am I the only person who thinks mangachu is good :D

well yeah but what we had here was a tied game scenario (3-3) that was decided by DDoS
regardless of the pause rule the match result is dumb
also as shown by the screenshot of in game chat Toon Gang acknowledged that it could have been DDoS and clearly it was a case of no fucks given

[edit] here's the screenshot

if nothing else it's awful sportsmanship

is that how it's gonna roll? or do people have an interest in doing a draft among comp TF2 players to make it interesting?

do we have a headcount yet? if we have enough for 2-4 teams we could make it happen

you're not exactly denying that you guys planned on DDoSing though...you played the match fairly yes. you didn't tell bape to DDoS over mumble yes...but that doesn't mean that this wasn't premeditated. including the crappy bunny/bullet excuse.

Regardless, TWSS I don't understand how you're so confident that bape is not DDoSing. you take a very adamant stand on this, and I don't understand why you think bape is so innocent, especially with all these people coming out about you guys. it just makes me think you have something to hide.

like if someone accused my teammate of cheating, hacking, DDoSing, whatever, my first reaction would be "really? how do you know? that's crazy...but maybe he's been doing it without me knowing". I might trust my teammate, but I'd still leave the possibility open because it's not like you'd actually have any way of knowing whether or not he did it.

your first reaction was "there was no way he did it -- it had to be bullet" like you had planned that reaction of deflecting the blame ahead of time

has anyone started putting together teams yet?
dibs on Bdonski haha! can't wait to see you there bud

I know a lot of people have been looking forward to this so spread the word!

this forum was built on the principles of Gotfrag, the greatest website the world has ever known. recognizing that natf2 was shit, enigma in his all-knowing wisdom resurrected this haven for TF2ers, and I'll be damned if we change because of mustardoverlord

they're not that smart...they bought programs that cost a couple hundred dollars. we are talking about three 16 year olds here

yea synchro what you said doesn't make much sense

we just need to establish a culture of teams staying together.

anyways I talked to Alec and he wasn't hit by denial of service attack.
it lasts like 3-5 minutes so if its 30 seconds...just no

sorry yes vortex you're right it's not hard to prove that you're getting DDoSed but that's not what Toon Gang is asking. toon gang is saying prove it's one of us and we will do something about it.

also proving that you were DDoSed in an ESEA match won't overturn it or get it replayed because you can't prove that it was anyone on the other team.

however, that being said, bape is lying through his teeth and TWSS is being shady as fuck right now. we just need to keep a close eye on their matches/scrims.

the only reason that anyone should have any doubt right now is because bunny is on blacky's team, and even then this isn't the first case of bape. DDoS accusations don't come out of nowhere -- there's a reason people think it's bape.

again, DDoS is almost impossible to prove. you're asking us to do something impossible. blackymonster was not prepared with the proper software to track the ip, and we can't go back in time to find out if he was getting DDoSed...

secondly, DDoS is a federal offense. why the hell would bape admit it to you? you're just some kid on the internet that he plays video games with. he's not going to jail just because you asked him.

sorry you're right that's unfair of me. but hey, if you knew you were playing with a cheater, would you continue playing with him for the rest of the season?

from the stream, courtesy of raisinbran24:

Raisinbran24: twss would you use a sub if you found out bape ddoses
Twssler: If we had a sub
» our backups are MIA
Raisinbran24: so you'd willingly play with a cheater?
Twssler: How do you know hes a cheater?
» do you have Proof?
» or are you just ranting
Raisinbran24: its a hypothetical question
» would you willingly play with a cheater
» if you knew your teammate was a cheater
Twssler: Nope
» but none of my teamates are cheaters
Raisinbran24: that you know of
» right now
» so when we find out that bape cheats by tomorrow
» you're gonna cut him
Twssler: Hey if you can catch him in the act by all means let me know
Raisinbran24: and use a sub
» well nobody can catch him in the act
» if you guys already ddosed blackymonster to get to IM
» but we can go back and find the proof
Twssler: How do you know he ddosed blacky?
Raisinbran24: gl the rest of the season twss
Twssler: TY

yeah I mean basically what it comes down to is bape was being fishy as fuck. we asked him straightforward questions on his stream, and he denied things like knowing bullet, knowing how to DDoS, and more. he is either a compulsive liar or he has something to hide. plus after unpausing because he "needed to go" an hour later he's back on streaming because he wanted to "clear his name". nobody wants to clear their name unless they do something wrong. he gave us too many tips that he's full of shit, and I have too many people saying that bape DDoSed their scrims or matches or whatever.

apparently he afked in the match a couple times so I'm gonna make a recording and see if it corresponds to blacky's disconnects.

point is, nobody likes a cheater. you shouldn't be on a team with a cheater. bape has made is clear that he intends to leave Toon Gang when the season is over. so his teammates have an incentive to "not know what's going on" because bape is getting them a ticket to IM, and they've technically already qualified so now it doesn't matter cause Blacky's team had to take the fall and Toon Gang won't have to play with Bape anymore.

don't associate yourself with cheaters. dont pug with cheaters. don't scrim with cheaters.

@Toon Gang: you claim that we need to provide evidence of Bape cheating, but you know that it's difficult, if not impossible to obtain. are you really just going to sit there and keep on playing dumb?

cant you just go to twitch app > browse all games > TF2 ?

Thats what i do although the app sucks for me too

hey bape why do you need OpenVPN GUI?

http://i.imgur.com/pvIMQD9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pvIMQD9.jpg

http://openvpn.se/

photo courtesy of bambam