BLoodSireVery much dislike the highest rank culminating in "Australian."
I don't think the name is that bad, but in my opinion it would make a lot more sense if "Australian" was only the 4th highest rank.
EDIT: Shoutout to Tommunist
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BLoodSireVery much dislike the highest rank culminating in "Australian."
I don't think the name is that bad, but in my opinion it would make a lot more sense if "Australian" was only the 4th highest rank.
EDIT: Shoutout to Tommunist
SpaceCadetYou have to be braindead to think that what the police were doing was using lethal force. They were physically restraining a person resisting arrest.
So angrily proclaiming that you've done nothing wrong and pulling your arm away when a cop tries to grab it counts as resisting arrest and probably means that, at any moment, you are liable to pull out a concealed firearm and start blasting indiscriminately, but when the medical examiner states that the actions of the police lead directly to a man's death it somehow doesn't count as deadly force in your view?
They used force and someone died as a result. That is about as simple as it gets. In what fucking universe could it be considered anything other than deadly force?
Even if it wasn't actually a chokehold (which it most certainly was) it doesn't matter cause the police were also pressing him against the ground so he couldn't breath regardless
"He died because of 'compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police,' according to medical examiner spokeswoman Julie Bolcer."
SpaceCadetboppetSpaceCadetstuff
First of all what is convenient about criticizing the police? Wouldn't it be more convenient to claim that the police did nothing wrong and thus there is not massive, systemic problem that needs to be addressed?
"At this point, the police have 1 objective, and that is to subdue the criminal and get him in handcuffs before he can do anything dangerous."
Before he can do anything dangerous? You mean like selling untaxed cigarettes? Even resisting arrest (and I think you have to be biased to claim that he was resisting arrest) is only a misdemeanor, but honestly I don't even think that's relevant. The police should only use force in the manner they did if they know someone's life is in danger. I don't fucking care, if you can't arrest a petty criminal (and selling untaxed cigarettes is pretty fucking small time) without killing him then you're either a complete fucking psycho, incredibly incompetent or both. I honestly don't understand how people can defend this shit.
I don't care if criminals actually lie about not being able to breathe (I don't really understand why you think this is some kind of trick), sometimes they have to be given the benefit of the doubt. More importantly, If you're choking someone and pressing them onto a concrete surface stomach first AND you hear them struggle to get out the words "I can't breathe" you should probably be smart enough to realize that they really can't breathe.
I really hate the hidden weapon argument, because it could apply to anyone in any situation. The idea that police officers are in constant danger from people pulling hidden weapons doesn't seem to have much basis in reality either. Last year the number of police officers killed by firearms dropped to a 54 year low (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/30/law-enforcement-deaths/4247393/) so its not like they're dropping like flies out there.
Ah yes, the personal fitness argument. You have to get yourself in good shape psychically or how will you survive police brutality?
Do you really not think the police could have handled the situation any better?
SpaceCadetWhen you resist arrest you are inviting trouble for yourself. In these cases they got death.
When an officer, or in the NYC case a group of officers, tells you to do something. Just fucking listen.
The time to tell your side will come but not until they have removed you from being a threat. It is really plain and simple to understand.
I really don't understand why people insist on not holding police officers accountable for their actions.
why can citizens be blamed for "resisting", but police officers cannot be blamed for what is clearly excessive force?
Do you really think police should be able to order you to do something and then immediately kill you for not complying with their demands? I know it sounds like a ridiculous question, but that does seem to be what you're saying.
Do you really think a fat, middle aged man selling loose cigarettes is enough of a "threat" to justify the use of deadly force
There was a lot of grey area in the Ferguson case, but there is absolutely no question that the police officer who killed Eric Garner should have been indicted.
From the beginning I knew the authorities were searching for a way to let Pantaleo off. I guess maybe they found one, but I struggle to imagine what it could be.
The only thing I can think of is that maybe the prosecutors emphasized Garner's poor health, while brazenly ignoring the medical examiner's report and attacking the credibility of the man who recorded the video (even though the video covers the whole incident from start to finish and pretty much speaks for itself).
District attorney's are well known for protecting police from prosecution, but honestly I think this crosses the lines into actual corruption.
eee im sure everyone is gonna be fine waiting for the cops when dipshit breaks into a house and waves a 44 around
You could just make a convincing argument for why violence is morally wrong and then he'd be like "damn, I never thought of it like that" and leave a changed man.
marmadukeGRYLLSi'm pretty sure i'd rather get shot to death than stabbed.
Well I'd rather get stabbed to death than be flattened by a steam roller.
Just sayin'
thmpsni recommend not posting stuff like this cause the tf2 community isnt mature enough to actually discuss it
Speak for yourself you poop head butt face.
Harbinger
In all seriousness though, weren't those the autopsy findings from the coroner that the Brown family hired? I thought that the public coroner and other medical examiners found different bullet trajectories through the body, most of them suggesting conflicting scenarios.
Also, didn't they find the kid's blood in the car and gunshot residue on his hands from close proximity to the barrel muzzle?
I'm not trying to make a point I promise. I have no opinion on this case because I'm not dumb enough to believe I know what really happened. And btw nobody but like 4 people KNOW what really happened.
P.S. Oh and I thought that the prosecution and defense agree on jurors from a very large pool of potentials? Or is that for the trial jury not the grand jury?
Only one wound was suffered at close range, the rest (including the one that most likely killed him) were sustained at 150+ ft away.
Also, as far as I know all three of the autopsies performed reach the same conclusion.
I have to say, seeing someones phone get stolen live on stream from the perspective of the phone was rather strange.
timesthelegallimitCops started saying something on speaker then he started running, 1 or 2 min later it cutoff.
Pretty sure he got teargassed and ran away.
Some people are saying his camera got stolen.
GET THESE GUYS A MEDIC!!!!!!!!!
Thought this game had been canceled a while ago. I recently found out that not only is it alive, but it is due to be released in early November.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/274940/
Seems like it will be pretty good.