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#79 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
tsarThis really boils down to cost-benefit analyses for both languages.

English:
+ Financially lucrative by opening career options
+ Access to English-language media
+ Many speakers in your age/regional cohort
+ You were probably taught it in school and have some familiarity
- On the margin, it is harder to learn

Esperanto
+ On the margin, it is easier to learn
+ Greater grammatical precision
- Nonexistent financial return

http://esperantoilustrita.blogspot.com/2012/11/esperantista-entreprenisto-premiita-en.html

Actually, capitalist esperantists end up teaching professionals Esperanto, over getting some unexperienced anglo because it's easier and faster that way. and there is a Chinese capitalist "Ĉielismo" that uses Esperanto: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jH2nCF_-4R4

tsar- Little/no works produced originally in language, compared to English

There is tons of esperanto works, like 40000. Enough to be impossible to read in a single life... and esperantists can make more works! easier than in english!

of course, you won't read any of them because you don't even want to study the language itself!

Remuŝ (#225) English has far more speakers.
... Right! So what? Chinese has more.
What is important is the number of people who cannot speak to each other using any language they know (even in China).
tsar(Sidenote: Even if the requisite effort to learn Esperanto is much smaller, you can't just ignore the number of current speakers. I would be shocked if the collective study time for all competitive players to learn Esperanto with the exclusive purpose of more precise comms (a contested issue to begin with) is less than what is required for the non-English speakers who lack career or cultural incentive to learn to do so for TF2)

So I think setting up a little experiment is a good idea for this. Why don't we go on ahead and discuss how we should do it?

Here is also a poll: https://web.archive.org/web/20191027044103/http://multivote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/3142. Yes, I know online polls are notoriously unreliable, but there have also been IRL polls.

tsarYou may sincerely believe that the positives for Esperanto matter a lot. But as revealed to us from the continued incumbent status of English, people don't agree with you.tsarYou presented your case against the status quo and are seemingly offended that people have justifications for why the status quo is what it is.

because its wrong and I've proven it wrong multiple times in this whole thread.

tsarAimIsADickjnkiWhile being wrong...
This guy is the exact person that you're supposedly trying to make things better for. He's telling you in no uncertain terms that he thinks your idea is unrealistic. He could have learned Esperanto, but when he ran the cost-benefit calculation, he opted for English. Rather than assume he's just not Educated enough, try to understand why he made the decision he did. Allow information from people who actually make these choices to shape your views--that's how you learn how things work.

Then understand esperantists (like me) before you make arrogant proclamations about esperanto!

You derived that from someone who has not even bothered to explain his reasoning, and hasn't even bothered to study the language! he could have been reasoning something entirely different.

and likewise, understand why Im responding to you like this. you arrogantly state incorrect misinformation about our language, while not even speaking it. and you don't even check my evidence by other esperantists!

And Please don't butcher my quotes like that:

AimIsADickWhile being wrong at the same time and not even studying our language (which aint hard btw). You all rush to call me an idiot without even fact checking your own claims!
posted about a year ago
#77 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
toads_tfAimIsADickHow is spanish a "more useful alternative"? I was forced to learn it years ago in school, and I cant remember it at all. If that was the case, how come I don't see every english speaker speaking spanish?AimIsADickthere's a reason Esperanto is the only other language I've managed to properly learn.AimIsADickIndeed, but Esperanto was the easiest for the bunch. it only took me 3 months to learn it.AimIsADickI can just stand with someone speaking mandarin and then understand them "overtime" without effort? That will never fucking happen. in fact, I'd give up long before then.AimIsADickEnglish takes forever to learn properly. You repeatedly impute your own shortcomings to everyone else in a really insulting way

Wow. you blame everything and the difficulties of mandarin and english and spanish, exacerbated by an awful education system, on me. straight up victim blaming...

And how exactly am I insulting? You all have been insulting me after that "übersaw is overrated" post (which I have since moved on from).

posted about a year ago
#75 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
crabbersSTFU STFU STFU STFU STFU NOW NOW NOW

Ne /ŝerco

posted about a year ago
#73 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
hpqoeuAimIsADickStop. "soldiers double bomb" can easily communicate something else: that is soldiers bombing twice, or doubling a bomb.
Now if you added "in" to the above translation (to create "soldiers in double bomb"), you'd be able to remove those ambiguities.

you are arguing about callouts and shorthand in a game you seem? to have very little experience in.

Likewise, you're arguing with me about a language you don't understand and haven't studied.

hpqoeusomeone calling a "soldier double bomb" is pretty universally agreed upon that it means two soldiers are bombing at the same time

Universally agreed by long term comp players yes, but what about the learner who has to learn that beforehand? what about the learner who maybe just learned what "double" means in english class?!

hpqoeualso dont know how to feel about an american telling me to learn another language after the english already forced everyone to

Uh, 400 million people is not everyone; there's 7 8 billion people. and English takes forever to learn it properly. also, that was because of settler colonialism.

Here's a question: how much time did y'all spend learning english? (in total, don't lie or cheat).

posted about a year ago
#72 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
jnkias an ESL guy I would like to personally thank brody & toads_tf for breaking down in no uncertain terms why this idea is delusional

special mention goes to Jw for killer post

not all heroes wear capes

While being wrong at the same time and not even studying our language (which aint hard btw). You all rush to call me an idiot without even fact checking your own claims!

posted about a year ago
#71 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster

All that talk about how I'm "not reading properly" (which I've done once) yet y'all manage to miscomprehend my own responses multiple times. lmao

posted about a year ago
#70 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
bearodactylMaybe if you can’t even type the characters without copy pasting it isn’t the most practical choice lol.

I haven't said that once! I can type the characters just fine. I was actually talking to elektro, who didn't actually type in the characters properly.

AimIsADickBy the way, pro tip: If it's impossible to enter esperanto letters with accents (ĉ ĝ ĥ ĵ ŝ ˛ŭ), there's the h-system that allows you to express these letters in ASCII-only environments (ĉ=ch, ĝ=gh, ĥ=hh, ĵ=jh, ŝ=sh, ŭ=u).

Of course, it's absolutely possible to enter in the accented letters here, so I'd recommend using copy and paste to type those letters properly.
bearodactylAlso love the entire premise being “if everyone in Europe sinks over a year into learning this useless language, then they can *maybe* be slightly more efficient in communicating” without considering if it’s even something people want (calls are already extremely efficient, anyone who actually plays comp knows)

“Noooo this meme language I wasted my time learning can’t be useless, these players just don’t know what’s good for them!”
https://i.imgur.io/4xGhBrt_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Also FYI you don’t need a citation to prove the points people are arguing against you, it’s just basic logic lol you’re supposed to argue against the ideas they are saying.

What? A citation is there to show reference to previous evidence already formed.

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AimIsADickBy the way, pro tip: If it's impossible to enter esperanto letters with accents (ĉ ĝ ĥ ĵ ŝ ˛ŭ), there's the h-system that allows you to express these letters in ASCII-only environments (ĉ=ch, ĝ=gh, ĥ=hh, ĵ=jh, ŝ=sh, ŭ=u).

Of course, it's absolutely possible to enter in the accented letters here, so I'd recommend using copy and paste to type those letters properly.

I was talking about primarily ASCII only environments; where no other language (like Spanish or Russian, certainly not mandarin) can easily be enkoded.

bearodactylAlso love the entire premise being “if everyone in Europe sinks over a year into learning this useless language, then they can *maybe* be slightly more efficient in communicating” without considering if it’s even something people want (calls are already extremely efficient, anyone who actually plays comp knows)

Actually, you only need a few months to learn it. Not as much as english, which takes 10s of years. Slightly?

"Efficient calls" my ass! I've seen terms like al-quaeda which relates NOTHING to their traditional term. This makes it harder for english learners, not easier.

Esperanto terms are already quite short. and it isn't a "maybe" it's a fact.

bearodactyl“Noooo this meme language I wasted my time learning can’t be useless, these players just don’t know what’s good for them!”
https://i.imgur.io/4xGhBrt_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Wasn't useless for me! I actually met another esperantist in game.

and you're also forgetting that it was developed only 100 years ago. No language can quickly(in terms of years) grow to millions of speakers without lots of time, definitely not any "natural" language lol.

bearodactylAlso FYI you don’t need a citation to prove the points people are arguing against you, it’s just basic logic lol you’re supposed to argue against the ideas they are saying.

So by that logic. I don't need to cite evidence of climate change against climate change deniers, I'm supposed to recreate the evidence myself?

posted about a year ago
#66 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster

By the way, pro tip: If it's impossible to enter esperanto letters with accents (ĉ ĝ ĥ ĵ ŝ ˛ŭ), there's the h-system that allows you to express these letters in ASCII-only environments (ĉ=ch, ĝ=gh, ĥ=hh, ĵ=jh, ŝ=sh, ŭ=u).

Of course, it's absolutely possible to enter in the accented letters here, so I'd recommend using copy and paste to type those letters properly.

posted about a year ago
#63 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
elektroAimIsADickAlso: "Flankonto alsaltas min!" and "Poduope puŝas ili!" try and replicate those in english...
flank/ont/o • al/salt/as • mi/n
flank - side [or flank]
ont - ending of future active participle in verbs
o - ending of nouns (substantive)

al - to
salt - jump
as - ending of the present tense in verbs

mi - i [meaning me]
n - ending of the objective; also marks direction

literal - "side is jumping me"
"rudimentary english" - soldiers bombing, demos bombing, scouts in

The English translations are not communicating the full sense. they are communicating something very different from what the esperanto sentence communicates. the future participle "flankonto" and "min" are ignored completely, even when "min" could easily be included. (into "soldiers bombing me", "demos bombing me" "scouts in me")

"Soldiers bombing" only communicates that the soldiers are doing bombings. I still wouldn't know the time or the target.

The above goes for "Demos bombing"?

"scouts in" scouts in what? in a house? or flank? in what?

overall, all you did here is remove the target (me) and the future participle! That's not expressing in english; that's butchering the translation of the sentence!

elektropo/duopo • pu[ŝ]/as • ili
po - at, at the rate of, by
duope - by twos "pairs"

pu[ŝ] - push
as - ending of the present tense in verbs

ili - they

literal - "they're pushing in twos(pairs)"
"rudimentary english" - both scouts in, soldiers double bomb, flanks pushing, etc.
depending on scenario you would use different terminology that can all be shortened down to two-four words

Stop. "soldiers double bomb" can easily communicate something else: that is soldiers bombing twice, or doubling a bomb.
Now if you added "in" to the above translation (to create "soldiers in double bomb"), you'd be able to remove those ambiguities.

elektrocannot believe i just looked through grammatical rules and a glossary to able to write it out, and yet i was still able to come up with potentially shorter sentences.

That is, however, at the expense of introducing more radicals and completely butchering the original sense! Focusing on shortness to a dogmatic degree makes the sentence hard to process properly.

Also, "soldiers double bomb" is not shorter than the Esperanto sentence, its longer than the Esperanto sentence:

"Poduope puŝas ili" is 17 characters long
"soldiers double bomb" is 20 characters long.

elektrodon't even quote me, this is my only post. i think this entire conversation is pointless because nobody is going to want to learn a new language to "maximize talking efficiency/brain processing speed".

Indeed, I didn't say that at all. learners are going to want to be able to communicate better, not primarily "think better".

(Ugh, I really should have worked on this particular reply some more. lots of edits I should have added on at the start...)

posted about a year ago
#61 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
toads_tfAimIsADickSo why does the german language, for instance, have a grammar if grammars in general were oh so "unnecessary"?English has a grammar, too. Why German?

To continue in good faith: grammar is not "unnecessary" at all, but subconscious grammatical analysis not the way that we parse speech. Consider as an obvious and simple example that grammatically incorrect phrased are often perfectly intelligible and even become ingrained in our speech (e.g., "me too" in response to "I like riding my bike" is not considered strange and sexually perverse).
toads_tfIf you are learning a language that people actually speak,

Such as Esperanto, [1][2][3] I cited lots of evidence earlier and you completely ignored it.

toads_tfyou will notice while listening to a speaker that you can begin to understand them without a full grasp of the syntactical content of their speech. Rather, you pick up on phrases, commonly associated words, and patterns of speech that are the more fundamental basis of verbal communication. Grammar was derived inductively from these patterns, not the other way around, and your notion of grammar as a rigid prescription reflects your bias toward imperialist and nationalist languages and cultures where it has indeed taken on that role.

So by that logic. I can just stand with someone speaking mandarin and then understand them "overtime" without effort? That will never fucking happen. in fact, I'd give up long before then.

I didn't say anything about grammar prescribing stuff. I just said that having an unclear grammar can make comprehension harder.

and i'm not a fucking imperialist. I'm not going around in africa or china colonizing them.

toads_tfYou, as an autistic person, seem to not really like that the "rules" of vernacular speech being mostly guidelines (not unique to English, either) does not interfere with intelligibility, which appears to be the basis for your understanding of what a "beneficial" language entails.

The grammar of esperanto isn't a guideline like the grammar of english, it's a ruleset. Quit talking over me.

toads_tfYour attraction to a language that was "cooked up in the lab" over any natural language which has been the expression and determinant of a people's collective consciousness for millennia kind of reveals the point brody is trying to make, or maybe you just had a really bad Spanish teacher

Designed in a polish house for 30 years actually, not a lab; and also with 30 years of criticism.

Where do you think the "natural" languages came from? simple, they were also planned up: by primitive monkeys millions of years ago. where do you think English came from?

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Once again, you keep citing not a SINGLE source for your claims. they'll be unsubstantiated until you even remotely attempt to back them up. Nor do you read any of my sources. you parrot the same claim over and over again.

Here is a very good source. READ IT!: https://web.archive.org/web/20191027044103/http://remush.be/rebuttal/index.html#artificial

posted about a year ago
#58 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster

So instead of answering me, you dodge my response and insult me, like as if a scapegoat.

brodybefore u dedicate more of your time to studying rules and structures of various things. everything you say on here is either hyperfocused on an irrelevant technicality or ignoring the human component of interpersonal/cultural interactions and it makes it completely pointless to say anything to u

That literally involves:

brody...intellectually understanding how human beings tend to interact in real life scenarios...brodyask yourself what u want out of a conversation like this. if u want to prove a point, then u need to consider the topic from a broader perspective than that of a purely logical robot. if u want to have stimulating discussion then u need to be less of an obstinate and irritating person to discuss things with

I am.

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I have a question brody: are you a foreigner?

posted about a year ago
#56 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
toads_tfAimIsADicktoads_tfAimIsADickUh that makes word combination harder not easier, and Esperanto is an international, not just intereuropean, language.https://i.imgur.com/j6Uh4p7.png
you might also notice you understood exactly what you meant by "intereuropean", even though if you were to semantically break it down like you seem to think is valuable for TF2 comms, you would realize that the word makes no sense. Maybe this context sensitivity also applies to something like "spy scout", a nonsensical phrase per se that makes perfect sense to someone in a TF2 match.

That example wasn't about making sense, it was about distinguishing grammatical elements so that you could appropriately comprehend them.

Either way that isn't relevant to the actual point.
I know what parts of speech are. I am trying to convey to you that knowing about grammatical constructs hardly helps you understand what people are trying to tell you. An illiterate person does not really know what a noun is, while still speaking and understanding English beyond adequately. Likewise, an ESL gamer who likely learned English mostly through immersion (video games, YouTube, TV shows, forums, etc.) will become equally unfazed by "irregularities of English" as an American or Englishman because speech is about conveying meaning and pattern recognition,

So why does the german language, for instance, have a grammar if grammars in general were oh so "unnecessary"?

and again, that still isn't relevant to the actual point. made in the original quote. quit dodging the original point.
And anyway you can do that in Esperanto: you can replace (only) the -o ending, to communicate the substantive, and (only) the -a of the article with a line. this is because the substantive can communicate an adjective and adverb. example: «ŝiler'» for «ŝiler'o».

posted about a year ago
#54 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
brodyAimIsADickUh, you can't say "me uber" like you can in esperantoyes u can u literally just did

Oh yeah, me is a direct object. I forgot, so sorry about that. still, there are the

brodyAimIsADickAlso: "Flankonto alsaltas min!" and "Poduope puŝas ili!" try and replicate those in english...guarantee u i could say those more succinctly if u told me what theyre trying to communicate

ah I see why you kept saying that stuff. you just rely on the English translations for everything.

Also, congrats! That just shows me you haven't even remotely studied Esperanto, like I thought! all of these terms and radicals used are of fundamental esperanto, that you could have even partly comprehended if you actually studied the language...

Oh wait! you can study the language! here: https://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org/fundamento/. now go ahead, try to comprehend those esperanto-only sentences I made. actually, i'll make it easier: i'll split up the combined words so you can distinguish them easier!

Here are the sentences for reference:
* "Flank|ont|o al|salt|as mi|n!"
* "Po|du|op|e puŝ|as ili!"

brodyAimIsADickLike Esperantoplease be serious dogg

i am, and i have backed it up, which you conveniently ignore...

brodyAimIsADickThat's because of the culture that's been built up by natives, that prevents English from being used so regularly.your insistence on a blanket, robotic rejection of any social, cultural, human impact on the use and structures of things like language (perhaps the purest cultural artifact) is an immense blind spot in your understanding of almost everything you talk about

I literally just mentioned the impact of culture on the english language in the quoted text... I did not reject culture at all here.

For all that talk about me supposedly miscomprehending these posts

brodyAimIsADickAlso, foreign speakers of english do use grammatically precise elements of english against the proper forms, because learning all the irregularities is difficult for them.yes, in certain ways this is common, and they are completely intelligible without being fully familiar with usage of things like contractions and common idiomatic shortenings etc. in some ways many also tend to speak with imprecise patterns (missing determiners, odd word ordering, etc) and are still usually very intelligible. neither end of this is a problem

Ok, so why force them to learn the exceptions of english? why not remove them entirely from the base language?

brodyAimIsADickI would easily have used the word misconflate, if I was allowed to. but y'all didn't allow me toyou did, and you were. again, people understood what you meant, they were making fun of you because you were being annoying

It was not just "being annoying" that got me that hate. Even if i'm able to (which I indeed am) it won't necessarily be tolerated in real use of English. I certainty wasn't tolerated for using "misconflate": https://www.teamfortress.tv/60244/is-consistency-always-a-good-thing/?page=2

brodyAimIsADickOr is it? is ¨spy scout" an infinitive and acusative, or an adjective and substantive, or a substantive and adjective?completely missing the basic point here. people dont formally diagram sentences in their head before they process the information. "spy scout" is literally not a sentence or even really a sentence fragment. its two nouns, communicated together, with an obvious meaning implied by their combination. if you say it, any tf2 player who knows the words "spy" and "scout" will know what you mean

that's is because of common usage that way, indeed. but what if I use spy in the sense of an infinitive?

how are you certain of that if the forms don't change? spy can be used as an infinitive and adjective and substantive ya know... https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spy.

posted about a year ago
#51 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
toads_tfAimIsADickUh that makes word combination harder not easier, and Esperanto is an international, not just intereuropean, language.https://i.imgur.com/j6Uh4p7.png
you might also notice you understood exactly what you meant by "intereuropean", even though if you were to semantically break it down like you seem to think is valuable for TF2 comms, you would realize that the word makes no sense. Maybe this context sensitivity also applies to something like "spy scout", a nonsensical phrase per se that makes perfect sense to someone in a TF2 match.

That example wasn't about making sense, it was about distinguishing grammatical elements so that you could appropriately comprehend them.

Either way that isn't relevant to the actual point.

posted about a year ago
#49 Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive in The Dumpster
delete_my_accountAimIsADickIt doesn't make sense for me indeed; but I just thought it would make sense for European competitive players.you should ask EU comp players if they think learning a new language could help them win more games instead of just thinking it could help them win more games.

make an online poll/survey asking EU players if its worth learning Esperanto, preferably in new thread since this thread is in the dumpster and won't attract much attention.

I agree. its not a bad idea.

posted about a year ago
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