unfortunately almost all public inhouses will always have their skill level right alongside the borderline of pugchamp, which means players at around a low to mid intermediate level. any publicly posted pug group posted will deviate towards that low-mid IM level just because 1. those are the players that don't get picked on pugchamp more often that not and 2. they never get fatkidded in inhouses which results in 3. the lower level players getting forced out because they in turn always get fatkidded. for strictly open level pug groups, you should ask around privately for invite only groups to avoid the problem above.

adding on to what gloperz said, one reason there aren't a lot of active open pug groups is lots of open players dont play this game enough to want to pug every night, so lots of groups (like latepugs) die pretty heckin quick

Faceit beginner pugs are still alive in North America, they go from 6 pm EST to midnight daily.

damn i was lookin at the wrong time. thanks man

just play medic on pugchamp until you have enough games to captain then you can't get fatkidded

Don't captain on pugchamp unless you know all the players

ya but everyone there is a toxic b4nny fanboy

then slay them and teleport yourself to the invite division

no because their garbage attitudes make it unfun to play