http://www.wimp.com/scarymonsters/

cp_mainline_rc5 (the one double natasha heavy ruined)

or

cp_mainline_rc6 (the one he edited to the tune of everyones criticism but a worse version, imo)

take a look at them, I dare you

Both are cool. I like the top won a lot.

If a faster more DM based gameplay is your style, go with scout. Don't worry about winning 1v1's atm, if this class appeals to you most then play that.

Scouts are a dime a dozen however, its much rarer to find a competent demo, pocket, roamer, or even med. Conversely, scout is the most forgiving class if you are new to how 6v6 works. Keep this in mind when considering your aspirations. It'll be easier to get on a team as a new scout than anything else, but it will also take longer to rise in the ranks unless you are a natural DM beast or really really smart.

#7, watch all of s1, they dont get killed, well, 6 of them dont

Anyway I read them all up to 5 (most current) and now I'm rereading 3. I never reread books, but rereading this has been super fun, so much you miss and so much more to discover. I highly recommend the books to anyone who likes the series.

Season 1 followed the book relatively close. Season 2 followed the story for the most part but too some liberties. I expect S3 to do the same, the story grows too large in scope to follow closely, but I'm stoked all the same.

Add a NY server and the sniper class can die a fiery death for all I care. Honestly there are a bunch of east coasters who have nothing in the way of servers, the best we have is Chicago. You could make many boys and girls happy with a NY server, or just me, but that is okay too.

I find the idea that, "we can't have a sniper because it weakens the team" in DM mod, to be really foolish. It's DM mod, not a team mod. Even if it were true, your "team" at a disadvantage is a strong way to practice. When your team loses one extra guy than they kill in a match what will happen in that situation?

That being said the fog servers aren't the only DM servers, and it's nice to see fog trying to poll the community and create the most desired DM environment, that is greatly appreciated. But I do think some of you are batshit crazy with your grand notions of DMmod...and it's not just because I'm a shitty, sniper loving, gotta get dem headshotz, no talent, washed up, hack.

(that's only part of it)

in elementary school, people used to pick on me for being short

good thing that stopped...

free the snipers...get the headshot only plugin

I don't see the point in arguing argument style. That is really really silly. I ignored it at first. Since you don't understand, there is something called rhetoric. Sure the points are hypocritical IF I WAS ARGUING THE PRECEDENT OF BANNING SOMETHING. Lost on you, is how I did not. Fog set that precedent. Reread what I wrote, both posts. It shows how I believe banning these things are wrong and how (under the established policy of going with bans) failing to ban these other things (while under this no tolerance policy) is doubly wrong. It should be clear that I think extvDM is the model example. None of these things are banned in extvdm. So to make my non-hypocritcal point clear: there are many "gay" things that happen in DM that is the nature of DM (see gunboats) picking and choosing which to ban and failing to ban them all is wrong, banning them all would result in a mod where you never get flanked and every fight is fair or "MGE mod"

See how silly that all was.

Everything is "gay" in DM. It's DM. You go to practice skills. To me, rocket jumping onto a scout fight as a soldier or shooting a soldier fight in the back as a scout is just as dumb as sniping from a corner, but they are byproducts of players attempting to hone a skill. The gunboats of all items should be a no brain removal. It is a unlocked that encourages bombing....bombing isn't DM.

Get the plugin that nulls bodyshots and allows only headshots like the good DM servers used to have and you'll find snipers much more manageable espescially when the shoes on your feet allow you to fly over to them while taking <20 damage.

Bans legalized weapons in mod designed to practice skills. Doesn't ban gunboats. Considers adding loose cannon. I've seen it all. When does the soldier v scout mod come out?

I'll be with the cool kids in extv dm.

This is incredible. Looks like it would make casting much easier and by default turn the cast into a better product for the viewers.

No more of that classic "well it looks like the blue team will have an easy time pushing yard here, unless, but, no... the red roamer was waiting for them in the corner, I didn't even see him over there, but great play from him"

Instead it can "Blue team with the advantage are making their move into yard, but look at this there is a red player nearby on the flank, I dont think he has been spotted, the combo is going to have to be on their toes here, lets see if they spot him...theyre getting closer, still no notice, they're right ontop of eachother, the play should happen any second now, here it comes, and ohhh, the medic drops! excellent play from the red soldier"

Way easier to keep track of all the classes and allow casters to filter out non-relevant information for what is more clearly a play about to happen/push about come based on player movements. A godsend for those who cast in free fly like I do.

Where do I get my hands on this?

harsh, but I guess ESEA is trying to send a message, unfortunate that FT is at the receiving end but then again everything surrounding the incident is unfortunate, I see where ESEA is coming from, let this be a precedent and lets move forward

frags were excellent