im not saying it's a good idea necessarily i was referring to why i said he was an elitist fuckwit and i did in a earlier post address why removal of "hidden" mechanics like bunny hopping or ctapping can be beneficial, but there are other better options i think
im asking if he's dumb becuase he doesn't seem to realize why that what he said gives off the impression that he thinks he better or smarter than people
also stop straw manning me send

dumbing things down to appeal to idiots is never a good idea.
hello are you dumb

send is the only person who has responded to me
toads did what everyone seems to do blame valve for not supporting competitive earlier which isnt surprising at all because tf2 wasn't designed with competitive in mind
now that valve is trying to support comp they;re doing a pretty bad job i'll agree, but my point is the community was killing itself before valve even came along the game mode and community just haven't attracted players
people have known about comp when i first started playing like 5 or 6 years ago before i even started playing i knew about comp, but it didnt seem appealing alll the pubbers i talked to knew about comp they tried it and didnt like it and the few who did like it didn't really like 6s they liked HL
why do you expect valve to put so much effort into helping comp to thrive when they're not really evidence to suggest it will grow to the size of dota or cs it would seem a lot more profitable for them to just continue appealing to pubbers who like the "memes" because they have to invest less money and they're a guaranteed payout
and the comp community isn't a large portion of the games playerbase i the invite finals get like 1k viewers thats 2 percent of the tf2 community turning up for the biggest match of the season

no your elitist becuase you think your better or smarter than everyone else the fact that you dont like overwatch has nothing to do with it

i like how everyone whos responded to me has shown the elitist attitude that i was talking about
it's like you people want this succeed but you don't want to make any changes yourself or compromises

i do it just for u buddy

tf2 has no strategic depth
comparison between tf2 and overwatch is honestly retarded tf2s skill comes almost entirely from mechanics whereas overwatch internationally dumbed down some mechanics to allow other components of skill to thrive,granted a lot of it was probably just to bring in more casual players who don't want to learn nuanced mechanics like bunny hopping, rocket jumping, surfing, and air strafing.
I enjoy those mechanics too, but the problem with them is there almost secrets to alot of new players, people have literally made it to invite without knowing what ctapping i don't think new players want to be hindered because they don't know about "secret mechanics". So the options are remove them entirely or try to compose lengthy ingame tutorials to teach people the mechanics they chose option one and i can understand why.

humble brag my dude?

I'm kinda getting sick of people blaming valve for the competitive community to take off.
I don't know about now, but 1 or 2 years ago 6s was fairly balanced bad broken unlocks were banned etc and people knew about the community they're just not interested.
Everyone seems to fail to grasp that tf2 comp doesn't appeal to casual or less competitive players.

-Theres no money so tournaments aren't exciting to watch and there's no incentive to get really good

-Gameplay is really slow. often there's more intensive not to push rather than to push especially at low levels, for example pushing out of the last with a single pick and even ubers can be quite difficult for low level teams, you have to worry about demo traps, backcaps, getting forced too early, etc this results in people being encouraged to sit at last and just counter sack the rest of the team just sits there.

Heck back in the day top teams would literally just sack someone into last over and over agian or have them swap to sniper and wait for them to get a pick. b4nny would have his team setup on second when they had a lead and wait for you to try to push out of last 6v6. This sure sounds like super fast paced exciting gameplay
current high level tf2 is certainly faster paced than it used to be, but it still isn't as fast paced as cs or even overwatch

- and this ones mostly just my opinion but this community has fallen into the same elitest trap that killed quake

i am fearful that my taste in memes will be judged so i shall not tell a soul

slowly come to hate everything about the game and everyone who plays whilst your friends are quitting should make it pretty easy

valve is finally putting all there effort into destroying the comp community god bless

rs3 actually has a much smaller bot population which is nice

tfw runescape has a bigger comp scene then tf2

i distinctly remember playing in mix.na with a young scout main named cookiejake with aspirations of grandeur you literally had a avatar of a cookie scout thing
1:20 PM - ckj: are you tryna get slapped boy
hes threatening me now feelsscaredman