Nursey leaves froyotech, joins EVL Gaming

#31

rccoon

10 Frags – +

-feminist +drunk

#32

Capu

71 Frags – +

People taking saam seriously in 2017...

[url=https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/4zffjg/slin_was_cut_from_his_team/d6vif70/]People taking saam seriously in 2017...[/url]

#33

rando

45 Frags – +

Guess i Got TRoLLEd Lo<>L

#34

crackbabydumpster

14 Frags – +

randosaamGod what's the point? Win 12 more dollars in invite? If you can make it to Invite finals you'll be fine next season. The guy even said playing with Cookie was fun. So keep playing with him and improve as a team and each win will be so much more rewarding. I somehow doubt a different med is going to catapult this team to Invite champions. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've been on both sides of this situation. Cutting players that I considered friends for performance reasons was one of the shittiest things I've done, and both times I did the teams folded after a season anyway. I also medic'd and won a lower division but the team was afraid of how we would perform in Invite so we disbanded instead of moving up. This was like 5 damn years ago and it just frustrates me that this stuff is still happening in tf2. Competitive tf2 is a hobby. No one is going to make it into a career. So stop making decisions like there's real money on the line. There's not. Form a team with people you enjoy playing with, and compete.
This got ranty but I love cookiejake and I'm frustrated seeing shit like this in tf2.
What the fuck are you going on about?

congrats, your new medic might bump you up a spot or two in the final standings, but you'll probably just get vincented either way.

all you've done is birthed a new meme. your replacement will be under a microscope. and as soon as he fucks up, twitch chat is going to have a field day.

cookie was right
corsa was left

you get the idea

[quote=rando][quote=saam]God what's the point? Win 12 more dollars in invite? If you can make it to Invite finals you'll be fine next season. The guy even said playing with Cookie was fun. So keep playing with him and improve as a team and each win will be so much more rewarding. I somehow doubt a different med is going to catapult this team to Invite champions. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've been on both sides of this situation. Cutting players that I considered friends for performance reasons was one of the shittiest things I've done, and both times I did the teams folded after a season anyway. I also medic'd and won a lower division but the team was afraid of how we would perform in Invite so we disbanded instead of moving up. This was like 5 damn years ago and it just frustrates me that this stuff is still happening in tf2. Competitive tf2 is a hobby. No one is going to make it into a career. So stop making decisions like there's real money on the line. There's not. Form a team with people you enjoy playing with, and compete.
This got ranty but I love cookiejake and I'm frustrated seeing shit like this in tf2.[/quote]

What the fuck are you going on about?[/quote]

congrats, your new medic might bump you up a spot or two in the final standings, but you'll probably just get vincented either way.

all you've done is birthed a new meme. your replacement will be under a microscope. and as soon as he fucks up, twitch chat is going to have a field day.

cookie was right
corsa was left

you get the idea

#35

rocketslay

26 Frags – +

saam as soon as he fucks up, twitch chat is going to have a field day

twitch chat already has a field day with nursey's gender ffs

[quote=saam] as soon as he fucks up, twitch chat is going to have a field day[/quote]
twitch chat already has a field day with nursey's gender ffs

#36

habib

42 Frags – +

saamrandosaamGod what's the point? Win 12 more dollars in invite? If you can make it to Invite finals you'll be fine next season. The guy even said playing with Cookie was fun. So keep playing with him and improve as a team and each win will be so much more rewarding. I somehow doubt a different med is going to catapult this team to Invite champions. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've been on both sides of this situation. Cutting players that I considered friends for performance reasons was one of the shittiest things I've done, and both times I did the teams folded after a season anyway. I also medic'd and won a lower division but the team was afraid of how we would perform in Invite so we disbanded instead of moving up. This was like 5 damn years ago and it just frustrates me that this stuff is still happening in tf2. Competitive tf2 is a hobby. No one is going to make it into a career. So stop making decisions like there's real money on the line. There's not. Form a team with people you enjoy playing with, and compete.
This got ranty but I love cookiejake and I'm frustrated seeing shit like this in tf2.
What the fuck are you going on about?
congrats, your new medic might bump you up a spot or two in the final standings, but you'll probably just get vincented either way.

all you've done is birthed a new meme. your replacement will be under a microscope. and as soon as he fucks up, twitch chat is going to have a field day.

cookie was right
corsa was left

you get the idea

ive never seen this saam before, but I like this, play pocket scout with this mentality and you will mawl everyone, just make sure you DM

also im going to fucking bury nursey 400ft into the ground this season

[quote=saam][quote=rando][quote=saam]God what's the point? Win 12 more dollars in invite? If you can make it to Invite finals you'll be fine next season. The guy even said playing with Cookie was fun. So keep playing with him and improve as a team and each win will be so much more rewarding. I somehow doubt a different med is going to catapult this team to Invite champions. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've been on both sides of this situation. Cutting players that I considered friends for performance reasons was one of the shittiest things I've done, and both times I did the teams folded after a season anyway. I also medic'd and won a lower division but the team was afraid of how we would perform in Invite so we disbanded instead of moving up. This was like 5 damn years ago and it just frustrates me that this stuff is still happening in tf2. Competitive tf2 is a hobby. No one is going to make it into a career. So stop making decisions like there's real money on the line. There's not. Form a team with people you enjoy playing with, and compete.
This got ranty but I love cookiejake and I'm frustrated seeing shit like this in tf2.[/quote]

What the fuck are you going on about?[/quote]

congrats, your new medic might bump you up a spot or two in the final standings, but you'll probably just get vincented either way.

all you've done is birthed a new meme. your replacement will be under a microscope. and as soon as he fucks up, twitch chat is going to have a field day.

cookie was right
corsa was left

you get the idea[/quote]

ive never seen this saam before, but I like this, play pocket scout with this mentality and you will mawl everyone, just make sure you DM

also im going to fucking bury nursey 400ft into the ground this season

#37

vonixyy

-34 Frags – +

FROYO Mocha when?

#FROYOMOCHA

FROYO Mocha when?

#FROYOMOCHA

#38

DoctorMiggy

40 Frags – +

I actually gotta give it to Nursey
Not many people can take a step back and say to themselves "Did I really earn this?" then set out to prove their worth.
Most folks would have stayed in Froyo.

It's a good character trait to have both in game and in life.

I actually gotta give it to Nursey
Not many people can take a step back and say to themselves "Did I really earn this?" then set out to prove their worth.
Most folks would have stayed in Froyo.

It's a good character trait to have both in game and in life.

#39

Twiggy

30 Frags – +

good to see rando/bdonski for one more season. What are evl's plans for i61?

#40

rocketslay

22 Frags – +

Twiggygood to see rando/bdonski for one more season. What are evl's plans for i61?

don't hold your breath

[quote=Twiggy]good to see rando/bdonski for one more season. What are evl's plans for i61?[/quote]
don't hold your breath

#41

Kylo_ren

4 Frags – +

DoctorMiggyI actually gotta give it to Nursey
Not many people can take a step back and say to themselves "Did I really earn this?" then set out to prove their worth.
Most folks would have stayed in Froyo.

It's a good character trait to have both in game and in life.

Well FROYO wouldn't have chosen her if she wasn't good. I mean she replaced the almighty Shade Dante Funari which I mean was a hard burden to carry. But overall I mean don't see the point. You got to the top and well I can understand new experience but I mean its almost as if you are snobbing froyo off as if they weren't enough of a challenge

[quote=DoctorMiggy]I actually gotta give it to Nursey
Not many people can take a step back and say to themselves "Did I really earn this?" then set out to prove their worth.
Most folks would have stayed in Froyo.

It's a good character trait to have both in game and in life.[/quote]

Well FROYO wouldn't have chosen her if she wasn't good. I mean she replaced the almighty Shade Dante Funari which I mean was a hard burden to carry. But overall I mean don't see the point. You got to the top and well I can understand new experience but I mean its almost as if you are snobbing froyo off as if they weren't enough of a challenge

#42

Nursey

-1 Frags – +

Kylo_renWell FROYO wouldn't have chosen her if she wasn't good. I mean she replaced the almighty Shade Dante Funari which I mean was a hard burden to carry. But overall I mean don't see the point. You got to the top and well I can understand new experience but I mean its almost as if you are snobbing froyo off as if they weren't enough of a challenge

As far as I am aware I was only picked up because of my prior top level experience. Replacing shade was not a burden at all, even though playing medic on froyotech was actually the hardest time I've had on any team (it was a good challenge, this is not meant as an insult). I fail to understand why anyone seems insulted by this relatively harmless situation.

[quote=Kylo_ren]Well FROYO wouldn't have chosen her if she wasn't good. I mean she replaced the almighty Shade Dante Funari which I mean was a hard burden to carry. But overall I mean don't see the point. You got to the top and well I can understand new experience but I mean its almost as if you are snobbing froyo off as if they weren't enough of a challenge[/quote]

As far as I am aware I was only picked up because of my prior top level experience. Replacing shade was not a burden at all, even though playing medic on froyotech was actually the hardest time I've had on any team (it was a good challenge, this is not meant as an insult). I fail to understand why anyone seems insulted by this relatively harmless situation.

#43

jrod

12 Frags – +

The only way to beat FROYO is with FROYO

#44

ToRRHiP

0 Frags – +

garbuglio rejoin???

#45

Kylo_ren

0 Frags – +

NurseyKylo_renWell FROYO wouldn't have chosen her if she wasn't good. I mean she replaced the almighty Shade Dante Funari which I mean was a hard burden to carry. But overall I mean don't see the point. You got to the top and well I can understand new experience but I mean its almost as if you are snobbing froyo off as if they weren't enough of a challenge
As far as I am aware I was only picked up because of my prior top level experience. Replacing shade was not a burden at all, even though playing medic on froyotech was actually the hardest time I've had on any team (it was a good challenge, this is not meant as an insult). I fail to understand why anyone seems insulted by this relatively harmless situation.

I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game. And well living up to that standard that the FROYO team was used to was hard. What I don't understand is why go back to EVL.....I am not insulted in any way I'm just thinking.....why abandon the chance to be great and join a team which is forever second....No offence to EVL (can already hear people yelling that Ascent won s20 but being honest that was a one off)

[quote=Nursey][quote=Kylo_ren]Well FROYO wouldn't have chosen her if she wasn't good. I mean she replaced the almighty Shade Dante Funari which I mean was a hard burden to carry. But overall I mean don't see the point. You got to the top and well I can understand new experience but I mean its almost as if you are snobbing froyo off as if they weren't enough of a challenge[/quote]

As far as I am aware I was only picked up because of my prior top level experience. Replacing shade was not a burden at all, even though playing medic on froyotech was actually the hardest time I've had on any team (it was a good challenge, this is not meant as an insult). I fail to understand why anyone seems insulted by this relatively harmless situation.[/quote]

I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game. And well living up to that standard that the FROYO team was used to was hard. What I don't understand is why go back to EVL.....I am not insulted in any way I'm just thinking.....why abandon the chance to be great and join a team which is forever second....No offence to EVL (can already hear people yelling that Ascent won s20 but being honest that was a one off)

#46

Ombrack

47 Frags – +

Kylo_ren
I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game.

Raymon strongly disagrees

[quote=Kylo_ren]

I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game. [/quote]

Raymon strongly disagrees

#47

cookie

0 Frags – +

VulcanThe only way to beat FROYO is with FROYO

Ash reference? \o/

[quote=Vulcan]The only way to beat FROYO is with FROYO[/quote]
Ash reference? \o/

#48

glass

23 Frags – +

OmbrackKylo_ren
I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game.
Raymon strongly disagrees

hard to compare them because shade never really had to carry

[quote=Ombrack][quote=Kylo_ren]

I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game. [/quote]

Raymon strongly disagrees[/quote]
hard to compare them because shade never really had to carry

#49

Kylo_ren

1 Frags – +

glassOmbrackKylo_ren
I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game.
Raymon strongly disagreeshard to compare them because shade never really had to carry

Guess I said arguably for a reason...

[quote=glass][quote=Ombrack][quote=Kylo_ren]

I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game. [/quote]

Raymon strongly disagrees[/quote]
hard to compare them because shade never really had to carry[/quote]

Guess I said arguably for a reason...

#50

EoN

-3 Frags – +

Kylo_renglassOmbrackKylo_ren
I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game.
Raymon strongly disagreeshard to compare them because shade never really had to carry
Guess I said arguably for a reason...

Raymon and shade play on two very different teams so it's not really fair to compare them...

[quote=Kylo_ren][quote=glass][quote=Ombrack][quote=Kylo_ren]

I can guess it was the hardest time due to the fact that well Shade is arguably the best medic to play the game. [/quote]

Raymon strongly disagrees[/quote]
hard to compare them because shade never really had to carry[/quote]

Guess I said arguably for a reason...[/quote]
Raymon and shade play on two very different teams so it's not really fair to compare them...

#51

nuze

11 Frags – +

#50
You can compare people that play on different teams fairly, you just have to take a LOT into consideration and judge their performance based on the context of their team - aka how adequately they perform their role within said team. If you understand how each team plays (how they approach creating and capitalising on advantages etc) and the best methods for that class to help their team do that, you can rate people independently of their teams and even the era in which they played.

So much can change between teams in this game tho, so it's hard to compare players properly like this. I've been doing this for years and most of the time I say 'i could be wrong' because unless I've properly watched STVs and povs of the player and team, there will be a lot of missing context. I think 99% of the time there is a comparison between two players it lacks the context and depth to make it valid analysis (especially considering most players make judgements based on logs or fragvids).

Edit: and none of that is even taking into consideration things like calling and team morale etc so like ye tf2 is complicated

#50
You can compare people that play on different teams fairly, you just have to take a LOT into consideration and judge their performance based on the context of their team - aka how adequately they perform their role within said team. If you understand how each team plays (how they approach creating and capitalising on advantages etc) and the best methods for that class to help their team do that, you can rate people independently of their teams and even the era in which they played.

So much can change between teams in this game tho, so it's hard to compare players properly like this. I've been doing this for years and most of the time I say 'i could be wrong' because unless I've properly watched STVs and povs of the player and team, there will be a lot of missing context. I think 99% of the time there is a comparison between two players it lacks the context and depth to make it valid analysis (especially considering most players make judgements based on logs or fragvids).

Edit: and none of that is even taking into consideration things like calling and team morale etc so like ye tf2 is complicated

#52

Derfel

2 Frags – +

As much as I like Froyo, I wan't to see another NA team win.
Like evl, or another unexpected team would be really awesome.

#53

reako

-4 Frags – +

EoNRaymon and shade play on two very different teams so it's not really fair to compare them...

In cs, Niko was considered to be a top player despite being on mouseesports which was garbage, but you could still say that he was better than most players despite his teams performance. Individual performance can be judged without the contexts of teams.

[quote=EoN]
Raymon and shade play on two very different teams so it's not really fair to compare them...[/quote]
In cs, Niko was considered to be a top player despite being on mouseesports which was garbage, but you could still say that he was better than most players despite his teams performance. Individual performance can be judged without the contexts of teams.

#54

ampere

3 Frags – +

oh boy, finally a team capable of defeating froyo seems to be growing more and more everytime. I really hope they destroy them next season

#55

skeez

6 Frags – +

reakoEoNRaymon and shade play on two very different teams so it's not really fair to compare them...In cs, Niko was considered to be a top player despite being on mouseesports which was garbage, but you could still say that he was better than most players despite his teams performance. Individual performance can be judged without the contexts of teams.

did u just compare seven and mouse...

[quote=reako][quote=EoN]
Raymon and shade play on two very different teams so it's not really fair to compare them...[/quote]
In cs, Niko was considered to be a top player despite being on mouseesports which was garbage, but you could still say that he was better than most players despite his teams performance. Individual performance can be judged without the contexts of teams.[/quote]

did u just compare seven and mouse...

#56

nuttynutnut

0 Frags – +

ProSkeezreakoEoNRaymon and shade play on two very different teams so it's not really fair to compare them...In cs, Niko was considered to be a top player despite being on mouseesports which was garbage, but you could still say that he was better than most players despite his teams performance. Individual performance can be judged without the contexts of teams.
did u just compare seven and mouse...

same thing really

[quote=ProSkeez][quote=reako][quote=EoN]
Raymon and shade play on two very different teams so it's not really fair to compare them...[/quote]
In cs, Niko was considered to be a top player despite being on mouseesports which was garbage, but you could still say that he was better than most players despite his teams performance. Individual performance can be judged without the contexts of teams.[/quote]

did u just compare seven and mouse...[/quote]

same thing really