NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT GRIM FANDANGO? WHERE'S MEB?!

good thing he got cut and is now the laughing stock of ESEA

man, look at all of this shit stirring

last thing I heard about mosbeck was that he was playing on an alt to win Open

ahahahaha

Is Homeless even still around? I thought they died out

Literally impossible in every eSport

lol

That was tried with #tf2pug and we changed the bot in tf2.pug.na (we used the same bot that TF2Mix has now), and that died out really quickly

After reading that pastebin, shitty deal for my boy Nick

http://modernservantleader.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/seagull-manager-angry-bird-w425x282.jpg

Maybe TF2Center (or whatever it's called) is more your thing.

Anyways, I decided to jump in on here and talk about some of the current issues (from a operational perspective) and the reasoning for some things.

Perhaps the biggest issue that I notice right now with the channel is that the sub bot is non-existent in the channel. This is currently something out of my control because the only person with the root password is jaybenaduchi (I've appeared to have lost it along the way between computer upgrades). I need root access to turn on the necessary components that make the sub bot work.

With the whole Gamesurge vs. Quakenet vs. GeeksIRC, I could go on about that forever, but I can give some explanation to why we went with GeeksIRC. The biggest reason we had was the support from the IRC server operators. With Gamesurge, we were getting very little support regarding consecutive connections, adding additional connections, among other things. GeeksIRC was able to make everything seamless, and brought some really nice features to boot like unlimited message sending (we were able to decrease the amount of bot messengers to just the one), default hidden IPs, 24/7 support access, etc.

As Lange already mentioned, the default IP hiding was essential to stop a vector of people grabbing IP addresses and DDoSing people who played on the channel. When I was active with pug.na, I tried to make it a priority to protect the IP address of our players as DDoS was becoming more and more prevalent.

Another big factor in choosing GeeksIRC over Quakenet was the compatibility with the bot between Gamesurge and GeeksIRC. A couple simple changes to where it connected to and we were able to start everything up fine. Converting the bot to work with Quakenet (according to my knowledge at the time) was going to be a lot of work and time to get it to play nice with the Quakenet auth system. I simply did not have the time and energy to undertake a task like that, as I was a college student dealing with many personal things outside of school.

Finally, the big thing that convinced me to make the switch was the other channels who were moving from Gamesurge to GeeksIRC. It was simply too big to ignore that a sizable amount of the pugging community (HL was a big thing) would be moving over. It was kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of deal for me.

Now I'm not saying I handled everything well, or that I'm even getting all of my information correct. At the time, I believed that it was the right way to go (and let's face it, the channel was on a decline before we made the move to GeeksIRC). From an operating point of view, I still view it to be the right way to go. I can see from a players point of view that it could be viewed as a mistake.

For a long time, #tf2.pug.na has been stagnant and on the decline. We didn't have the dedicated staff. We didn't have the time to put into making it better, and we didn't have the drive to improve everything.

I'm glad that cyzer is willing to put the effort into making #tf2.pug.na a better place, but I don't know if it will work out in the end of it all. This is nothing against cyzer (I wouldn't have given it to him if he wasn't able to do the work), but there is A LOT of work that needs to be done to make it what it once was. I'm hoping that I get proven wrong here.

who?

The search is over, cyzer is your new overlord.

nah