ibkfapswhere are my fellow Nigerians? We actually played decently and qualified!
Who are your top lads right now ?
Wish okocha still played
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[quote=ibkfaps]where are my fellow Nigerians? We actually played decently and qualified![/quote]
Who are your top lads right now ?
Wish okocha still played
Who are your top lads right now ?
Wish okocha still played
SpaceCadetHildrethSpaceCadetIt also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.
Must be even more difficult considering your most recent World Cup performances. There is an English commentator who has the perfect voice and knowledge for the really big international matches that get shown on TV. I forget his name but he has been around forever and it always the go-to guy for any big matchup. Any chance you know who I am talking about?
Sounds like Martin Tyler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTM8-p4o8Ig
[quote=SpaceCadet][quote=Hildreth][quote=SpaceCadet]It also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".[/quote]
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.[/quote]
Must be even more difficult considering your most recent World Cup performances. There is an English commentator who has the perfect voice and knowledge for the really big international matches that get shown on TV. I forget his name but he has been around forever and it always the go-to guy for any big matchup. Any chance you know who I am talking about?
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Sounds like Martin Tyler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTM8-p4o8Ig
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".[/quote]
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.[/quote]
Must be even more difficult considering your most recent World Cup performances. There is an English commentator who has the perfect voice and knowledge for the really big international matches that get shown on TV. I forget his name but he has been around forever and it always the go-to guy for any big matchup. Any chance you know who I am talking about?
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Sounds like Martin Tyler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTM8-p4o8Ig
Stylaxibkfapswhere are my fellow Nigerians? We actually played decently and qualified!Who are your top lads right now ?
Wish okocha still played
Same I miss Okocha.
Our standout lads would be Iwobi (Okocha is his uncle), Moses, Ighalo, Iheanacho. We also have Mikel and Martins for experience.
[quote=Stylax][quote=ibkfaps]where are my fellow Nigerians? We actually played decently and qualified![/quote]
Who are your top lads right now ?
Wish okocha still played[/quote]
Same I miss Okocha.
Our standout lads would be Iwobi (Okocha is his uncle), Moses, Ighalo, Iheanacho. We also have Mikel and Martins for experience.
Who are your top lads right now ?
Wish okocha still played[/quote]
Same I miss Okocha.
Our standout lads would be Iwobi (Okocha is his uncle), Moses, Ighalo, Iheanacho. We also have Mikel and Martins for experience.
Cleepopledot_american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.
Yeah I agree, I play academy soccer and its very expensive going to different states for games and such. Thankfully I'm in a position where the money isn't really an issue but I definitely do know some people who could make it if it wasn't for such a shitty system and the costs
As someone who's also been a part of this system, I absolutely agree with this, although I would argue that the issue is one of tactics as well.
In my experience, strategy for too many american soccer teams [edit: youth teams, not pro ones], even at the traveling club level, doesn't go much further than "boot the ball downfield over and over and hope your forward has the speed to beat the defender enough times to win the game." In true American fashion, all the skill, intelligence, and subtlety that the game can provide is effectively thrown away in favor of a competition to see who can run the fastest for the longest amount of time.
[quote=Cleepople][quote=dot_]
american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.[/quote]
Yeah I agree, I play academy soccer and its very expensive going to different states for games and such. Thankfully I'm in a position where the money isn't really an issue but I definitely do know some people who could make it if it wasn't for such a shitty system and the costs[/quote]
As someone who's also been a part of this system, I absolutely agree with this, although I would argue that the issue is one of tactics as well.
In my experience, strategy for too many american soccer teams [edit: youth teams, not pro ones], even at the traveling club level, doesn't go much further than "boot the ball downfield over and over and hope your forward has the speed to beat the defender enough times to win the game." In true American fashion, all the skill, intelligence, and subtlety that the game can provide is effectively thrown away in favor of a competition to see who can run the fastest for the longest amount of time.
american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.[/quote]
Yeah I agree, I play academy soccer and its very expensive going to different states for games and such. Thankfully I'm in a position where the money isn't really an issue but I definitely do know some people who could make it if it wasn't for such a shitty system and the costs[/quote]
As someone who's also been a part of this system, I absolutely agree with this, although I would argue that the issue is one of tactics as well.
In my experience, strategy for too many american soccer teams [edit: youth teams, not pro ones], even at the traveling club level, doesn't go much further than "boot the ball downfield over and over and hope your forward has the speed to beat the defender enough times to win the game." In true American fashion, all the skill, intelligence, and subtlety that the game can provide is effectively thrown away in favor of a competition to see who can run the fastest for the longest amount of time.
Hey USA, thank you for giving us the day off. Better luck next time :)
Hey USA, thank you for giving us the day off. Better luck next time :)
All_Over_RSwho is surprised lmao usa sucks at soccer
considering what needed to happen for them to be eliminated, pretty much everyone was surprised.
[quote=All_Over_RS]who is surprised lmao usa sucks at soccer[/quote]
considering what needed to happen for them to be eliminated, pretty much everyone was surprised.
considering what needed to happen for them to be eliminated, pretty much everyone was surprised.
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