enough) but also a chance to gain exposure for our game. It must not be diminished in any way.
2) My name is still invite blue and not pink, this is probably really embarrassing for someone somewhere.
3) All casts are free exposure for our game. Those who care about the game, players/casters should never strive to give anything but 110% in order to make us all look good. Esports become a joke when nerds start yelling at eachother over the internet. Esports also become a joke when it loses its competitive tension. A casted game should never suffer either.
4) Really, pink looks good on me, I have the light eyes for it.[/quote]
Tonight, a wish came true.
BLoodSire2) My name is still invite blue and not pink, this is probably really embarrassing for someone somewhere.
4) Really, pink looks good on me, I have the light eyes for it.
SO PINK
4) Really, pink looks good on me, I have the light eyes for it.[/quote]
SO PINK
BLoodSire...well that was quick...
Happy Valentines day.
Happy Valentines day.
bigpoopyJustin: "you have no idea what you're talking about", "we never did that"... "ok", "i never said that"
pretty atrocious stuff.
Truly the monster we have made him out to be.
pretty atrocious stuff.[/quote]
Truly the monster we have made him out to be.
Everything you have said is completely fine by me, except for the part about why you guys didn't take our game serious yesterday.
You claim that you off classed thinking that it would be fun to watch and you wanted to give the viewers a treat, but at the same time, justin messages the casters and says "we will be off-classing just a heads up if you don't want to cast it". If you guys really wanted to give the viewers something fun and exciting to watch that's probably not something you would say lol. It just makes it feel like you guys threw the game and now you are just trying to cover it up by saying you wanted to do it for fun.
Clearly the other team, the viewers, and the casters were not happy with your decision to off class but you do it anyway. I honestly do feel that you guys threw the game to purposely get 4th seed or for some other scummy reason. And with some of the players on your team and their attitudes I wouldn't put it past them.
As far as all your other things you mentioned, none of that really concerns me.
You claim that you off classed thinking that it would be fun to watch and you wanted to give the viewers a treat, but at the same time, justin messages the casters and says "we will be off-classing just a heads up if you don't want to cast it". If you guys really wanted to give the viewers something fun and exciting to watch that's probably not something you would say lol. It just makes it feel like you guys threw the game and now you are just trying to cover it up by saying you wanted to do it for fun.
Clearly the other team, the viewers, and the casters were not happy with your decision to off class but you do it anyway. I honestly do feel that you guys threw the game to purposely get 4th seed or for some other scummy reason. And with some of the players on your team and their attitudes I wouldn't put it past them.
As far as all your other things you mentioned, none of that really concerns me.
Wait what if there is a caster who is Invite. What color would they be?
aimWait what if there is a caster who is Invite. What color would they be?
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aimWait what if there is a caster who is Invite. What color would they be?
lavender
lavender
thank you for telling your side, i think people can make personal decisions on who they want to believe and this doesn't have to be an issue. tf2 can still grow and we don't really need to dwell on last night's fiasco. in the words on the great Twitch John "Let's just play some eSports."
kaidusOh god just let it go.
I love you *reaches hand out*
I love you *reaches hand out*
me, as an eu outsider that doesn't watch the streams and doesn't follow na stuff i come to this. I don't think this is anyone's fault but everyone's, i mean if you're gonna main page the cast for 1000+ people to watch at least be organized, if they don't want to be casted don't cast them. na tf2 is retarded :D
j0ly na tf2 is retarded :D
Bold, bold ending.
Bold, bold ending.
I like how you said "We prepared our asses off for badlands and came in and smoked Xen after they made us wait 30 min to start. We have 2 people on the East coast with jobs in the morning so the delays are not generally appreciated."
I totally intentionally made you wait 30 minutes by not having premium for some unexplained reason, I just wanted to fuck you over and keep you up. I'm sorry I can't cater to all your wishes when people on our team have the same responsibilities. It was just a circumstance out of my control. congrats on winning
I totally intentionally made you wait 30 minutes by not having premium for some unexplained reason, I just wanted to fuck you over and keep you up. I'm sorry I can't cater to all your wishes when people on our team have the same responsibilities. It was just a circumstance out of my control. congrats on winning
Ma3laaI like how you said "We prepared our asses off for badlands and came in and smoked Xen after they made us wait 30 min to start. We have 2 people on the East coast with jobs in the morning so the delays are not generally appreciated."
I totally intentionally made you wait 30 minutes by not having premium for some unexplained reason, I just wanted to fuck you over and keep you up. I'm sorry I can't cater to all your wishes when people on our team have the same responsibilities. It was just a circumstance out of my control. congrats on winning
I dunno why he worded it like that, because it was a client issue and I had something similar happen to me on metalworks. fuck off, seanbud.
I totally intentionally made you wait 30 minutes by not having premium for some unexplained reason, I just wanted to fuck you over and keep you up. I'm sorry I can't cater to all your wishes when people on our team have the same responsibilities. It was just a circumstance out of my control. congrats on winning[/quote]
I dunno why he worded it like that, because it was a client issue and I had something similar happen to me on metalworks. fuck off, seanbud.
As an outsider looking in, this whole thing is just embarrassing to read.
Move on, kiss and make up get drunk together at LAN and an apology wouldn't be amiss. I respect people more who admit they let their emotions get the better of their actions than dance around the whole subject, if anyone deserves an apology it's Twitchtv John.
Move on, kiss and make up get drunk together at LAN and an apology wouldn't be amiss. I respect people more who admit they let their emotions get the better of their actions than dance around the whole subject, if anyone deserves an apology it's Twitchtv John.
Ma3laaI like how you said "We prepared our asses off for badlands and came in and smoked Xen after they made us wait 30 min to start. We have 2 people on the East coast with jobs in the morning so the delays are not generally appreciated."
I totally intentionally made you wait 30 minutes by not having premium for some unexplained reason, I just wanted to fuck you over and keep you up. I'm sorry I can't cater to all your wishes when people on our team have the same responsibilities. It was just a circumstance out of my control. congrats on winning
we were in the server 10-15 min early, you were still scrimming at 10:03 when I messaged smaka. I know the client issue wasn't your fault but waiting until after match time to find out you dont have premium wasn't necessary, and the delay would have been much shorter if you had checked on things prior.
I totally intentionally made you wait 30 minutes by not having premium for some unexplained reason, I just wanted to fuck you over and keep you up. I'm sorry I can't cater to all your wishes when people on our team have the same responsibilities. It was just a circumstance out of my control. congrats on winning[/quote]
we were in the server 10-15 min early, you were still scrimming at 10:03 when I messaged smaka. I know the client issue wasn't your fault but waiting until after match time to find out you dont have premium wasn't necessary, and the delay would have been much shorter if you had checked on things prior.
seanbudMa3laaI like how you said "We prepared our asses off for badlands and came in and smoked Xen after they made us wait 30 min to start. We have 2 people on the East coast with jobs in the morning so the delays are not generally appreciated."
I totally intentionally made you wait 30 minutes by not having premium for some unexplained reason, I just wanted to fuck you over and keep you up. I'm sorry I can't cater to all your wishes when people on our team have the same responsibilities. It was just a circumstance out of my control. congrats on winning
we were in the server 10-15 min early, you were still scrimming at 10:03 when I messaged smaka. I know the client issue wasn't your fault but waiting until after match time to find out you dont have premium wasn't necessary, and the delay would have been much shorter if you had checked on things prior.
How many times have you checked to see if you had premium before matches this season? I would guess zero, and there is no reason to really check it since when you pay the fee you should have premium.
I'm sorry for not joining the server immediately on time and all, but I assumed I would have premium and it wouldnt take another 15 minutes
I totally intentionally made you wait 30 minutes by not having premium for some unexplained reason, I just wanted to fuck you over and keep you up. I'm sorry I can't cater to all your wishes when people on our team have the same responsibilities. It was just a circumstance out of my control. congrats on winning[/quote]
we were in the server 10-15 min early, you were still scrimming at 10:03 when I messaged smaka. I know the client issue wasn't your fault but waiting until after match time to find out you dont have premium wasn't necessary, and the delay would have been much shorter if you had checked on things prior.[/quote]
How many times have you checked to see if you had premium before matches this season? I would guess zero, and there is no reason to really check it since when you pay the fee you should have premium.
I'm sorry for not joining the server immediately on time and all, but I assumed I would have premium and it wouldnt take another 15 minutes