Don't play ammomod.

Nah, I like it.

With that logic why doesn't everyone just counterjump and shotgun deny?

i like arguing about mge on video game forums
burn the gays

Yeah cause practicing airshots on surfing targets is so pointless! Better sit back and spam from range hoping your enemy walks into a direct (cause admit it, it's not hard to dodge a direct at this range).

I don't think anyone is saying that at all. If you want to practice airshots on surfing targets, play endif or spire as they are much more suited for that type of practice. You can do it in ammomod but because of the layout of the arena, it turns into a surfing/shotgun fest and quite frankly that is retarded if your goal is improvement.

ammomod is one of the best, if not the best, arena for simple practice of your tracking regardless of what your opponent is doing to you.

Who does that ingame? Nobody because thats not how 6's works.

I do that...

You wouldn't counterjump an opponent at mid?!?! Literally every gunboats pocket does this. One of the reasons shotgun is powerful is because of the amount of denying you can do

i mean you may also counterjump or play heavy in game, but it's extremely annoying to play against and provides no real practice

how does counterjumping provide no real practice?

also to the op I watched for a few minutes and your aim is definitely a problem its fine to focus on your movement and stuff but there were a lot of fights that you should have won if you just relaxed and hit your rockets from what I saw your shotgun was great though so thats a bonus

as for movement something people do that makes it hard for me to hit them is they will walk in 1 direction for a long time and at a lot of ranges they can just react to when my rocket is going to land in front of them and walk away from it it may just be a low ping vs high ping move but its worth a try just hold A until you think they are gonna direct you then press D but I dunno how much out of MGE worth you will get out of it

Just play a jump map if you want to practice counterjumping

jump maps dont have people to shoot at or people shooting at you and jump maps are not pieces of 6s maps

recommending the two most garbage mge maps nice

spire airshots are barely airshots because they're just trying to get up to your level, endif is just... what the fuck who even thought it up it's so unlike anything else in this game that it's just a waste of time

endif is great for newer players trying to get a feel for rocket speeds and spire is a great map because the other person is basically always in the air, rarely any fights that won't start out without an airshot

So one thing I didn't understand is why do you sometimes killbind? I mean I understand that you were doing it when it was clear you would lose a particular life but there are no advantages to killbinding on ammomod. All you are doing is reducing the amount of practice you can squeeze in in one match. It might be worth it to killbind on other arenas when you are 5 health and on the low ground but in ammomod you can always see your opponent at a reasonable height and distance. So why not just go for the shots?

People don't like losing, people like winning, means they will play to win. Doesn't matter if "omg you won't improve if you do it like that you are doing it wrong!!" Their attitude is better than yours because they will do everything to win which is a good attitude to have. Yeah maybe playing "gay" isn't the best way to improve but if you are better than them you would still beat them you are just using an excuse for losing. Most prem players play gay as fuck because that's how they actually play 6's too. Stop crying about people who play gay, rather focus on you getting better and beat them anyway.

well said and id like add that most of playing gay isnt as bad practice as people meme about

counterjumping is a real thing that people do and you can be really bad at it and really good at it and its great to practice doing and practice playing against

shotgun denying is fucking sick hitscan practice and its not as all powerful as people think if you are getting fucked up by someone shotty denying hes probably better than you anyway and you need to learn how to ctap and strafe because you can make yourself hard af to hit and if he still is shitting on you then hes just aiming really well and at that point what are you complaining about?

playing super passive and sitting on badlands mid crates jumping on and off is good movement practice I dont do this often because I dont find it as fun but I should do it because I get directed from people sitting on lowground/far away from me a lot because I never practice it

honestly aim isnt the problem, i bet people like Autokrab and Timus can beat 90% of the MGE players with one finger on the mouse. "3D movements" is the key, you're only moving left and right, it's easy to direct you.
You must move back, and then surf in. Also when you surf, surf on the sides and strafe with W while looking at your opponent, it's the Russian strafe : you are unairshottable + your aim is always consistent since you keep it on your target.

Or you can just https://tf2.nullcorecheat.net/ not detected but expensive af :'D

Nice alt broda.

Yeah lets hack in mge that would totally not be a waste of time!!

well, i dont think it would be, since now there's only cunts denying shotgun, it would still be enjoyable to make them mad :D

Yeah it would be enjoyable if you could actually beat them with your skill. Wow you beat a denying shotgun cunt with hacks you must feel so good about yourself :o

lol like i would need any cheats to beat them, and since you're an old player, you should know that i was one of the only french not cheating ;)

What has this turned into...

I'm an old player? Thats the first time I've heard that, and I dont know if you were cheating nor do I care.

I'm wank at surfing rockets, rather than dodging as such.

Usually I take a big fat one instead of surfing it.

a little joke baited some haters, np m8 just follow the advices

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Endif is good for a couple things, but only if you play it the way people used to in quake, i.e. shooting people as they fall from the spawns. the major lessons from the arena are how to gain horizontal momentum just from airstrafing and how to shoot people who are falling and trying to avoid getting hit. If you play it the way 90% of people I see in mge playing it, that is to say by not shooting until both players are on the ground, then it's actual baby aids.

Like I said in an earlier post, there is good practice and bad practice. You need to figure out what you want to play MGE for and then go do it. Play to Warmup, Play to Win, Play to improve, etc Once you know your goal, you can work on your game and it doesn't matter much how other people play.

Some people play MGE just to win and don't care what tactics they use to achieve that goal. There is nothing wrong with ppl doing that but you also don't have to play along if you feel it is not helping you. If playing to win using retarded tactics doesn't suit your goals just leave the arena and play elsewhere for your own reasons.

I play MGE to warmup and stay sharp. I really don't give a shit if I win or lose and if I run into an MGE idiot, (which happens fairly often) I simply leave the arena/server and find a new person to play against.