horrible news. the shooter is fucking pathetic and a twisted, sick person.
i hope for a speedy recovery for anybody affected
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horrible news. the shooter is fucking pathetic and a twisted, sick person.
i hope for a speedy recovery for anybody affected
i hope for a speedy recovery for anybody affected
GoaskAliceReeroPub"Man, if only those people in the crowd had guns on them, they could have shot up at the guy 32 floors above in the middle of the night and ended all of this."Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. (not that it would've helped). The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.
Nah I'm not having that fuck people like you seriously fuck you times a million - unfortunately the state of America allows people to carry ridiculous weapons with some states having no limit on ammunition carried - as if his vantage point would have been undermined if someone in the crowd was permitted to carry fire arms is what you mean to say
Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. (not that it would've helped). The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.
I was just responding to someone else's sarcasm with my own sarcasm
[quote=GoaskAlice][quote=Reero][quote=Pub]"Man, if only those people in the crowd had guns on them, they could have shot up at the guy 32 floors above in the middle of the night and ended all of this."
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Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. (not that it would've helped). The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.[/quote]
Nah I'm not having that fuck people like you seriously fuck you times a million - unfortunately the state of America allows people to carry ridiculous weapons with some states having no limit on ammunition carried - as if his vantage point would have been undermined if someone in the crowd was permitted to carry fire arms is what you mean to say[/quote]
Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. [b](not that it would've helped)[/b][u][/u]. The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.
I was just responding to someone else's sarcasm with my own sarcasm
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Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. (not that it would've helped). The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.[/quote]
Nah I'm not having that fuck people like you seriously fuck you times a million - unfortunately the state of America allows people to carry ridiculous weapons with some states having no limit on ammunition carried - as if his vantage point would have been undermined if someone in the crowd was permitted to carry fire arms is what you mean to say[/quote]
Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. [b](not that it would've helped)[/b][u][/u]. The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.
I was just responding to someone else's sarcasm with my own sarcasm
I don't think mentally healthy people kill other people. Maybe it wasn't detectable, or was overlooked, but nothing on this planet can convince me that premeditated mass murder can be the product of a healthy mind.
I don't think mentally healthy people kill other people. Maybe it wasn't detectable, or was overlooked, but nothing on this planet can convince me that premeditated mass murder can be the product of a healthy mind.
ReeroGoaskAliceReeroPub"Man, if only those people in the crowd had guns on them, they could have shot up at the guy 32 floors above in the middle of the night and ended all of this."Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. (not that it would've helped). The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.
Nah I'm not having that fuck people like you seriously fuck you times a million - unfortunately the state of America allows people to carry ridiculous weapons with some states having no limit on ammunition carried - as if his vantage point would have been undermined if someone in the crowd was permitted to carry fire arms is what you mean to say
Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. (not that it would've helped). The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.
I was just responding to someone else's sarcasm with my own sarcasm
"We actually have members of our crew with [concealed handgun licenses], and legal firearms on the bus. They were useless," he wrote. "We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group [or one man] laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of firepower."
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/country-music-guitarist-vegas-shooting-survivor-reversed-gun/story?id=50240355
[quote=Reero][quote=GoaskAlice][quote=Reero][quote=Pub]"Man, if only those people in the crowd had guns on them, they could have shot up at the guy 32 floors above in the middle of the night and ended all of this."
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Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. (not that it would've helped). The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.[/quote]
Nah I'm not having that fuck people like you seriously fuck you times a million - unfortunately the state of America allows people to carry ridiculous weapons with some states having no limit on ammunition carried - as if his vantage point would have been undermined if someone in the crowd was permitted to carry fire arms is what you mean to say[/quote]
Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. [b](not that it would've helped)[/b][u][/u]. The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.
I was just responding to someone else's sarcasm with my own sarcasm[/quote]
"We actually have members of our crew with [concealed handgun licenses], and legal firearms on the bus. They were useless," he wrote. "We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group [or one man] laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of firepower."
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/country-music-guitarist-vegas-shooting-survivor-reversed-gun/story?id=50240355
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Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. (not that it would've helped). The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.[/quote]
Nah I'm not having that fuck people like you seriously fuck you times a million - unfortunately the state of America allows people to carry ridiculous weapons with some states having no limit on ammunition carried - as if his vantage point would have been undermined if someone in the crowd was permitted to carry fire arms is what you mean to say[/quote]
Unfortunately the venue for the concert had a no-firearm policy, so they couldn't use guns. [b](not that it would've helped)[/b][u][/u]. The guy went into the 32nd story of a hotel and essentially shot fish in a barrel because the hotel overlooking hundreds of people had no security.
I was just responding to someone else's sarcasm with my own sarcasm[/quote]
"We actually have members of our crew with [concealed handgun licenses], and legal firearms on the bus. They were useless," he wrote. "We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group [or one man] laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of firepower."
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/country-music-guitarist-vegas-shooting-survivor-reversed-gun/story?id=50240355
There needs to be a distinction between mass shootings and common shootings. Yes, stricter gun control will curb common shootings but for Stephen Paddock and friends, it's not going to do anything and the fix for these mass shootings lies elswhere.
There needs to be a distinction between mass shootings and common shootings. Yes, stricter gun control will curb common shootings but for Stephen Paddock and friends, it's not going to do anything and the fix for these mass shootings lies elswhere.
hooliThere needs to be a distinction between mass shootings and common shootings. Yes, stricter gun control will curb common shootings but for Stephen Paddock and friends, it's not going to do anything and the fix for these mass shootings lies elswhere.
The current loose definition of "Mass Shooting" is 4 or more dead. Nobody has really 100% defined it just yet.
Do some research, most mass shootings are done by handguns not the guns used by this Las Vegas asshole. How will gun control make "common" 1 person shootings happen less?
I can tell you that no handgun legislation will be seen in our lifetime. The only reason ppl cling to gun control in a lot of cases is by using words like "Machine Gun" and Assault Rifle" when they don't apply to the weapon in question at all but damn those uneducated words sound good on the local news segment to push an agenda.
[quote=hooli]There needs to be a distinction between mass shootings and common shootings. Yes, stricter gun control will curb common shootings but for Stephen Paddock and friends, it's not going to do anything and the fix for these mass shootings lies elswhere.[/quote]
The current loose definition of "Mass Shooting" is 4 or more dead. Nobody has really 100% defined it just yet.
Do some research, most mass shootings are done by handguns not the guns used by this Las Vegas asshole. How will gun control make "common" 1 person shootings happen less?
I can tell you that no handgun legislation will be seen in our lifetime. The only reason ppl cling to gun control in a lot of cases is by using words like "Machine Gun" and Assault Rifle" when they don't apply to the weapon in question at all but damn those uneducated words sound good on the local news segment to push an agenda.
The current loose definition of "Mass Shooting" is 4 or more dead. Nobody has really 100% defined it just yet.
Do some research, most mass shootings are done by handguns not the guns used by this Las Vegas asshole. How will gun control make "common" 1 person shootings happen less?
I can tell you that no handgun legislation will be seen in our lifetime. The only reason ppl cling to gun control in a lot of cases is by using words like "Machine Gun" and Assault Rifle" when they don't apply to the weapon in question at all but damn those uneducated words sound good on the local news segment to push an agenda.
DarkNecridit highlights how foolish that argument is as strong gun control laws *very objectively* curb gun related homicide & suicide on a significant scale considering other countries with stronger gun control laws have nowhere near this level of problem .
I did some research and have a few counter arguments.
Regarding Australia - while you are right in saying there was a drop in gun related homicides. The rate of non-gun homicides, typically homocides involving sharp instruments, was not impacted and remained steady. People just found more creative ways to kill others.
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Regarding suicide - while you are right when you say guns are involved in most US suicides it's incorrect to say gun accessibility is the result of these suicides. Suicidal people will find ways to do it. If not by gun, then by hanging/pesticides/other creative ways. South Korea, where hand guns are banned, has 19.3% more suicides, per 100k people, than the United State.
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[quote=DarkNecrid]it highlights how foolish that argument is as strong gun control laws *very objectively* curb gun related homicide & suicide on a significant scale considering other countries with stronger gun control laws have nowhere near this level of problem .[/quote]
I did some research and have a few counter arguments.
Regarding Australia - while you are right in saying there was a drop in gun related homicides. The rate of non-gun homicides, typically homocides involving sharp instruments, was not impacted and remained steady. People just found more creative ways to kill others.
[url=http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/publications/mr/mr01/mr01.pdf#page=35]source[/url]
Regarding suicide - while you are right when you say guns are involved in most US suicides it's incorrect to say gun accessibility is the result of these suicides. Suicidal people will find ways to do it. If not by gun, then by hanging/pesticides/other creative ways. South Korea, where hand guns are banned, has 19.3% more suicides, per 100k people, than the United State.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate]source[/url]
I did some research and have a few counter arguments.
Regarding Australia - while you are right in saying there was a drop in gun related homicides. The rate of non-gun homicides, typically homocides involving sharp instruments, was not impacted and remained steady. People just found more creative ways to kill others.
[url=http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/publications/mr/mr01/mr01.pdf#page=35]source[/url]
Regarding suicide - while you are right when you say guns are involved in most US suicides it's incorrect to say gun accessibility is the result of these suicides. Suicidal people will find ways to do it. If not by gun, then by hanging/pesticides/other creative ways. South Korea, where hand guns are banned, has 19.3% more suicides, per 100k people, than the United State.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate]source[/url]
hooliRegarding Australia - while you are right in saying there was a drop in gun related homicides. The rate of non-gun homicides, typically homocides involving sharp instruments, was not impacted and remained steady. People just found more creative ways to kill others.
source
Doesn't this mean that homicides were lower as a result? If people just swapped from guns to pointy shit you should see a spike in those types of homicides, not a non impact.
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Regarding Australia - while you are right in saying there was a drop in gun related homicides. The rate of non-gun homicides, typically homocides involving sharp instruments, was not impacted and remained steady. People just found more creative ways to kill others.
[url=http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/publications/mr/mr01/mr01.pdf#page=35]source[/url]
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Doesn't this mean that homicides were lower as a result? If people just swapped from guns to pointy shit you should see a spike in those types of homicides, not a non impact.
Regarding Australia - while you are right in saying there was a drop in gun related homicides. The rate of non-gun homicides, typically homocides involving sharp instruments, was not impacted and remained steady. People just found more creative ways to kill others.
[url=http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/publications/mr/mr01/mr01.pdf#page=35]source[/url]
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Doesn't this mean that homicides were lower as a result? If people just swapped from guns to pointy shit you should see a spike in those types of homicides, not a non impact.
The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of bullet trajectories most of the rounds will go over a typical victim's head. There's also the shooter's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Elliot Rodger's YouTube videos, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the suspect, to realize that he's not just funny- he is saying something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike mass shootings truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the shooter's existencial catchphrase "GOODNIGHT LAS VEGAS," which itself is a cryptic reference to The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as the shooter's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a YOU CANT DODGE THE RODGE tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of bullet trajectories most of the rounds will go over a typical victim's head. There's also the shooter's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Elliot Rodger's YouTube videos, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the suspect, to realize that he's not just funny- he is saying something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike mass shootings truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the shooter's existencial catchphrase "GOODNIGHT LAS VEGAS," which itself is a cryptic reference to The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as the shooter's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a YOU CANT DODGE THE RODGE tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
Here's a spreadsheet of every mass shooting in the US since 1982 with descriptions, shooter info, weapon details, etc.. If you want to prove/disprove points about handgun vs. rifle use look here.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/
Here's a spreadsheet of every mass shooting in the US since 1982 with descriptions, shooter info, weapon details, etc.. If you want to prove/disprove points about handgun vs. rifle use look here.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/
Tino_Doesn't this mean that homicides were lower as a result? If people just swapped from guns to pointy shit you should see a spike in those types of homicides, not a non impact.
Homicides were not reduced until 2002 which is 7 years after the new regulations - http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html
[quote=Tino_]Doesn't this mean that homicides were lower as a result? If people just swapped from guns to pointy shit you should see a spike in those types of homicides, not a non impact.[/quote]
Homicides were not reduced until 2002 which is 7 years after the new regulations - http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html
Homicides were not reduced until 2002 which is 7 years after the new regulations - http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html
hoolitypically homocides involving sharp instruments, was not impacted and remained steady. People just found more creative ways to kill others.
idk its pretty hard to injure 600 people within seconds with a knife
[quote=hooli]typically homocides involving sharp instruments, was not impacted and remained steady. People just found more creative ways to kill others.
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idk its pretty hard to injure 600 people within seconds with a knife
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idk its pretty hard to injure 600 people within seconds with a knife
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