So what are the chances we get ESEA-M back on the table for next season, if we keep growing open like this?

Kairu is a mouth-breathing pyro main and uses it as his excuse to go pyro as much as possible

I predict taters to miss rollouts every time.

One of the engies in the medic clip apparently. I think I remember being one of them, but I'm not in vid description, and it was 2 years ago so who knows.

Varies on the jump. If you include the first part of the video Mini linked, anywhere from 5 minutes to 3 hours. Harder part is coming up with something creative, tbh.

Can't connect to a localhost server apparently, using client to host "Knucklesdoesntsuck"

Nice frags and all... but that's all it is. BBall is about both DM and movement. You should showcase both in a video, otherwise its just like making a frag movie out of MGE clips.

Me :(

You already are, that's why you've cut knuckles.

Prepare, it's time to abuse stupid unlocks for sunshine week.

I assume they've fixed queueing? Back when ESEA was giving away keys, I tried to play it with friends, but queueing would sometimes cause your teammates to not be in the same game, or not on the same team. It was kind of stupid.

Human did seem really easy though. Or maybe we weren't able to find good Vamp players, but it seemed any bit of coordination in humans could shut down vampires fairly easily.

Sounds like a script that changes crosshair, but is using an invalid named crosshair, so instead of a crosshair you get the purple/black broken texture box in its place.

Apparently there was some upper level e-mail with the inclusion of several big community members around the time Lange quit that went plain unanswered.

I ain't chasing any pipe dream hoping for Valve support. I'm just stating lots of stuff is broken and we can't just try to be "more similar to pub play".

Thanks for formatting. I'll actually read this one.

I don't feel I need to explain BFB. You don't exchange ability to cleanup frags though, because you get in so damn fast then get out just as fast. You don't need to be 'counterable' to be overpowered.

As said elsewhere in the thread, Soda popper is almost a direct upgrade. With +reload, it is 100% more dps/burst/everything. Without it, the dps is very similar, but at the same time gives you the ability to completely shit on any shotgunless soldier. You can't really touch him without hitscan.

Cola: turn a corner and 1shot a bitch. Abused the hell out of this when it was allowed in highlander. Would probably be even more effective in a format without a heavy and a sentry.

Milk is really good. Even 1v1. If you try to pull it out in the fight, you're doing it wrong. You throw it as you engage before damage is effective, and as long as you hit your shots, you can potentially swing any 1v1, or potentially 1v2 to a win. Drop it on more than one target and make a bombing soldier your worst nightmare. Throw it on people in a push, and now they can't really push outside a solo-uber. It's really really good.

Sandman should stay banned. It's a highskill weapon in theory, but in actuality, it's spam a ball through a choke every 20 seconds, and if you get a hit, your roamer gets a free kill on a combo class. Works better on some maps than others. Bean a soldier on top of snakewater mid, get a free kill for your soldier. It's really strong. If it required you to hit or always retrieve your ball it might be better, but with your ability to spam it in stalemates on cooldown it's just stupid.

Wrap assassin probably upgrade over stock, but I'd rather have the basher myself. It would only be a nuisance item, but maybe that's why it was banned in the first place.

Run launcher to mid, both meds die, swap to mangler. Outside of a push it is just a launcher with infinite ammo (which is significant, especially on maps where you have to travel far to find ammo). It also has the ability to spam a fairly high damage rocket with no fall-off that sets people on fire. It's pretty much a straight upgrade in stalemates, and the downside is only to sentries. The reload issue is only on first rocket and if you tend to die quickly (stalemate into roamer engage?) doesn't come up.

You can't honestly think turning a corner with 3 rockets and killing someone is balanced, can you? In a close up fight it's like a rocket launcher with infinite ammo in clip, and it can do some impossibly hard to stop bombs. Even highlander bans this weapon.

LL is allowed. Use it if you want it.

Whip gets heavies to mid. Lets run snipers to mid to counter him. No thanks.

I agree it's upsetting, but that's Valve's fault. If weapons and classes could be in a proper balance by default, it would be amazing, and make it much easier to get into competitive without a wall of information and rules. However, many weapons are just way too strong.

I did not say he was not contributing. I did not say he wasn't effective. I did not say he was causing his team to do worse. What I said was the fact that he's on pyro didn't actually mean too much. I suppose I mocked him for missing a few kills too, so that was unneeded, but my point was: most of what he did he would accomplish by being soldier, as well. I'm not saying pyro is shit, I'm saying it didn't really matter much in this game. It's not some meta-game revolution.

I understand it isn't effective. That's what I said. It's damn hard getting a suicide through choke regardless of pyro presence if the team is ready for you. Playing pyro doesn't stop the team from working a flank pick however. And if he's on a flank rotation because you pressured, you can get your suicide through choke (if that's what you wanted) while that happened. So yes, pyro is good for defensively holding chokes, I'm not trying to deny that.

Please do. I understand that it will change the opponents playstyle, that you have to play more defensively to avoid trying to push into a pyro, but the only reason you've provided as to why "pyro caused the wins" is:

So watching the demo:

First half Ma3la pyro did basically nothing. He could have been pocketed as spy and had the same impact on the game. He can't get in, his spam is less effective, has lower hp, and needs to be relatively close for optimal damage. Even with gunboat soldiers feeding him rockets, it was really low impact. Especially on last defense, he missed like two kills because he aims flame like a silver highlander pyro.

Second half he got a flank on the medic on mid, but again, the fact that he's pyro is meaningless. Soldier would have accomplished the same thing. It seems grape makes more of an impact because elevate is playing incredibly scared of his pyro. There isn't really any reason to fear a pyro pushing into you. Just kill him.

As for the pyro team winning rounds... correlation doesn't mean causation. I wasn't in the game so I can only state conjecture, but through spectating, the pyros didn't see to have much impact on the outcome, and probably would have just done more on soldier.