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SentinelShow ContentThe movie goes out of its way to explain why he did that tho so I dunno why you dislike it. Doctor Strange saw basically every possible future outcome thanks to the Time Stone combined with his magic, and knows the only possible outcome that actually wins the fight for them or has a chance. His actions after that moment have everything to do with the 1 outcome he saw, i.e. he knows the only way the Avengers eventually win is with Tony alive and with Thanos having the gems, as if they actually tried to keep the gems away from him, Thanos would just kill everyone on Earth until he got them all as he doesn't care about just Earth but balancing the entire universe - the only way they have a chance is to give him the stones and fight back later. Strange's dust lines tie into this being his reason for the decision as well.
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Plot twise since Strange already saw every future, he already saw one where he attempted that and for whatever reason it fails. In universe it makes sense at least.
My dislikes of the films setup are:
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* I didn't like the 4 year time skip since GOTG2, they really should have had a GOTG3 closer to IW in timeline before this because it makes Peter-Gamora's relationship feel silly. Last we saw of them in GOTG2 it was just starting, now it's 4 years later and she's fanatically in love with Peter and their team had probably saved HUNDREDS of galaxies. It feels really disjointed for such a big part of the emotional beats of the film tbh.
* I didn't like that they didn't show Thanos taking the Power Stone from Xandar and the film just starts after he already has it - this might seem minor but it's like catching Thanos in media res of his journey, and even if it was an extra 5-10 minutes I think it would have been cool to see him gathering all 6 rather than just already having one of them. The opening of the film would have been even stronger IMO if it opened up to Thanos defeating the Xandar mooks for the Power Stone and Thor and his group come flying in to help them out. Audience gets hyped because the heroes are coming to save the day, boom destroyed in the same way basically. [/quote]
* I didn't like that they didn't show Thanos taking the Power Stone from Xandar and the film just starts after he already has it - this might seem minor but it's like catching Thanos in media res of his journey, and even if it was an extra 5-10 minutes I think it would have been cool to see him gathering all 6 rather than just already having one of them. The opening of the film would have been even stronger IMO if it opened up to Thanos defeating the Xandar mooks for the Power Stone and Thor and his group come flying in to help them out. Audience gets hyped because the heroes are coming to save the day, boom destroyed in the same way basically. [/quote]
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[spoiler]The movie goes out of its way to explain why he did that tho so I dunno why you dislike it. Doctor Strange saw basically every possible future outcome thanks to the Time Stone combined with his magic, and knows the only possible outcome that actually wins the fight for them or has a chance. His actions after that moment have everything to do with the 1 outcome he saw, i.e. he knows the only way the Avengers eventually win is with Tony alive and with Thanos having the gems, as if they actually tried to keep the gems away from him, Thanos would just kill everyone on Earth until he got them all as he doesn't care about just Earth but balancing the entire universe - the only way they have a chance is to give him the stones and fight back later. Strange's dust lines tie into this being his reason for the decision as well.[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]Plot twise since Strange already saw every future, he already saw one where he attempted that and for whatever reason it fails. In universe it makes sense at least.[/spoiler]
My dislikes of the films setup are:
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* I didn't like the 4 year time skip since GOTG2, they really should have had a GOTG3 closer to IW in timeline before this because it makes Peter-Gamora's relationship feel silly. Last we saw of them in GOTG2 it was just starting, now it's 4 years later and she's fanatically in love with Peter and their team had probably saved HUNDREDS of galaxies. It feels really disjointed for such a big part of the emotional beats of the film tbh.
* I didn't like that they didn't show Thanos taking the Power Stone from Xandar and the film just starts after he already has it - this might seem minor but it's like catching Thanos in media res of his journey, and even if it was an extra 5-10 minutes I think it would have been cool to see him gathering all 6 rather than just already having one of them. The opening of the film would have been even stronger IMO if it opened up to Thanos defeating the Xandar mooks for the Power Stone and Thor and his group come flying in to help them out. Audience gets hyped because the heroes are coming to save the day, boom destroyed in the same way basically. [/quote]
[spoiler]The movie goes out of its way to explain why he did that tho so I dunno why you dislike it. Doctor Strange saw basically every possible future outcome thanks to the Time Stone combined with his magic, and knows the only possible outcome that actually wins the fight for them or has a chance. His actions after that moment have everything to do with the 1 outcome he saw, i.e. he knows the only way the Avengers eventually win is with Tony alive and with Thanos having the gems, as if they actually tried to keep the gems away from him, Thanos would just kill everyone on Earth until he got them all as he doesn't care about just Earth but balancing the entire universe - the only way they have a chance is to give him the stones and fight back later. Strange's dust lines tie into this being his reason for the decision as well.[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]Plot twise since Strange already saw every future, he already saw one where he attempted that and for whatever reason it fails. In universe it makes sense at least.[/spoiler]
My dislikes of the films setup are:
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* I didn't like the 4 year time skip since GOTG2, they really should have had a GOTG3 closer to IW in timeline before this because it makes Peter-Gamora's relationship feel silly. Last we saw of them in GOTG2 it was just starting, now it's 4 years later and she's fanatically in love with Peter and their team had probably saved HUNDREDS of galaxies. It feels really disjointed for such a big part of the emotional beats of the film tbh.
* I didn't like that they didn't show Thanos taking the Power Stone from Xandar and the film just starts after he already has it - this might seem minor but it's like catching Thanos in media res of his journey, and even if it was an extra 5-10 minutes I think it would have been cool to see him gathering all 6 rather than just already having one of them. The opening of the film would have been even stronger IMO if it opened up to Thanos defeating the Xandar mooks for the Power Stone and Thor and his group come flying in to help them out. Audience gets hyped because the heroes are coming to save the day, boom destroyed in the same way basically. [/quote]
SentinelDarkNecridSentinelShow Content-Dr strange giving up the time stone to save 1 life, thereby dooming 50% of the universeShow ContentThe movie goes out of its way to explain why he did that tho so I dunno why you dislike it. Doctor Strange saw basically every possible future outcome thanks to the Time Stone combined with his magic, and knows the only possible outcome that actually wins the fight for them or has a chance. His actions after that moment have everything to do with the 1 outcome he saw, i.e. he knows the only way the Avengers eventually win is with Tony alive and with Thanos having the gems, as if they actually tried to keep the gems away from him, Thanos would just kill everyone on Earth until he got them all as he doesn't care about just Earth but balancing the entire universe - the only way they have a chance is to give him the stones and fight back later. Strange's dust lines tie into this being his reason for the decision as well.Show ContentThe only reason thanos got the mind stone is because he used the time stone to reconstruct it. If strange just bailed with the sling ring, thanos would have failed. Strange could have ported to earth and had scarlet witch destroy the time stone, ending the whole saga.
Also, thanos' plan is dumb altogether, destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately at a random point in time is meaningless since populations grow so they would go back to their old numbers in a few generations. We can also see that the gauntlet gets pretty much destroyed in the process and he crippled the only blacksmith that could make it, so he can't exactly repeat the process every once in a while. Not to mention that destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately means you kill 1/2 of the population even on planets that have absolutely no issue with overpopulation and even planets with dwindling populations.
But ya now we're getting into extreme nitpick territory, at the end of the day it's just a movie
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I thought Scarlet Witch would only be able to destroy the Mind stone and not any other ones, as her powers were derived from it. Vision at the start says that something of the same structure or frequency etc cant remember the actual quote can destroy it. Shed likely be ineffective against the time stone.
[quote=Sentinel][quote=DarkNecrid][quote=Sentinel]
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-Dr strange giving up the time stone to save 1 life, thereby dooming 50% of the universe
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[spoiler]The movie goes out of its way to explain why he did that tho so I dunno why you dislike it. Doctor Strange saw basically every possible future outcome thanks to the Time Stone combined with his magic, and knows the only possible outcome that actually wins the fight for them or has a chance. His actions after that moment have everything to do with the 1 outcome he saw, i.e. he knows the only way the Avengers eventually win is with Tony alive and with Thanos having the gems, as if they actually tried to keep the gems away from him, Thanos would just kill everyone on Earth until he got them all as he doesn't care about just Earth but balancing the entire universe - the only way they have a chance is to give him the stones and fight back later. Strange's dust lines tie into this being his reason for the decision as well.[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]The only reason thanos got the mind stone is because he used the time stone to reconstruct it. If strange just bailed with the sling ring, thanos would have failed. Strange could have ported to earth and had scarlet witch destroy the time stone, ending the whole saga.
Also, thanos' plan is dumb altogether, destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately at a random point in time is meaningless since populations grow so they would go back to their old numbers in a few generations. We can also see that the gauntlet gets pretty much destroyed in the process and he crippled the only blacksmith that could make it, so he can't exactly repeat the process every once in a while. Not to mention that destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately means you kill 1/2 of the population even on planets that have absolutely no issue with overpopulation and even planets with dwindling populations.
But ya now we're getting into extreme nitpick territory, at the end of the day it's just a movie [/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]I thought Scarlet Witch would only be able to destroy the Mind stone and not any other ones, as her powers were derived from it. Vision at the start says that something of the same structure or frequency etc cant remember the actual quote can destroy it. Shed likely be ineffective against the time stone. [/spoiler]
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-Dr strange giving up the time stone to save 1 life, thereby dooming 50% of the universe
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[spoiler]The movie goes out of its way to explain why he did that tho so I dunno why you dislike it. Doctor Strange saw basically every possible future outcome thanks to the Time Stone combined with his magic, and knows the only possible outcome that actually wins the fight for them or has a chance. His actions after that moment have everything to do with the 1 outcome he saw, i.e. he knows the only way the Avengers eventually win is with Tony alive and with Thanos having the gems, as if they actually tried to keep the gems away from him, Thanos would just kill everyone on Earth until he got them all as he doesn't care about just Earth but balancing the entire universe - the only way they have a chance is to give him the stones and fight back later. Strange's dust lines tie into this being his reason for the decision as well.[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]The only reason thanos got the mind stone is because he used the time stone to reconstruct it. If strange just bailed with the sling ring, thanos would have failed. Strange could have ported to earth and had scarlet witch destroy the time stone, ending the whole saga.
Also, thanos' plan is dumb altogether, destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately at a random point in time is meaningless since populations grow so they would go back to their old numbers in a few generations. We can also see that the gauntlet gets pretty much destroyed in the process and he crippled the only blacksmith that could make it, so he can't exactly repeat the process every once in a while. Not to mention that destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately means you kill 1/2 of the population even on planets that have absolutely no issue with overpopulation and even planets with dwindling populations.
But ya now we're getting into extreme nitpick territory, at the end of the day it's just a movie [/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]I thought Scarlet Witch would only be able to destroy the Mind stone and not any other ones, as her powers were derived from it. Vision at the start says that something of the same structure or frequency etc cant remember the actual quote can destroy it. Shed likely be ineffective against the time stone. [/spoiler]
loleryy
Completely agree, was amazing from the opening credits until the end.
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Show ContentThe most probable ways i can think of is that the dead characters are within the soul stone, or they use Ant-Man and the Wasp to enter the quantum realm to go back in time and save them.
Also that Thanos vs Dr Strange fight was the best scene in any Marvel movie imo
Holyshit this is a very good theory, Thanks Dude.
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Since we did not see Hawkeye and Antman.
And some Marvel spokesperson said Clint was on a secret mission.
Could probably have him joining with Antman and Wasp.
And some Marvel spokesperson said Clint was on a secret mission.
Could probably have him joining with Antman and Wasp.
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Completely agree, was amazing from the opening credits until the end.
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[spoiler]The most probable ways i can think of is that the dead characters are within the soul stone, or they use Ant-Man and the Wasp to enter the quantum realm to go back in time and save them.
Also that Thanos vs Dr Strange fight was the best scene in any Marvel movie imo[/spoiler][/quote]
Holyshit this is a very good theory, Thanks Dude.
[spoiler]Since we did not see Hawkeye and Antman.
And some Marvel spokesperson said Clint was on a secret mission.
Could probably have him joining with Antman and Wasp.[/spoiler]
Completely agree, was amazing from the opening credits until the end.
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[spoiler]The most probable ways i can think of is that the dead characters are within the soul stone, or they use Ant-Man and the Wasp to enter the quantum realm to go back in time and save them.
Also that Thanos vs Dr Strange fight was the best scene in any Marvel movie imo[/spoiler][/quote]
Holyshit this is a very good theory, Thanks Dude.
[spoiler]Since we did not see Hawkeye and Antman.
And some Marvel spokesperson said Clint was on a secret mission.
Could probably have him joining with Antman and Wasp.[/spoiler]
SentinelDarkNecridSentinelShow Content-Dr strange giving up the time stone to save 1 life, thereby dooming 50% of the universeShow ContentThe movie goes out of its way to explain why he did that tho so I dunno why you dislike it. Doctor Strange saw basically every possible future outcome thanks to the Time Stone combined with his magic, and knows the only possible outcome that actually wins the fight for them or has a chance. His actions after that moment have everything to do with the 1 outcome he saw, i.e. he knows the only way the Avengers eventually win is with Tony alive and with Thanos having the gems, as if they actually tried to keep the gems away from him, Thanos would just kill everyone on Earth until he got them all as he doesn't care about just Earth but balancing the entire universe - the only way they have a chance is to give him the stones and fight back later. Strange's dust lines tie into this being his reason for the decision as well.Show ContentThe only reason thanos got the mind stone is because he used the time stone to reconstruct it. If strange just bailed with the sling ring, thanos would have failed. Strange could have ported to earth and had scarlet witch destroy the time stone, ending the whole saga.
Also, thanos' plan is dumb altogether, destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately at a random point in time is meaningless since populations grow so they would go back to their old numbers in a few generations. We can also see that the gauntlet gets pretty much destroyed in the process and he crippled the only blacksmith that could make it, so he can't exactly repeat the process every once in a while. Not to mention that destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately means you kill 1/2 of the population even on planets that have absolutely no issue with overpopulation and even planets with dwindling populations.
But ya now we're getting into extreme nitpick territory, at the end of the day it's just a movie
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they needed to stop thanos entirely, even with just 4 or 5 infinity stones he was the most powerful being in the universe, they didn't do a great job of showing that tho
[quote=Sentinel][quote=DarkNecrid][quote=Sentinel]
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-Dr strange giving up the time stone to save 1 life, thereby dooming 50% of the universe
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[spoiler]The movie goes out of its way to explain why he did that tho so I dunno why you dislike it. Doctor Strange saw basically every possible future outcome thanks to the Time Stone combined with his magic, and knows the only possible outcome that actually wins the fight for them or has a chance. His actions after that moment have everything to do with the 1 outcome he saw, i.e. he knows the only way the Avengers eventually win is with Tony alive and with Thanos having the gems, as if they actually tried to keep the gems away from him, Thanos would just kill everyone on Earth until he got them all as he doesn't care about just Earth but balancing the entire universe - the only way they have a chance is to give him the stones and fight back later. Strange's dust lines tie into this being his reason for the decision as well.[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]The only reason thanos got the mind stone is because he used the time stone to reconstruct it. If strange just bailed with the sling ring, thanos would have failed. Strange could have ported to earth and had scarlet witch destroy the time stone, ending the whole saga.
Also, thanos' plan is dumb altogether, destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately at a random point in time is meaningless since populations grow so they would go back to their old numbers in a few generations. We can also see that the gauntlet gets pretty much destroyed in the process and he crippled the only blacksmith that could make it, so he can't exactly repeat the process every once in a while. Not to mention that destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately means you kill 1/2 of the population even on planets that have absolutely no issue with overpopulation and even planets with dwindling populations.
But ya now we're getting into extreme nitpick territory, at the end of the day it's just a movie [/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]they needed to stop thanos entirely, even with just 4 or 5 infinity stones he was the most powerful being in the universe, they didn't do a great job of showing that tho[/spoiler]
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-Dr strange giving up the time stone to save 1 life, thereby dooming 50% of the universe
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[spoiler]The movie goes out of its way to explain why he did that tho so I dunno why you dislike it. Doctor Strange saw basically every possible future outcome thanks to the Time Stone combined with his magic, and knows the only possible outcome that actually wins the fight for them or has a chance. His actions after that moment have everything to do with the 1 outcome he saw, i.e. he knows the only way the Avengers eventually win is with Tony alive and with Thanos having the gems, as if they actually tried to keep the gems away from him, Thanos would just kill everyone on Earth until he got them all as he doesn't care about just Earth but balancing the entire universe - the only way they have a chance is to give him the stones and fight back later. Strange's dust lines tie into this being his reason for the decision as well.[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]The only reason thanos got the mind stone is because he used the time stone to reconstruct it. If strange just bailed with the sling ring, thanos would have failed. Strange could have ported to earth and had scarlet witch destroy the time stone, ending the whole saga.
Also, thanos' plan is dumb altogether, destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately at a random point in time is meaningless since populations grow so they would go back to their old numbers in a few generations. We can also see that the gauntlet gets pretty much destroyed in the process and he crippled the only blacksmith that could make it, so he can't exactly repeat the process every once in a while. Not to mention that destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately means you kill 1/2 of the population even on planets that have absolutely no issue with overpopulation and even planets with dwindling populations.
But ya now we're getting into extreme nitpick territory, at the end of the day it's just a movie [/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]they needed to stop thanos entirely, even with just 4 or 5 infinity stones he was the most powerful being in the universe, they didn't do a great job of showing that tho[/spoiler]
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I liked Infinity War but it was sort of weird when the doors audibly locked, an ear piercing dog whistle type noise blared from the speakers and Iron Man looked directly into the camera and repeated “Die for Israel. Die for Israel” in a stern, almost reassuring voice for fifteen minutes. Lol just sort of a weird moment I also heard a couple people repeating that weird line quietly to themselves when leaving the theater!
I liked Infinity War but it was sort of weird when the doors audibly locked, an ear piercing dog whistle type noise blared from the speakers and Iron Man looked directly into the camera and repeated “Die for Israel. Die for Israel” in a stern, almost reassuring voice for fifteen minutes. Lol just sort of a weird moment I also heard a couple people repeating that weird line quietly to themselves when leaving the theater!
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The one thing that’s sort of defeated the ending for me, is the fact that Spider-Man and all but ticket of the guardians died... when Spider-Man homecoming2 and guardians 3 have both been confirmed. Like... I get they did t for the power in the moment, but knowing they’ll have movies after detracts because you know some how they’ll be back. Some how this ending will get changed. Probably the time stone?
[spoiler]The one thing that’s sort of defeated the ending for me, is the fact that Spider-Man and all but ticket of the guardians died... when Spider-Man homecoming2 and guardians 3 have both been confirmed. Like... I get they did t for the power in the moment, but knowing they’ll have movies after detracts because you know some how they’ll be back. Some how this ending will get changed. Probably the time stone? [/spoiler]
DreamboatShow ContentThe one thing that’s sort of defeated the ending for me, is the fact that Spider-Man and all but ticket of the guardians died... when Spider-Man homecoming2 and guardians 3 have both been confirmed. Like... I get they did t for the power in the moment, but knowing they’ll have movies after detracts because you know some how they’ll be back. Some how this ending will get changed. Probably the time stone?
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Even if those movies didn't get confirmed you'd still know they're going to make a Spiderman 2 and a Black Panther 2 bare minimum, considering the former is Spiderman which they worked their butt off to get a deal for so its not like they're only going to make 1 movie for him and the latter is the biggest grossing Marvel movie of all time.
The whole point of the ending from a narrative standpoint is simply to force A4 to be the last hurrah of the original Avengers, with the help of Hank Pym and Captain Marvel.
The whole point of the ending from a narrative standpoint is simply to force A4 to be the last hurrah of the original Avengers, with the help of Hank Pym and Captain Marvel.
[quote=Dreamboat][spoiler]The one thing that’s sort of defeated the ending for me, is the fact that Spider-Man and all but ticket of the guardians died... when Spider-Man homecoming2 and guardians 3 have both been confirmed. Like... I get they did t for the power in the moment, but knowing they’ll have movies after detracts because you know some how they’ll be back. Some how this ending will get changed. Probably the time stone? [/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]Even if those movies didn't get confirmed you'd still know they're going to make a Spiderman 2 and a Black Panther 2 bare minimum, considering the former is Spiderman which they worked their butt off to get a deal for so its not like they're only going to make 1 movie for him and the latter is the biggest grossing Marvel movie of all time.
The whole point of the ending from a narrative standpoint is simply to force A4 to be the last hurrah of the original Avengers, with the help of Hank Pym and Captain Marvel.
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[spoiler]Even if those movies didn't get confirmed you'd still know they're going to make a Spiderman 2 and a Black Panther 2 bare minimum, considering the former is Spiderman which they worked their butt off to get a deal for so its not like they're only going to make 1 movie for him and the latter is the biggest grossing Marvel movie of all time.
The whole point of the ending from a narrative standpoint is simply to force A4 to be the last hurrah of the original Avengers, with the help of Hank Pym and Captain Marvel.
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really thought i'd be dissapointed but i actually ended up enjoying this movie a lot more than i expected. i usually really dislike superhero movies and the last one i watched was Logan
really thought i'd be dissapointed but i actually ended up enjoying this movie a lot more than i expected. i usually really dislike superhero movies and the last one i watched was Logan
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it would be badass for the MCU people to just say fuck it and wipe out all the new avengers permanently in the ultimate twist but it obviously would never happen and it's probably good in the end because even if the actors wanted to continue reprising their roles the dynamics of the original avengers are pretty played out at this point
but still it would be the best fuck you moment in movie history if they just pulled the plug on all the new projects they dusted at the end of IW
but still it would be the best fuck you moment in movie history if they just pulled the plug on all the new projects they dusted at the end of IW
[spoiler]it would be badass for the MCU people to just say fuck it and wipe out all the new avengers permanently in the ultimate twist but it obviously would never happen and it's probably good in the end because even if the actors wanted to continue reprising their roles the dynamics of the original avengers are pretty played out at this point
but still it would be the best fuck you moment in movie history if they just pulled the plug on all the new projects they dusted at the end of IW[/spoiler]
but still it would be the best fuck you moment in movie history if they just pulled the plug on all the new projects they dusted at the end of IW[/spoiler]
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all their problems could have been avoided if they stopped taking 1v1s on flank
[spoiler]all their problems could have been avoided if they stopped taking 1v1s on flank[/spoiler]
Stepping away from the memes for a bit, one thing I didn't like was how powerless Thor was against Thanos in the beginning of the movie while unarmed, and how he was suddenly infinitely powerful with Stormbreaker. I was under the impression that Thor: Ragnarok was all about Thor discovering his true, hidden potential without needing Mjölnir (and now Stormbreaker). I would think that, even with an Infinity Stone, Thor's punch(es) would be more than a mild inconvenience to Thanos, and that his "god of thunder" power could even be a tough match.
Stepping away from the memes for a bit, one thing I didn't like was how powerless Thor was against Thanos in the beginning of the movie while unarmed, and how he was suddenly infinitely powerful with Stormbreaker. I was under the impression that Thor: Ragnarok was all about Thor discovering his true, hidden potential without needing Mjölnir (and now Stormbreaker). I would think that, even with an Infinity Stone, Thor's punch(es) would be more than a mild inconvenience to Thanos, and that his "god of thunder" power could even be a tough match.
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I really liked the movie. Thanos was a badass and I really hoped they'd actually let him win in this one so I was really happy to see it.
However (I'm sure this is a dead horse already but I'm too lazy to read or watch anything):
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"The universe is finite. Resources are finite. Therefore I must wipe out half the universe to fix overpopulation. Proceeds to alter reality at will, break all laws of physics, generate unlimited energy and warp time using the things literally called "infinity stones".
Now that's just kinda silly. Especially since I heard that Thanos is supposedly a hyper intelligent being. I don't know if his motivations are actually portrayed this way in the comics, but for me, this was the single weirdest moment in the movie.
[spoiler]I really liked the movie. Thanos was a badass and I really hoped they'd actually let him win in this one so I was really happy to see it.[/spoiler]
However (I'm sure this is a dead horse already but I'm too lazy to read or watch anything):
[spoiler]"The universe is finite. Resources are finite. Therefore I must wipe out half the universe to fix overpopulation. [i]Proceeds to alter reality at will, break all laws of physics, generate unlimited energy and warp time using the things literally called "infinity stones".[/spoiler]
Now that's just kinda silly. Especially since I heard that Thanos is supposedly a hyper intelligent being. I don't know if his motivations are actually portrayed this way in the comics, but for me, this was the single weirdest moment in the movie.
However (I'm sure this is a dead horse already but I'm too lazy to read or watch anything):
[spoiler]"The universe is finite. Resources are finite. Therefore I must wipe out half the universe to fix overpopulation. [i]Proceeds to alter reality at will, break all laws of physics, generate unlimited energy and warp time using the things literally called "infinity stones".[/spoiler]
Now that's just kinda silly. Especially since I heard that Thanos is supposedly a hyper intelligent being. I don't know if his motivations are actually portrayed this way in the comics, but for me, this was the single weirdest moment in the movie.
the301stspartanShow ContentI really liked the movie. Thanos was a badass and I really hoped they'd actually let him win in this one so I was really happy to see it.However (I'm sure this is a dead horse already but I'm too lazy to read or watch anything):Show Content"The universe is finite. Resources are finite. Therefore I must wipe out half the universe to fix overpopulation. Proceeds to alter reality at will, break all laws of physics, generate unlimited energy and warp time using the things literally called "infinity stones".Now that's just kinda silly. Especially since I heard that Thanos is supposedly a hyper intelligent being. I don't know if his motivations are actually portrayed this way in the comics, but for me, this was the single weirdest moment in the movie.
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In the comics, what he does has nothing to do with resources or overpopulation, he actually kills half the universe because he's in love with death (which exists as a female character in the marvel universe) and he wants to impress her.
The explanation that I heard about why he doesn't just make more resources is because the stones aren't that powerful in the MCU, killing 50% of all life is much easier than literally duplicating every single resource in existence, and even an easier task like killing people almost breaks the gauntlet (you can see it's crushed and smoking after he snaps his fingers), so duplicating everything would be impossible. Another explanation that I've read was that the stones can control what's already there (the finite matter and energy in the universe) but are unable to make more of it. However yeah I do agree that his plan is ultimately very stupid like I explained back in #30
The explanation that I heard about why he doesn't just make more resources is because the stones aren't that powerful in the MCU, killing 50% of all life is much easier than literally duplicating every single resource in existence, and even an easier task like killing people almost breaks the gauntlet (you can see it's crushed and smoking after he snaps his fingers), so duplicating everything would be impossible. Another explanation that I've read was that the stones can control what's already there (the finite matter and energy in the universe) but are unable to make more of it. However yeah I do agree that his plan is ultimately very stupid like I explained back in #30
SentinelAlso, thanos' plan is dumb altogether, destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately at a random point in time is meaningless since populations grow so they would go back to their old numbers in a few generations. We can also see that the gauntlet gets pretty much destroyed in the process and he crippled the only blacksmith that could make it, so he can't exactly repeat the process every once in a while. Not to mention that destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately means you kill 1/2 of the population even on planets that have absolutely no issue with overpopulation and even planets with dwindling populations.At the end of the day whatever nerdy explanation people come up with to patch the various plot holes is fairly irrelevant, the bottom line is what happened happened because disney thought that particular plot would optimize profits from the movie.
[quote=the301stspartan][spoiler]I really liked the movie. Thanos was a badass and I really hoped they'd actually let him win in this one so I was really happy to see it.[/spoiler]
However (I'm sure this is a dead horse already but I'm too lazy to read or watch anything):
[spoiler]"The universe is finite. Resources are finite. Therefore I must wipe out half the universe to fix overpopulation. [i]Proceeds to alter reality at will, break all laws of physics, generate unlimited energy and warp time using the things literally called "infinity stones".[/spoiler]
Now that's just kinda silly. Especially since I heard that Thanos is supposedly a hyper intelligent being. I don't know if his motivations are actually portrayed this way in the comics, but for me, this was the single weirdest moment in the movie.[/quote]
[spoiler]In the comics, what he does has nothing to do with resources or overpopulation, he actually kills half the universe because he's in love with death (which exists as a female character in the marvel universe) and he wants to impress her.
The explanation that I heard about why he doesn't just make more resources is because the stones aren't that powerful in the MCU, killing 50% of all life is much easier than literally duplicating every single resource in existence, and even an easier task like killing people almost breaks the gauntlet (you can see it's crushed and smoking after he snaps his fingers), so duplicating everything would be impossible. Another explanation that I've read was that the stones can control what's already there (the finite matter and energy in the universe) but are unable to make more of it. However yeah I do agree that his plan is ultimately very stupid like I explained back in #30
[Quote=Sentinel]Also, thanos' plan is dumb altogether, destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately at a random point in time is meaningless since populations grow so they would go back to their old numbers in a few generations. We can also see that the gauntlet gets pretty much destroyed in the process and he crippled the only blacksmith that could make it, so he can't exactly repeat the process every once in a while. Not to mention that destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately means you kill 1/2 of the population even on planets that have absolutely no issue with overpopulation and even planets with dwindling populations. [/Quote]
At the end of the day whatever nerdy explanation people come up with to patch the various plot holes is fairly irrelevant, the bottom line is what happened happened because disney thought that particular plot would optimize profits from the movie.[/spoiler]
However (I'm sure this is a dead horse already but I'm too lazy to read or watch anything):
[spoiler]"The universe is finite. Resources are finite. Therefore I must wipe out half the universe to fix overpopulation. [i]Proceeds to alter reality at will, break all laws of physics, generate unlimited energy and warp time using the things literally called "infinity stones".[/spoiler]
Now that's just kinda silly. Especially since I heard that Thanos is supposedly a hyper intelligent being. I don't know if his motivations are actually portrayed this way in the comics, but for me, this was the single weirdest moment in the movie.[/quote]
[spoiler]In the comics, what he does has nothing to do with resources or overpopulation, he actually kills half the universe because he's in love with death (which exists as a female character in the marvel universe) and he wants to impress her.
The explanation that I heard about why he doesn't just make more resources is because the stones aren't that powerful in the MCU, killing 50% of all life is much easier than literally duplicating every single resource in existence, and even an easier task like killing people almost breaks the gauntlet (you can see it's crushed and smoking after he snaps his fingers), so duplicating everything would be impossible. Another explanation that I've read was that the stones can control what's already there (the finite matter and energy in the universe) but are unable to make more of it. However yeah I do agree that his plan is ultimately very stupid like I explained back in #30
[Quote=Sentinel]Also, thanos' plan is dumb altogether, destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately at a random point in time is meaningless since populations grow so they would go back to their old numbers in a few generations. We can also see that the gauntlet gets pretty much destroyed in the process and he crippled the only blacksmith that could make it, so he can't exactly repeat the process every once in a while. Not to mention that destroying 50% of all life indiscriminately means you kill 1/2 of the population even on planets that have absolutely no issue with overpopulation and even planets with dwindling populations. [/Quote]
At the end of the day whatever nerdy explanation people come up with to patch the various plot holes is fairly irrelevant, the bottom line is what happened happened because disney thought that particular plot would optimize profits from the movie.[/spoiler]
Great movie, loved it, seen it twice.
Still pissed that Adam Warlock was not the central character and the Silver Surfer was missing because both are important in the comics.
Great movie, loved it, seen it twice.
Still pissed that Adam Warlock was not the central character and the Silver Surfer was missing because both are important in the comics.
Still pissed that Adam Warlock was not the central character and the Silver Surfer was missing because both are important in the comics.
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Yeah I knew about Death in the comics, but I thought it was like a additional thing, since they've already hinted at the same thing in the MCU in his first appearance in Avengers 1. I assume we might see her in part 2?
All the explanations for not "making more resources" seem pretty silly to me. From a hard physics standpoint, really anything thanos does with the gauntles violates all laws of nature and basically he can do whatever he likes. Even if he was somehow limited to using existing energy, but was miraculously able to harness it immediately and from any distance, he could've still easily fixed any energy problems any inhabited planets might have. If the MCU is at all like the real universe, there's so much high-energy garbage (stars, black holes, quasars) floating around everywhere, he could've just redirected all that energy to make free milkshakes for everyone forever. I just don't see how obliterating half of every sapient being would be any easier than to just give people resources. At the very least, he could've just taken a much smaller amont of people than 50% and thrown them into ovens to mass-energy convert them into usable energy for the rest (that would've made for an interesting scene). Also, didn't Tony Stark just fix the whole energy problem on Earth with a glowing donut? Why can't thanos give everyone glowing donuts? Also, I thought the Gauntlet was broken because Thor's attack hit right as Thanos was using it.
And yes, of course you're also right that it's obviously much more likely that half the population of a planet vanishing from existence in a moment will lead to the other half dying shortly after than anything good coming from it. All this is so stupid that I'm actually wondering if it's all a deliberate ruse that Thanos is pulling for some reason and "courting death" has been his only motivation all along?
All the explanations for not "making more resources" seem pretty silly to me. From a hard physics standpoint, really anything thanos does with the gauntles violates all laws of nature and basically he can do whatever he likes. Even if he was somehow limited to using existing energy, but was miraculously able to harness it immediately and from any distance, he could've still easily fixed any energy problems any inhabited planets might have. If the MCU is at all like the real universe, there's so much high-energy garbage (stars, black holes, quasars) floating around everywhere, he could've just redirected all that energy to make free milkshakes for everyone forever. I just don't see how obliterating half of every sapient being would be any easier than to just give people resources. At the very least, he could've just taken a much smaller amont of people than 50% and thrown them into ovens to mass-energy convert them into usable energy for the rest (that would've made for an interesting scene). Also, didn't Tony Stark just fix the whole energy problem on Earth with a glowing donut? Why can't thanos give everyone glowing donuts? Also, I thought the Gauntlet was broken because Thor's attack hit right as Thanos was using it.
And yes, of course you're also right that it's obviously much more likely that half the population of a planet vanishing from existence in a moment will lead to the other half dying shortly after than anything good coming from it. All this is so stupid that I'm actually wondering if it's all a deliberate ruse that Thanos is pulling for some reason and "courting death" has been his only motivation all along?
#50 [spoiler]Yeah I knew about Death in the comics, but I thought it was like a additional thing, since they've already hinted at the same thing in the MCU in his first appearance in Avengers 1. I assume we might see her in part 2?
All the explanations for not "making more resources" seem pretty silly to me. From a hard physics standpoint, really anything thanos does with the gauntles violates all laws of nature and basically he can do whatever he likes. Even if he was somehow limited to using existing energy, but was miraculously able to harness it immediately and from any distance, he could've still easily fixed any energy problems any inhabited planets might have. If the MCU is at all like the real universe, there's so much high-energy garbage (stars, black holes, quasars) floating around everywhere, he could've just redirected all that energy to make free milkshakes for everyone forever. I just don't see how obliterating half of every sapient being would be any easier than to just give people resources. At the very least, he could've just taken a much smaller amont of people than 50% and thrown them into ovens to mass-energy convert them into usable energy for the rest (that would've made for an interesting scene). Also, didn't Tony Stark just fix the whole energy problem on Earth with a glowing donut? Why can't thanos give everyone glowing donuts? Also, I thought the Gauntlet was broken because Thor's attack hit right as Thanos was using it.
And yes, of course you're also right that it's obviously much more likely that half the population of a planet vanishing from existence in a moment will lead to the other half dying shortly after than anything good coming from it. All this is so stupid that I'm actually wondering if it's all a deliberate ruse that Thanos is pulling for some reason and "courting death" has been his only motivation all along? [/spoiler]
All the explanations for not "making more resources" seem pretty silly to me. From a hard physics standpoint, really anything thanos does with the gauntles violates all laws of nature and basically he can do whatever he likes. Even if he was somehow limited to using existing energy, but was miraculously able to harness it immediately and from any distance, he could've still easily fixed any energy problems any inhabited planets might have. If the MCU is at all like the real universe, there's so much high-energy garbage (stars, black holes, quasars) floating around everywhere, he could've just redirected all that energy to make free milkshakes for everyone forever. I just don't see how obliterating half of every sapient being would be any easier than to just give people resources. At the very least, he could've just taken a much smaller amont of people than 50% and thrown them into ovens to mass-energy convert them into usable energy for the rest (that would've made for an interesting scene). Also, didn't Tony Stark just fix the whole energy problem on Earth with a glowing donut? Why can't thanos give everyone glowing donuts? Also, I thought the Gauntlet was broken because Thor's attack hit right as Thanos was using it.
And yes, of course you're also right that it's obviously much more likely that half the population of a planet vanishing from existence in a moment will lead to the other half dying shortly after than anything good coming from it. All this is so stupid that I'm actually wondering if it's all a deliberate ruse that Thanos is pulling for some reason and "courting death" has been his only motivation all along? [/spoiler]
the301stspartan#50Show ContentYeah I knew about Death in the comics, but I thought it was like a additional thing, since they've already hinted at the same thing in the MCU in his first appearance in Avengers 1. I assume we might see her in part 2?
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It's not an additional thing, back then they didn't know what they were doing with Thanos so they just used it as a hint towards the comic origin while still being something that makes sense normally "challenging humans would be dangerous for us now aka we'd be courting death!" as a safe end. They're explicitly not doing the Death thing - Feige said as much - , his new motivation is basically keeping a similar idea without the teenager motivation of wanting to bone a girl really badly.
[quote=the301stspartan]#50 [spoiler]Yeah I knew about Death in the comics, but I thought it was like a additional thing, since they've already hinted at the same thing in the MCU in his first appearance in Avengers 1. I assume we might see her in part 2? [/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]It's not an additional thing, back then they didn't know what they were doing with Thanos so they just used it as a hint towards the comic origin while still being something that makes sense normally "challenging humans would be dangerous for us now aka we'd be courting death!" as a safe end. They're explicitly not doing the Death thing - [url=http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/29/avengers-infinity-war-thanos-death-changes/]Feige said as much[/url] - , his new motivation is basically keeping a similar idea without the teenager motivation of wanting to bone a girl really badly.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]It's not an additional thing, back then they didn't know what they were doing with Thanos so they just used it as a hint towards the comic origin while still being something that makes sense normally "challenging humans would be dangerous for us now aka we'd be courting death!" as a safe end. They're explicitly not doing the Death thing - [url=http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/29/avengers-infinity-war-thanos-death-changes/]Feige said as much[/url] - , his new motivation is basically keeping a similar idea without the teenager motivation of wanting to bone a girl really badly.[/spoiler]
First off, the movie has been out for like 2 weeks, do we really need spoiler posts anymore?
As for Thanos's motivations. They didn't put Mistress Death in the movie because it would take everything to the highest levels in the Marvel Universe. Simply put, the movie is not big enough for those type of characters and nobody but the comic readers would be able to understand.
Just about every character in the movie is so incredibly insignificant if you factor in the godly beings that Thanos fights. (Galactus, The Stranger, Order, Chaos, Love, Hate, Death, Mephisto, Eon, Celestials and Eternity itself.) Do you really think Thanos would give 2 shits about getting punched in the face by Captain America when he can shrug off a blast of Cosmic Power from Galactus? I guess what I am saying is that the godly beings (like Mistress Death) are simply too big for the movie screen hence why the movie takes a different path from the comics.
First off, the movie has been out for like 2 weeks, do we really need spoiler posts anymore?
As for Thanos's motivations. They didn't put Mistress Death in the movie because it would take everything to the highest levels in the Marvel Universe. Simply put, the movie is not big enough for those type of characters and nobody but the comic readers would be able to understand.
Just about every character in the movie is so incredibly insignificant if you factor in the godly beings that Thanos fights. (Galactus, The Stranger, Order, Chaos, Love, Hate, Death, Mephisto, Eon, Celestials and Eternity itself.) Do you really think Thanos would give 2 shits about getting punched in the face by Captain America when he can shrug off a blast of Cosmic Power from Galactus? I guess what I am saying is that the godly beings (like Mistress Death) are simply too big for the movie screen hence why the movie takes a different path from the comics.
As for Thanos's motivations. They didn't put Mistress Death in the movie because it would take everything to the highest levels in the Marvel Universe. Simply put, the movie is not big enough for those type of characters and nobody but the comic readers would be able to understand.
Just about every character in the movie is so incredibly insignificant if you factor in the godly beings that Thanos fights. (Galactus, The Stranger, Order, Chaos, Love, Hate, Death, Mephisto, Eon, Celestials and Eternity itself.) Do you really think Thanos would give 2 shits about getting punched in the face by Captain America when he can shrug off a blast of Cosmic Power from Galactus? I guess what I am saying is that the godly beings (like Mistress Death) are simply too big for the movie screen hence why the movie takes a different path from the comics.
the producers must think really lowly about their target audience if they think that having love as the most powerful force in existence that drives even gods to do crazy shit is less relatable vs some malthusian crap that become more retarded with each sec you think about it.
the producers must think really lowly about their target audience if they think that having love as the most powerful force in existence that drives even gods to do crazy shit is less relatable vs some malthusian crap that become more retarded with each sec you think about it.
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Well I just saw the movie today so yes you should add spoilers when giving info away
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For me I thought the movie was great, had a few problem but the biggest one for me IMO was how Quill was in this movie and the role they gave him.
For starters they just made him see like a bitch, never really branched out to what his typical humor really could be. But I have to call utter BS that basically Quill fucked everything up for them just cause he threw a pissy fit. They could have dealt with that situation so much better, for one it's kinda cliche to have the "guy gets angry at villain and gets cheated, but mainly its just a dumb reason to just have half the universe die lmao.
For starters they just made him see like a bitch, never really branched out to what his typical humor really could be. But I have to call utter BS that basically Quill fucked everything up for them just cause he threw a pissy fit. They could have dealt with that situation so much better, for one it's kinda cliche to have the "guy gets angry at villain and gets cheated, but mainly its just a dumb reason to just have half the universe die lmao.
Movie is great tho besides that, I can't wait for the next part now
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Well I just saw the movie today so yes you should add spoilers when giving info away
[spoiler]For me I thought the movie was great, had a few problem but the biggest one for me IMO was how Quill was in this movie and the role they gave him.
For starters they just made him see like a bitch, never really branched out to what his typical humor really could be. But I have to call utter BS that basically Quill fucked everything up for them just cause he threw a pissy fit. They could have dealt with that situation so much better, for one it's kinda cliche to have the "guy gets angry at villain and gets cheated, but mainly its just a dumb reason to just have half the universe die lmao. [/spoiler]
Movie is great tho besides that, I can't wait for the next part now
Well I just saw the movie today so yes you should add spoilers when giving info away
[spoiler]For me I thought the movie was great, had a few problem but the biggest one for me IMO was how Quill was in this movie and the role they gave him.
For starters they just made him see like a bitch, never really branched out to what his typical humor really could be. But I have to call utter BS that basically Quill fucked everything up for them just cause he threw a pissy fit. They could have dealt with that situation so much better, for one it's kinda cliche to have the "guy gets angry at villain and gets cheated, but mainly its just a dumb reason to just have half the universe die lmao. [/spoiler]
Movie is great tho besides that, I can't wait for the next part now
The Infinity Gems were in front of us the whole time
The Infinity Gems were in front of us the whole time
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i hope all the sequel movies for all the characters that died happen before the infinity war to completely destroy peoples theories lmao, like spiderman 2 ends up with peter on the bus on the bridge
i followed the comics loosely, and i think i liked the cinematic version of thanos way better
a lot of people felt sorry for thanos and agreed with his conquest, and i think that just shows what a great villain he is
if they went with the wooing death subplot, i don't think the movie would have done as well
i also thought it was really dumb that peter punched out thanos right before they took off the glove, but like it really makes sense for his character to do something so stupid in the heat of the moment, especially when it comes to gamora
i followed the comics loosely, and i think i liked the cinematic version of thanos way better
a lot of people felt sorry for thanos and agreed with his conquest, and i think that just shows what a great villain he is
if they went with the wooing death subplot, i don't think the movie would have done as well
i also thought it was really dumb that peter punched out thanos right before they took off the glove, but like it really makes sense for his character to do something so stupid in the heat of the moment, especially when it comes to gamora
[spoiler]i hope all the sequel movies for all the characters that died happen before the infinity war to completely destroy peoples theories lmao, like spiderman 2 ends up with peter on the bus on the bridge
i followed the comics loosely, and i think i liked the cinematic version of thanos way better
a lot of people felt sorry for thanos and agreed with his conquest, and i think that just shows what a great villain he is
if they went with the wooing death subplot, i don't think the movie would have done as well
i also thought it was really dumb that peter punched out thanos right before they took off the glove, but like it really makes sense for his character to do something so stupid in the heat of the moment, especially when it comes to gamora[/spoiler]
i followed the comics loosely, and i think i liked the cinematic version of thanos way better
a lot of people felt sorry for thanos and agreed with his conquest, and i think that just shows what a great villain he is
if they went with the wooing death subplot, i don't think the movie would have done as well
i also thought it was really dumb that peter punched out thanos right before they took off the glove, but like it really makes sense for his character to do something so stupid in the heat of the moment, especially when it comes to gamora[/spoiler]
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