Formal reports for cukei and other known and blatant cheaters have already been submitted, and I know that because I did it myself over a month ago, maybe even longer. Still haven't been banned.

I don't like how medics holding last can just bait near spawn and never ever die or force to a sac. I know there are workarounds and possibly better holds, but for every other map in the pool, baiting your medic next to spawn isn't nearly as viable as it is on sultry. Right now, all 3 doors into last face the same direction, which really limits the vision/spam angles of the attacking team. I think if the leftmost door into last on this map were diagonal or something, that would allow the attacking team to get more vision and see towards the point/spam the gun from an angle other than dungeon. Another option would be giving the attacking team some sort of high ground advantage on one of the doors, since dungeon and left are both significantly lower than where the defenders are playing, and top right is way too small/spammable to be a viable door most of the time. Maybe you could make top right feel more safe for the attacking team somehow, or give the door some high ground in order to allow the attackers to punish defenders who walk too close.

I really don't want this map to become another one where the creators say "I'm finished" and never change anything significant ever again. There are still problems that need to be addressed, and if there aren't updates, it should be removed from the pool like reckoner was.

What do you think the solution is? Do you even think there's a problem to be solved here?

This is provably untrue.

Also, a standard in the AC admins' mind of "beyond a reasonable doubt" instead of "beyond any reasonable doubt" would smooth this process a lot. But this post by exa is basically internal confirmation, once again, that RGL is not going to change anything / respond in any meaningful way to the requests that sprung out of the recent sampha situation. It's what I expected. Something needs to change, and everyone agrees that something needs to change, except, of course, the admins.

It doesn't have to be a full-time salary or anything. I would be more than willing to decrease prize money so that an AC admin can get like 50 bucks a month or something.

2/19/2024 2/19/2024 Failure to Submit Demos: 1st Offense
3/1/2024 3/15/2024 Failure to Submit Demos: 2nd Offense
3/25/2024 6/26/2024 Failure to Submit Demos: 3rd Offense
6/26/2024 6/25/2028 Cheating - First Offense

Very happy that the ban is for 4 years. I definitely support longer bans for cheating.

It's not so much about getting an "answer" as it was voicing my frustration at this whole thing. I asked him whether he cared about cheaters in his league and all he could muster was to tell me to "talk to my team leader," as if I hadn't already done that. And then he told me to "have fun!" with organizing a private playoffs for other main playoffs teams.

I really think he's indifferent about cheating in his league; nothing changed after elijah, and after this is finished, nothing will change again. And cukei and cepi (della's ex-friend) still haven't been banned even though I submitted a ticket a long time ago. You can frame that as me screaming and him being chad or whatever, but what I see is total indifference; he has no desire to change, in any way, the way the league is run. And no public statement will change that for me (even though he probably won't make one). I'll believe that change will happen when I see it happen. If being sarcastic is how arcadia chose to respond to genuine concern and frustration about a serious issue in DMs, it makes me wonder how likely our (or anyone's) concerns are to be addressed internally.

Main Team Joint Statement #2

The RGL main playoffs teams have been patiently waiting since our last statement for RGL to communicate with us about a verdict for the cheating reports that were sent over two weeks ago. We were also willing to delay playoffs, as was offered to the advanced teams during the elijah situation, so that the AC team would have ample time to investigate yen and sampha and reach a fair verdict. We were threatened with disqualification from this season’s playoffs, forfeiting all prize money and medals, for refusing to play against a proven cheater (banned on UGC) and a highly suspect player. That is a sacrifice we are willing to make in order to uphold the integrity of this season’s playoffs. Admins correctly responded by offering to delay playoffs until Thursday of this week. So, that's what our boycott has achieved so far.

We would have thought that after the elijah situation, where admins failed to ban a blatant cheater for days right before playoffs, league admins would learn to communicate more and hear the concerns of players about likely cheaters in their league. However, nothing has changed: admins were dead silent in our support tickets, instead telling us that we never should have made the evidence public in the first place. You will remember, of course, that the only reason admins were so quick to deal with elijah and delay playoffs is because dippidy posted the evidence publicly.

Because of this continued failure on the part of the league, the playoffs main teams are going ahead with our original plan to boycott RGL’s playoffs and instead play a GGL playoffs (hosted by giblert) as was planned during the elijah fiasco. If, however, RGL renders public verdicts about sampha and yen before the delayed date of 10:30 P.M. on Thursday, we will play in RGL’s playoffs, per our original agreement.

As players who pay to participate in the league season-to-season, we have come up with a few suggestions to prevent something like this from happening a third time.

Public POV demos
The POV demos that are collected by admins should be publicly available on a drive or a section of the RGL website, so that anyone can download and investigate players for themselves. Additionally, players should be able to request POV demos (within reason) from another TL in their division.

Subsequent demo requests after one strike
If a player fails to submit requested POV demos once, we agree that they should be required to submit POV demos for every match for the remainder of the season.

Communication
Without timely communication on the part of RGL admins, we believe the underlying cause of these types of incidents will never be solved. Therefore, we propose that more resources need to be directed towards anticheat. One possible solution that RGL should consider is a reduction in prize money in order to pay for more anticheat. Also, there should be an estimated timeline given regarding anticheat reports. If there are pending reports on players competing in a division’s playoffs, RGL should be more willing to delay playoffs to give the AC team the time it needs, and prioritize the reports of players competing in playoffs.

Without reasonable expectations of blatant cheaters being banned in a timely manner, reported players being investigated within a reasonable amount of time, and communication between admins and team leaders, these problems will only happen again.

Note: Since we wrote this post, one of the suspected players was banned for a failure to submit demos (3rd offense). We don't believe that changes why we are making this joint statement. We plan on discussing how to proceed in light of this ban.

Signed,

greg
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Chill
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Hami
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Chunk
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it should be single elim 8 teams with a bo5 grand finals

MAIN TEAM JOINT STATEMENT

We, the playoffs teams of RGL 6s Main, believe there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the integrity of playoffs will be compromised if they proceed as scheduled. Therefore, we hereby boycott RGL playoffs (and will host our own playoffs against each other instead) unless RGL takes action by Tuesday, March 26th.

Signed, the team leaders of:

MEELO
OPIUM
P6
R.E.A.L.
cuake live
ta.

updates

please fix the website constantly crashing and breaking

BREAKING NEWS: ADMINS JUST REVERSED THE DECISION AND APOLOGIZED

The admins who decided this are apparently IM and Main highlander players. They also seem to have made the decision before STVs were public, meaning they came to this season-altering conclusion from watching the CAST VOD. I cannot overstate how ridiculous this is. RGL needs to make a clear public statement; this is literally one of the most ridiculous things league admins have ever done.

The current config is excellent. People didn't like it at first but I think most do now.

Also, please fix the issue of losing elo win you win a pug/gaining elo when you lose.