I hope the stv models put the lowpander logo on the players faces instead of sleeves
Funshttps://essentials.tf/img/teams/lowpander.png
Choo choo!
Choo choo!
because separating things in tf2 has gone so well in the past, why not try it with coverage of lan
Ieebecause separating things in tf2 has gone so well in the past, why not try it with coverage of lan
To be fair to essentials it isnt like tftv are covering the event and essentials are competing with them. TFTV staff seem to want to pretend it doesn't exist. They are being petty because they themselves are not producing it.
To be fair to essentials it isnt like tftv are covering the event and essentials are competing with them. TFTV staff seem to want to pretend it doesn't exist. They are being petty because they themselves are not producing it.
am I blind or is there no write-up on Weebtunnel Tactics?
edit: nvm I see the text but no banner?
edit: nvm I see the text but no banner?
Moist_PenguinIeebecause separating things in tf2 has gone so well in the past, why not try it with coverage of lan
To be fair to essentials it isnt like tftv are covering the event and essentials are competing with them. TFTV staff seem to want to pretend it doesn't exist. They are being petty because they themselves are not producing it.
tbh though half of the TFTV staff are working for Essentials.tf
To be fair to essentials it isnt like tftv are covering the event and essentials are competing with them. TFTV staff seem to want to pretend it doesn't exist. They are being petty because they themselves are not producing it.[/quote]
tbh though half of the TFTV staff are working for Essentials.tf
Moist_PenguinTo be fair to essentials it isnt like tftv are covering the event and essentials are competing with them. TFTV staff seem to want to pretend it doesn't exist. They are being petty because they themselves are not producing it.
Most of the people doing the production have in the past and will in the future continue to contribute to tftv, you're manufacturing drama where none exists. This time last year many things were confirmed weeks in advance so they were written about weeks in advance. That is not the case this year. There's not much else to say.
Most of the people doing the production have in the past and will in the future continue to contribute to tftv, you're manufacturing drama where none exists. This time last year many things were confirmed weeks in advance so they were written about weeks in advance. That is not the case this year. There's not much else to say.
GentlemanJonMost of the people doing the production have in the past and will in the future continue to contribute to tftv, you're manufacturing drama where none exists. This time last year many things were confirmed weeks in advance so they were written about weeks in advance. That is not the case this year. There's not much else to say.
Precisely.
Very hard for the TFTV writing team to write anything when they havent been privy to relevant information worth writing about far enough in advance that they could write something at all.
Most of the people doing the production have in the past and will in the future continue to contribute to tftv, you're manufacturing drama where none exists. This time last year many things were confirmed weeks in advance so they were written about weeks in advance. That is not the case this year. There's not much else to say.[/quote]
Precisely.
Very hard for the TFTV writing team to write anything when they havent been privy to relevant information worth writing about far enough in advance that they could write something at all.
I understand why there isn't a news posting based on not having enough information yet, but why is there no placeholder in the Upcoming Events? You know the date, you know the time, and you know the stream. If details change then just update it.
You have an ESEA open final scheduled in 5 days in there, so clearly someone's taking the piss.
You have an ESEA open final scheduled in 5 days in there, so clearly someone's taking the piss.
RussianGuyovich...so clearly someone's taking the piss.
Why are you assuming malice?
Why are you assuming malice?
So it takes multiple weeks to type 500 words on an announcement for i61? Sorry but that just sounds like so much bullshit. Theres been loads of time for this, all the teams apart from se7en have been confirmed for ages as well. Even se7en confirmed their attendance over a week ago, more than ample time to type some announcement up. Your writers are lazy/cant be fucked.
RussianGuyovichI understand why there isn't a news posting based on not having enough information yet, but why is there no placeholder in the Upcoming Events? You know the date, you know the time, and you know the stream. If details change then just update it.
You have an ESEA open final scheduled in 5 days in there, so clearly someone's taking the piss.
This, it's not going to kill anyone to have a very brief write up to say, this event is happening on this stream...
It's very disappointing that there's no initiative being used.
You have an ESEA open final scheduled in 5 days in there, so clearly someone's taking the piss.[/quote]
This, it's not going to kill anyone to have a very brief write up to say, this event is happening on this stream...
It's very disappointing that there's no initiative being used.
T0mYour writers are lazy/cant be fucked.
Are you under the impression that I represent tftv in some way?
Are you under the impression that I represent tftv in some way?
WARHURYEAHThis, it's not going to kill anyone to have a very brief write up to say, this event is happening on this stream...
It's very disappointing that there's no initiative being used.
It's certainly inconsistent with the listing of an ESEA event, I wouldn't put it down to a deliberate conspiracy though. Presumably different people have different responsibilities.
It's very disappointing that there's no initiative being used.[/quote]
It's certainly inconsistent with the listing of an ESEA event, I wouldn't put it down to a deliberate conspiracy though. Presumably different people have different responsibilities.
T0mEverything I said was directed at tftv?
That's not a question
That's not a question
So the writers are so busy that it took them a week to write the ozfortress news post. For the LAN post, TFTV may not have the inside info that they might have had previously. But the groups were published last sunday, the last spot in the invite groups was decided on tuesday.
If this home of competitive tf2 cant produce a news post in 48 hours then you need more news writers. I work with etf2l, I know that volunteer run websites can be chaotic and slow to get things done. That 48 hours is based of essentials twitter account, Id assume as an established website and the close nit nature of the scene TFTV staff will have known the 7 teams in the invite group for a lot longer. See Toms comment.
This is one of the highlights of competitive tf2 for this year people will forgive if a news post on an Invite/Prem roster move is late or not covered. If you do not cover one of the two "big" lans this scene has then you are 100% failing as your role as a news website and "the home of competitive tf2".
If tftv wants to stay as an actual news site and not just memes then they need to make news or people will go to other sites such as essentials, else they will just be the home of shit tf2 memes.
This is directed at tftv staff not Jon.
If this home of competitive tf2 cant produce a news post in 48 hours then you need more news writers. I work with etf2l, I know that volunteer run websites can be chaotic and slow to get things done. That 48 hours is based of essentials twitter account, Id assume as an established website and the close nit nature of the scene TFTV staff will have known the 7 teams in the invite group for a lot longer. See Toms comment.
This is one of the highlights of competitive tf2 for this year people will forgive if a news post on an Invite/Prem roster move is late or not covered. If you do not cover one of the two "big" lans this scene has then you are 100% failing as your role as a news website and "the home of competitive tf2".
If tftv wants to stay as an actual news site and not just memes then they need to make news or people will go to other sites such as essentials, else they will just be the home of shit tf2 memes.
This is directed at tftv staff not Jon.
They forgot to mention uubers in the write-up, because he was dominating in the season on a shit setup and now you'll be able to see him perform on a decent setup at lan.
AdebisiThe question was implicit
To Tom's original question the answer is that there was an announcement here http://www.teamfortress.tv/41935/i61-announced. That obviously hasn't taken weeks to write because it was written weeks ago.
Afaik final information was only confirmed a couple of days ago (format, detailed schedule, etc), and that's because Multiplay only confirmed it very recently as well. Also afaik tftv has always waited for official confirmation to put articles together, and doesn't write them every time a team confirms attendance to a lan. I might be wrong, you can check back and look but I haven't seen any when I just did. It's mostly roster moves, event announcements, etc. There weren't any for i58 until the viewer's guide which tftv obviously covered.
The i58 viewer's guide included schedule and all that stuff, so presumably that's what's being produced now wouldn't you say? Given that articles announcing attendance aren't normally considered worth writing. If nothing appears at all then that's obviously a failure in coverage, but if you're disagreeing with the editorial approach that doesn't equal fucking lazy to me.
To Tom's original question the answer is that there was an announcement here http://www.teamfortress.tv/41935/i61-announced. That obviously hasn't taken weeks to write because it was written weeks ago.
Afaik final information was only confirmed a couple of days ago (format, detailed schedule, etc), and that's because Multiplay only confirmed it very recently as well. Also afaik tftv has always waited for official confirmation to put articles together, and doesn't write them every time a team confirms attendance to a lan. I might be wrong, you can check back and look but I haven't seen any when I just did. It's mostly roster moves, event announcements, etc. There weren't any for i58 until the viewer's guide which tftv obviously covered.
The i58 viewer's guide included schedule and all that stuff, so presumably that's what's being produced now wouldn't you say? Given that articles announcing attendance aren't normally considered worth writing. If nothing appears at all then that's obviously a failure in coverage, but if you're disagreeing with the editorial approach that doesn't equal fucking lazy to me.
Moist_PenguinSo the writers are so busy that it took them a week to write the ozfortress news post.
Look I get the vibe of what's going on here, but don't chuck all the blame onto tftv, we (ozfortress) were lax on getting the info over to their writers just for some clarification.
Look I get the vibe of what's going on here, but don't chuck all the blame onto tftv, we (ozfortress) were lax on getting the info over to their writers just for some clarification.
Moist_PenguinIf this home of competitive tf2 cant produce a news post in 48 hours then you need more news writers. I work with etf2l, I know that volunteer run websites can be chaotic and slow to get things done. That 48 hours is based of essentials twitter account, Id assume as an established website and the close nit nature of the scene TFTV staff will have known the 7 teams in the invite group for a lot longer. See Toms comment.
The viewer's guide typically includes more than just the teams though, this is for i58
http://www.teamfortress.tv/35587/insomnia58-viewers-guide
Again there were no hype articles speculating or confirming attendance that I have seen before that, it seems like the approach overall is consistent. The time between this information being available, a few days ago, and now may be long enough that you think it should have been written and published. Only you can make that judgement but the suggestions of conspiracy, malice and even a little abuse in this thread seem misplaced to me.
The viewer's guide typically includes more than just the teams though, this is for i58
http://www.teamfortress.tv/35587/insomnia58-viewers-guide
Again there were no hype articles speculating or confirming attendance that I have seen before that, it seems like the approach overall is consistent. The time between this information being available, a few days ago, and now may be long enough that you think it should have been written and published. Only you can make that judgement but the suggestions of conspiracy, malice and even a little abuse in this thread seem misplaced to me.
FozzlmMoist_PenguinSo the writers are so busy that it took them a week to write the ozfortress news post.
Look I get the vibe of what's going on here, but don't chuck all the blame onto tftv, we (ozfortress) were lax on getting the info over to their writers just for some clarification.
Look at what giving your announcement article visibility for a day is doing as well. Fucking Aussies
Look I get the vibe of what's going on here, but don't chuck all the blame onto tftv, we (ozfortress) were lax on getting the info over to their writers just for some clarification.[/quote]
Look at what giving your announcement article visibility for a day is doing as well. Fucking Aussies
GentlemanJonAdebisiThe question was implicitTo Tom's original question the answer is that there was an announcement here http://www.teamfortress.tv/41935/i61-announced. That obviously hasn't taken weeks to write because it was written weeks ago.
Afaik final information was only confirmed a couple of days ago (format, detailed schedule, etc), and that's because Multiplay only confirmed it very recently as well. Also afaik tftv has always waited for official confirmation to put articles together, and doesn't write them every time a team confirms attendance to a lan. I might be wrong, you can check back and look but I haven't seen any when I just did. It's mostly roster moves, event announcements, etc. There weren't any for i58 until the viewer's guide which tftv obviously covered.
The i58 viewer's guide included schedule and all that stuff, so presumably that's what's being produced now wouldn't you say? Given that articles announcing attendance aren't normally considered worth writing. If nothing appears at all then that's obviously a failure in coverage, but if you're disagreeing with the editorial approach that doesn't equal fucking lazy to me.
Solid response
Kudos
To Tom's original question the answer is that there was an announcement here http://www.teamfortress.tv/41935/i61-announced. That obviously hasn't taken weeks to write because it was written weeks ago.
Afaik final information was only confirmed a couple of days ago (format, detailed schedule, etc), and that's because Multiplay only confirmed it very recently as well. Also afaik tftv has always waited for official confirmation to put articles together, and doesn't write them every time a team confirms attendance to a lan. I might be wrong, you can check back and look but I haven't seen any when I just did. It's mostly roster moves, event announcements, etc. There weren't any for i58 until the viewer's guide which tftv obviously covered.
The i58 viewer's guide included schedule and all that stuff, so presumably that's what's being produced now wouldn't you say? Given that articles announcing attendance aren't normally considered worth writing. If nothing appears at all then that's obviously a failure in coverage, but if you're disagreeing with the editorial approach that doesn't equal fucking lazy to me.[/quote]
Solid response
Kudos
Heck I would have written the news post if there were that little people to do it
Viewers guide is incomming im pretty sure heny mentioned it was still being written a few days back
Moist_PenguinIeebecause separating things in tf2 has gone so well in the past, why not try it with coverage of lan
To be fair to essentials it isnt like tftv are covering the event and essentials are competing with them. TFTV staff seem to want to pretend it doesn't exist. They are being petty because they themselves are not producing it.
Completely wrong plz try not to guess what's happening or what went wrong
No-one in tftv who wants to help with the lan has been denied to help
To be fair to essentials it isnt like tftv are covering the event and essentials are competing with them. TFTV staff seem to want to pretend it doesn't exist. They are being petty because they themselves are not producing it.[/quote]
Completely wrong plz try not to guess what's happening or what went wrong
No-one in tftv who wants to help with the lan has been denied to help