I am extremely tilted by the election result of another country and I have come to this forum to complain.

Please acknowledge.

Absolutely not I have not watched a single game of his for months, I thought he was a tank/dps player?

Also does anyone else have the feeling they will be telling their Grandchildren that they played TF2 against Numlocked, who will be remembered in 50 years time as "The Pele of OW"?

Concept is really good, putting the intricacies of eSports/Gaming aside, Geographically we're inclined to root for local teams. Let's say for UK for example, the London team will be the one UK people follow. I mean I find OW boring to watch but I root for former TF2 players, but a potential spectator can potentially get behind a team represented by geographic location.

This has the potential to be something but we will see how it goes. All I can say is I am happy for the many talented TF2 players finally getting a financial reward from gaming, even if it's not TF2.

I elected to arrive before LAN and stay a few days after LAN, maybe some local yanks will be able to help you :D

Just some pub players opinion, it's no more retarded than half the posts on here.

This season is great, I hope the gunslinger stays unbanned forever

What is the cost of the Holiday Inn per night (without any special deals for the LAN). On the internet the one in Santa Ana approximately 1.5k away is around £150 (1.2 exchange rate to $180 roughly) for 3 nights over the weekend, booking in advanced. Of course, there are other alternatives, I seen a guest house nearby as well but no website for it, I wonder what the cost of B&B's and other low cost accommodations are locally.

Shuttletolax.com tells me a 6 passenger shuttle would cost approx £80 for a return between 5 or 6 people (Brits may arrive together if we're all booking the dirt cheap Norwegian Air flight from Gatwick to arrive at 16:10 local time, departing LAX around 5.30 and taking approximately 2 hours to get there accounting for traffic). That is around £13.33 each for both ways, not terrible.

I also looked at travelling on the Metro using Metro Trip Planner, whilst it isn't suitable for going to and from the Airport, after the event I want to visit some places, it looks fairly affordable, would people say this is a reliable website for information?

I assume as we're in a built up area lots of places to go including cheap supermarkets.

Will we be able to go to the Scientology Church across the road and mock them?

Thanks.

Will the deal be for the weekend only? I am not flying all the way to California to spend the weekend just at a LAN, I will want to stay a few days longer to see some of the sights.

Keep playing if it's fun?

LOL what a fucking thread

Strongly considering going, can anyone recommend cheapest accommodation options in the area?

Almost as if different people enjoy different parts of the game and comparatively this scene is tiny.

Muuq / Mr Epic

Truer words have never been spoken.

P1 - A good point, but also to think about is what they settle on and how they intend to migrate the playerbase. If they do not communicate with existing leagues they will find it hard to migrate the playerbase from the league, to wherever they wish to place them (ESL, MM, wheever). Otherwise it's solely down to the leagues discretion if they want to get involved, I think last time I interacted with an ETF2L on the topic they kind of just expected the playerbase for their league to rise automatically without any sort of intervention, after I finished face-palming it did make me realize league admins should be involved in the discussion since they provide the platform the competitive community largely exists from.

P2 - Agreed and well summarized. Fact 2 of the people went to Valve originally have gone to another game in search of a professional gaming career shows their commitment to the project and their belief it will actually work, unless there is something I am missing here. I don't hold it against them but it's telling.

P3 - Maintenance of aforementioned projects would I am sure, involve a new SBU and that will incur a whole new set of staff costs and costs around that. Whatever happens, it means an increased budget.

I echo your sentiments, the idea of cash injection of the size needed to boost TF2's profile to the sought after level is so unrealistic, it's almost absurd we're trying. Keep trying though, it's commendable, even if at best MM will incur the same sort of effect to the game as a previously successful Newbie Cup. Even something of the level of the HCC would be an achievement.