I wouldn't consider it homosexual. Note, I would not consider it heterosexual either. I don't know what I would consider it, but I know I wouldn't want to do it. I hope this doesn't make me some biggot. I find the idea of the operation unattractive, yet I am not attracted to pre-op so it's not something I would put myself up against. It's something that doesn't effect how I live my life, and I'm happy to keep it that way, happy to champion someones right to live their own life, and happy to have the conversation about what is and what isn't.

Hmm, I guess that makes a bit more sense, remedy, but I still think the scenario is entirely bogus, and does the point injustice. For instance the M<F we agree identifies as female and is thus attracted to men and the F<M male and thus attracted to females, the frame of scenario implies they should both be attracted to eachother, and I seriously doubt that. I believe the scenario is just creating an artificial trap.

Also I kept up with the thread, and I wonder if with that reproduction argument, Smaka was not trying to say something more along the lines of a homosexual relationship not being intuitive. Meaning, while not "wrong" (smaka above mentioned he misused the word) a homosexual relationship seems, at a physical level, literally counter-producitve. Of course no one is saying being productive is necessary. I believe everyone should be able to live the lifestyle they want so long as it doesn't hurt me. This doesn't hurt me, so I'm peachy.

I do, however, see what smaka is trying to get at. We aren't allowed to talk like this because it might mean biggotry, judgement, and hurt, things we try so hard to move beyond and remove from the social discourse. So opinions deemed taboo begin being lopped in with ignorance and biggotry, but I think there is a founded point here: If you look at the human species, the male/female dichotomy, what is immediately understood is the importance of sexual reproduction. Not importance in necessity of the act to be performed, but importance in how the species is identified and how it typically operates. In that sense, non-hetero relations are...lets not say "not normal" (society has conflated the term normal) lets say "atypical" to the apparent function of the species.

This is probably a more sterile and reasonable way of stating the argument, but all we've done is confuse the language, in order to avoid buzz-words that often feed and cue a mindset we find intolerable. I reject the idea that Smaka is saying "gay people are wrong because they don't make babies." I think that is a hyperbolized and conflated statement of his opinion, even if it came off that way.

Woa, I am gonna peak my head into this shitstorm only to say that this example is completely bogus. No matter what you believe, it is just bogus. I am straight. Obviously the transgender M<F is more visually attractive. Things have been done to make him more visually appealing to a person who is attracted to women. This means very little, and does not somehow bump sexual relations with this person out of the homosexual category. The female to male is technically a heterosexual mate for a male, but it's not like any heterosexual male would say "you know what turns me on..."

This scenario is imaginary, and the theoretical "you have to choose" is a trap. No one has to choose. Those aren't the only two options, and you know that.

I don't see how what is physically attractive to look at, makes its way into the determining gender conversation. Either side of the argument ought to agree on that.

transfat has been really getting some bad publicity these past years

Well said, Smaka.

2 of my deathadders had this issue 1 was a usb port problem, the other was I outclicked the left click

you said it is only on the Left click right? If you experience no other mouse lag, and right click is functioning okay I would consider the possibility that you have clicked your left click one too many times

free DH

I don't know much about pc trouble-shooting, but try a different usb port, could be a dying one

I didn't get to watch it either. Just curious, when the VODS are released would you guys enjoy/want to see a stream of them with commentary/analysis/casting?

I don't usually watch vods once I know the result but it could be cool in a group setting if you guys wanted to watch it with me over stream

ugh I didn't want to have to do this, but..

you're not sorry

the problem with ^ is that its so out of the way for both teams to get to, they would end up fighting eachother as they spawned and ran to the CP

I like the idea of having it where the sentry nest goes on the roof, it makes your land of airshots a viable flank to the point, and keeps the rest of the main area in play. Just think of all the teams jumping soldiers and demo's up from the bottom of the roof (where the current PL cap is) that would also be really fun for airshots

yz50 and clockwork both used russian style and they are amazing scouts. It's really just preference though, I don't think there is any correlation. For instance, I use the a normal/inverted-V style myself and I'm....

brb trying something

At area 1 I would put the first capture forward more, either in the center above where those two stairways are (by the hp and ammo pack and rocks) or further up by the cliff HP (where sentries are put in pubs)

The second capture I would put on the roof where the sentry nest goes.

The 3rd and final captures could remain the same unless play testing determines otherwise, but I think those first 2 changes would make much more sense and interesting gameplay for a CP styled badwater

greatwork

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