Without going too much into it how do you differenciate a roamer solly from a pocket solly for example? Or you don't? Because if you're only getting information from the logs alone, a roaming solly can have half the kills and dmg of the pocket but be much more on point with bombs and contributing to the team a lot for example.

I definitely think you shouldn't do a global ranking based on logs.tf. For example tf2pickups logs are all named accordingly so it would be easy to filtrate them in order to do a independent ranking for the site for example.

Which is why dota has ranked and non ranked games, altough the non ranked games still have an internal mmr, it's bound to be different as you are not expected to tryhard as you would in ranked matches.

As far as I know tf2pickup doesn't have any association with tf2center and we at tf2pickup already have an internal ranking system also developed by Jon and our devs a while ago, but it's not public. I reckon this ranking would be independent for both sites. Doesn't make any sense to use the same rank if there are not even the same skill restrictions or rules (ie mumble and communication is always mandatory, etc.. for tf2pickup)

I know it's good we expand our horizons and remove class limits and unlocks restrictions to try new things, but I think it has been tried before (particularly class limits) hence why its banned, I just can't see a game with 2 heavies or 2 engineers being any fun to watch.

Is it inherently bad that heavies are limited to 1 for example? Haven't we tested it dozens of times to come to the conclusion that the game is better off with that restriction? This is what I'm wondering, are all the years of experience, experiments and rulemaking void just because Valve doesn't like the 6s metagame?

I can see this not being true for unlocks, because some of them get banned without even seeing competitive usage at all, but that's not true for class limits, we have tried a lot in that regard, hell, I remember seeing 2 demos, guess why we don't see it anymore? Because it didn't work out.

I like this one, much more easier to understand. But you need to add some ranks in the middle. Or you can mix both, and using csgo logic of 3-5 levels for each "step", ex:

Mercenary Ranks
1 Unremarkable Mercenary
2 Scarcely Lethal Mercenary
3 Mildly Menacing Mercenary
4 Somewhat Threatening Mercenary
Soldier Ranks
5 Uncharitable Soldier
6 Notably Dangerous Soldier
7 Sufficiently Lethal Soldier
8 Truly Feared Soldier
Grizzled Veteran Ranks
9 Spectacularly Lethal Grizzled Veteran
10 Gore-Spattered Grizzled Veteran
11 Wicked Nasty Grizzled Veteran
12 Positively Inhumane Grizzled Veteran
Primeval Warrior Ranks
13 Totally Ordinary Primeval Warrior
14 Face-Melting Primeval Warrior
15 Rage-Inducing Primeval Warrior
16 Server-Clearing Primeval Warrior
17 Legendary Primeval Warrior
Australian
18 Australian

Is this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D

I didn't get to see any bad reactions from the people asked, actually I think virtually everyone active in the community was represented there, save for some exceptions.

What would be the reasons to sign a letter like that and then not want it to be public? It's a fact based re-tell of a story we know all too well.

When I signed it I was under the impression it was gonna be an open letter, actually, that was one of the main reasons I signed it for, because if it didn't create any fuss around it I knew it wouldn't really be effective or even worth doing, I even offered to "advertise" it on our site/youtube channel when and if they decided to make it public, but that never happened obviously

Which makes no sense because it voices exactly the community concerns and aspirations.

I would get the "we don't wanna put them in a tough spot" excuse, because it comes off kinda in a "take it or leave it" tone. but I dont really get that first excuse.

yahud has been my favorite for a long time, this is a great version, will be using it now. Is MvM fully supported?

Just fyi, ETF2L last HL and 6v6 season had increased numbers compared to the previous ones (6v6 season for example had 296 teams). TF2Pickup is averaging something like 800 pickups a month, etc..

American scene is in a dire situation because you got 3 leagues for such a small playerbase, 2 of them paid leagues. It only divides the community. How the hell do you sustain that kind of stuff with such a player base? Even esea got rid of main because there was not a big enough player pool.

Regarding the letter he mentioned, I would have hoped it would be an open letter, I mean if Star can make a video and get a patch out a few weeks later, we can hold them to something at least. We have youtube channels with thousands of subs, big community hubs, a lot of power to our reach to get their attention.

We're not gonna get Valve's attention by playing the good quiet boy, I figured by now you guys already are aware of valve structure and how bad they are at communicating with their community if communicating at all. U can complain about reddit all u want but the truth is that the shit they stir and all the tears over on CSGO and Dota subreddits gets them a long way, tons of patches/updates/explanations/etc by Valve were provoked by the community. If you don't hold them to something then you're sure not to have anything your way.

This is valve we are talking about, as much as I love the games they make and their philosophies, their interaction and communication with the community is pretty abysmal.

Well, it's not like they didn't finish production more than 1 year ago.

I think the silence works well but not in the whole movie, some single soundbites could be much more expressive using some existing voice bits from the characters, for a few small scenes it shouldn't take more than a few weeks, I'm not talking about 15 mins dialogs but 2-3 seconds sound bites on some scenes. It just feels lacking with complete silence.

yeah I liked the video but the whole "let's" not use voiceovers at all #sodeep was a bit disappointing. Even if they couldn't get valve to get the voice actors on board they could have made a smarter use of the existing voicelines

The new items

http://www.trade.tf/items/updates

??

As lamqta said the problem we have atm is with devs, our current devs currently have other priorities and dont have as much time as they want, so we would need some devs familiar with the NA scene and able to adapt the site to your scene, shouldn't be too hard because the backend/entire site structure is already there for the EU pickups.

tf2center is very casual, you can't really call a tf2center game a pickup, even if it has mumble required. I messaged lamqta about this asking what the current status on the NA tf2pickup.net is. I think this is what you guys really need, also we support HL, BBall and ultiduo pickups which Im sure you would like as well

PotD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mftCy33W_r4 [60fps]