I've never won a round because a player decided to set their own computer on fire. Until someone has and you convince yourself that the other team was in a good position anyway and the computer melting was simply icing on the cake, I don't think I'm really going to take any of your points seriously.
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Okay you can convince yourself that na'vi earned that victory
I hope to god you don't watch EG games or you must be a mental gymnast
MultipleEntendrem i really dont think orange was quite as far ahead as people think thanks to track kills getting up key items on them
This. Even with Aegis, Orange would have still had to execute a high-ground push against a BKB Enigma and a Abyssal Lifestealer, and Navi had buybacks. With the way they ended up shutting down the Bane and OD with those items, I'm not convinced Orange could have made a game-winning push at that time. Pretty sure the game would have gone later anyway.
On the other hand, the aegis deny probably ruined Orange's mindset. And Navi is going to get ruined by Alliance now.
Execute a high-ground push? Mushi could have AFKd with arcane orb on auto-cast and gotten a 3k. They can buy-back into their own bkb/ult CDs as much as they want but that next fight was orange's guaranteed with the aegis and given how they executed the fight in their own jungle there is no feasible way they would have botched that.
I'm really not even interested in watching the rest of this now, jesus. Orange had like the perfect loser's bracket run going for them and all the momentum going into grand finals on the most amazing aggressive plays ever and then they throw so hard that you can't even consider na'vi as earning the win.
Welp I guess loda and the band of f[A]ggots get their day
some serious 322/collusion shit
it's like I watched rudy but instead of a great heart warming end he gets shot in a back alley trying to score crack off a homeless man
brownymaster2sy_morphiend1. There was no way they were getting high ground without aegisOrange did lose it more than Navi winning it, I know that. It's more of the mind fuck of losing the Aegis, and yeah the Aegis could have made the major difference, but we'll never know.
2. Their line-up was drafted to get high-ground early and then finish them up immediately after
3. Ky.xy's deny meant they were immediately lost 10 minutes worth of time heading into the late-game
That was a half million dollar auto-attack, if you seriously believe that na'vi earned that you're insane
Mushi was way too much to handle at that point and aegis takes away all of the possibility of turning it around on a big puck/black hole play. There was no way they didn't know they were fucked after that just by looking at team composition.
brownymasterI honestly don't think the Aegis deny is the reason they lost, but that's going to easily be the easiest and most major mistake to point out.
1. There was no way they were getting high ground without aegis
2. Their line-up was drafted to get high-ground early and then finish them up immediately after
3. Ky.xy's deny meant they immediately lost 10 minutes worth of time heading into the late-game
That was a half million dollar auto-attack, if you seriously believe that na'vi earned that you're insane
Ky.xy's house is about to get burned down ahahaha
scott norwood is laughing
If don't seriously think orange just lost that rather than na'vi winning you're kidding yourself
ky.xy is definitely cut after that, you don't lose your team 400,000 on being a retard and stay
MultipleEntendreHoly shit, Navi. How do they do this.
you get one guess
I'm feeling another strong orange draft, if weaver is off-lane he's going to get mulched by that alch/lesh/bane safe-lane.
ooooooh and x misses the stun
5 slot shadow fiend against mushi QoP, there are so many ?????????s going through my head about that
puppey couldn't have been thinking straight on that
r4ptureKind of off topic but I just wanted to post in this thread again to point something out
2sy_morphiendI don't think anyone that has seriously played the game for any real amount of time was complaining about a stale meta. Robin Walker talked out of his ass and UGC set itself on fire because for some reason they put absolute faith in a guy that has probably watched less competitive tf2 in his life than many of them do in a night.
I see so much of this it seriously makes me laugh and question the "great knowledge" of the general tf.tv consensus. If you or anyone honestly, HONESTLY think the guy who thought up, created, and maintained this game since 1996, who was involved in all aspects of the games tiniest details, the majority of which none of us even know, and who works for a company renowned for their top quality products and industry leading standards, is somehow absolutely clueless about the competitive aspect of of the game he created and maintained for 17 years, you are either highly delusional or have some serious cognitive dissidence going on.
JUST SAYIN
Robin walker equated class choices in TF2 to hero selection in Dota. If you seriously believe that these are stable, rational analogies and not just superficially related associations then you are a moron. End of story.
Also, if "why robin walker personally doesn't watch competitive tf2" is a legitimate reason to change the meta-game because it's apparently to recondite for the average viewer, who honestly gives a shit? FPS is about player skill and superior/movement aim, a superficial composition selection meaning we need to be tied down to League/Dota in terms of meta-game development is retarded.
DunderBroEsDeeKayreally doubt that, I cant see why you wouldnt try your fullest for a grandfinal spot in ti3Shalomalechemlol navi draft in second game vs alliance. how would a luna outcarry a ld and a alchemist (so tired of seeing that fucker)? anyway i think they were semi-trolling, maybe they were confident they can get up from the lower bracket?
Pretty sure Na'vi understood that they weren't going to beat alliance that time and they just wanted to do something fun for the viewers.
Na'vi historically tends to rely on some pretty shady strats when in a pinch. When it works (e/jugg/pudge) they are the best team ever, when it doesn't (dendi on tide/5 slot nyx/skywrath) they end up looking like they're clowning around.
Day 3 high-lights aka The Orange Frag Vid