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#949 Donald Trump in World Events
NuzzyfutsNub_DanisheeeNub_Danishnazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google thingshttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party
Do you want to bother to use that yourself, because you'll quickly discover that National Socialism is not Socialism and that the Nazi party were very far right in their political and economic ideals.

The original "Twenty-Five Point Programme" of the party, adopted in 1920, listed several economic demands (including "the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations," "profit-sharing in large enterprises," "extensive development of insurance for old-age," and "land reform suitable to our national requirements"),[13] but the degree to which the Nazis supported this programme in later years has been questioned. (the last part about the loss of support is unsubstantiated.)
So they did away with private business and your trying to tell me that it is a far right country. (the german business owner was in name the owner of the business still, but he didnt control what to produce, where to sell it, how much to sell it for etc.)

posted about 8 years ago
#946 Donald Trump in World Events
eeeNub_Danishnazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google things

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party

posted about 8 years ago
#940 Donald Trump in World Events
GentlemanJonNub_DanishI mean everything we observe with the study of economics points to the fact that a free market is the only system that works and gives the largest number of people the greatest amount of happiness and freedom.Your view of history is facile. The great depression wasn't just something that happened in John Steinbeck novels. If you think the rise of the Nazis had nothing to do with the results of free markets left alone to do their good work think again.

If you think markets are stable or related to social freedom, or produce any kind of natural justice, you are a fool. The larger and freer the market the greater the instability - markets aren't rational, they don't adjust logically, they aren't politically neutral, they do not contain truth. Everything we observe through the study of economics tells us that.

The rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.

nazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally, it's just so complex and based off of so many different peoples decisions of what to buy and what to sell that it seems random and is impossible to measure, just because you cant understand it doesn't mean its random.

posted about 8 years ago
#939 Donald Trump in World Events
sacGentlemanJonThe rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.Go full Khmer Rouge and kill everyone with glasses, for looking too intellectual, build massive pyres of skulls so you got an exotic tourist attraction, and make such a mess that VIETNAM, after the bloodiest civil war they had with more ordinance dropped on them then in WWII had to go in Cambodja and do the humanitarian thing by removing the Khmer Rouge AND fight off China at the same time

Indoctrination is indoctrination whether it's left wing or right wing. you shouldnt be using that word unless you are speaking about the poor sods that got send to "re-education" camps or indoctrinated by fear like the threat of "dissapearing"

the point is its hard for my professors to force there beliefs on me considering the classes are just math while in a class like poli sci your professors beliefs are directly put on you

posted about 8 years ago
#933 Donald Trump in World Events
eeeIf youre already in uni why are you still so dumb?

becuase my major is computer science and minor economics so my proffesors haven't really tried to indoctrinate me into believing your left wing beliefs.

posted about 8 years ago
#929 Donald Trump in World Events
AvastNub_DanishAvastCalling current China communist might be one of the most inaccurate comparisons you could make to a theoretical communist state.I never called said it was currently communist I just listed off socialist and communist nations where you can clearly see the loss of freedom under communist or socialist rule.Nub_Danishwould you like to live in communist russia? china, venezula, north korea? nazi germany? to be a socialist or communist nation you directly give up your freedoms
Don't troll me conbud!!!!

you notice how Venezuela a socialist country is in there.
also im already in university elliiot so that doesnt really work

posted about 8 years ago
#922 Donald Trump in World Events
AvastCalling current China communist might be one of the most inaccurate comparisons you could make to a theoretical communist state.

I never called said it was currently communist I just listed off socialist and communist nations where you can clearly see the loss of freedom under communist or socialist rule.

posted about 8 years ago
#918 Donald Trump in World Events
TERRYCREWSNub_Danishfrom what im reading about china people classified as 'rural' do not have the freedom to choose there position. they're given a area they can work and they can apply to work some in a 'urban' area doing non agricultural work, but thats not really freedom to choose what you want to do if the government decides they want you to stay in the farms you stay. (if you don't work where your designated you can't get a home from your employer, food, or healthcare). So no for these people it's not a matter of there not being infrastructure its them not being able to look for opportunities if the government doesn't approve
Ok let me put it this way. My family is very well educated, with my grandparents being professors at Tsinghua, which is the absolute best university in China. During, and before the Cultural Revolution, they were farmers in Manchuria (not only a relatively rural area, but controlled by the Japanese during WWII. No higher education, and during the CR they were relocated to what were known as Laogai, which were basically prison farms. Can you explain how former low level forced labor workers were able to become highly respected professors at one of the top universities in the world through locked economic/social opportunities?

Did you read what i said i said if farmers or 'rural' people applied then they can move up, but they cannot move up without the governments approval. My original post didn't say you couldn't get rich or accomplish things in communist or socialist countries it said you didn't have the freedom to choose what you do, if your grandparents hadn't been accepted to move then they wouldn't have gotten to go on to do these things.

posted about 8 years ago
#915 Donald Trump in World Events

from what im reading about china people classified as 'rural' do not have the freedom to choose there position. they're given a area they can work and they can apply to work some in a 'urban' area doing non agricultural work, but thats not really freedom to choose what you want to do if the government decides they want you to stay in the farms you stay. (if you don't work where your designated you can't get a home from your employer, food, or healthcare). So no for these people it's not a matter of there not being infrastructure its them not being able to look for opportunities if the government doesn't approve

posted about 8 years ago
#914 Donald Trump in World Events
eeeIsnt nub_danish like 17? Why is he calling someone a college freshman or w/e?

im saying he just likes the idea of free college becuase he is a college student

posted about 8 years ago
#912 Donald Trump in World Events
TERRYCREWSNub_DanishBoomfan56Nub_Danish free market is the only system that works and gives the largest number of people the greatest amount of happiness and freedom.lolwould you like to live in communist russia? china, venezula, north korea? nazi germany? to be a socialist or communist nation you directly give up your freedoms, you don't always lose as much as in say nazi germany but you always lose your ability to choose your economic position, you don't get to work really hard and get really rich becuase your smart and talented and what not.
Idk man, coming from a guy who is Chinese and has spent a significant amount of time there, the economic lock that you're claiming is complete bullshit. Sure there's farmers and shit that'll never advance, but that's because the infrastructure in some places is 3rd world level. Even then the education is compulsory for at least 9 years (so younger generations get education), and students literally compete for scholarships to schools based on their academic performance (i.e: you get to work really hard and get rich because you're smart and talented).

is that hong kong or the rest of china?

posted about 8 years ago
#909 Donald Trump in World Events
Boomfan56Nub_Danish free market is the only system that works and gives the largest number of people the greatest amount of happiness and freedom.lol

would you like to live in communist russia? china, venezula, north korea? nazi germany? to be a socialist or communist nation you directly give up your freedoms, you don't always lose as much as in say nazi germany but you always lose your ability to choose your economic position, you don't get to work really hard and get really rich becuase your smart and talented and what not.

posted about 8 years ago
#907 Donald Trump in World Events
mustardoverlordNub_DanishmustardoverlordNub_DanishmustardoverlordFor those who find my posts to be a tldr, read that letter, it is worth your timeSo there is are 300 economists writing a letter saying hillarys bad and 370 saying trump is bad... They are both bad, I simply believe hillary's is worse.
the 300 economists saying hillary's plan is bad are simply conservatives who want completely open markets and low taxes/regulations. they disagree with her ideologically, simple as that.

the ones saying trump's is bad are not just liberal economists criticizing tax policy of a conservative. they are going against his continual approach of apocalyptic rabble-rousing against statistics and government departments, tea-party style, with no basis in reality. he says things that are just objectively wrong. if it were john kasich or something, you would not the same type of critique, it would mirror the anti-hillary statement a lot more. the fact of the matter is, trump either has 0 idea what he's talking back or deliberately dumbs down his rhetoric for his base to the point of complete nonsense.

also the 300 economists against hillary's plan are wrong, but that's a completely different story.
Cherry picking pretty hard there my dude, people who criticize hillary are just conservatives (all economists are conservative) who don't like her because. The big difference between the two letters seems to be that trump is disliked because they feel he is misleading the people. The people against hillary's don't like it because they believe the actual polices are bad.

that's almost exactly what I said, other than that trump is being criticized for misleading people AND having bad policies

and not all economists are conservative by any stretch, just those brought up in the freshwater u-chicago school of lunacy where all actors are perfectly rational and if markets are left completely alone everyone wins and everything is fair

I mean everything we observe with the study of economics points to the fact that a free market is the only system that works and gives the largest number of people the greatest amount of happiness and freedom. I know your a young university student getting a worthless degree and you really like the idea of free education because hey the job your gonna get from it isn't gonna make you too much money. Minimum wage sounds great cuz you might have to work at mcdonalds because nobody's hiring. Despite the fact that minimum wage has been found to hurt low skilled young workers more than anyone else.

posted about 8 years ago
#905 Donald Trump in World Events
mustardoverlordNub_DanishmustardoverlordFor those who find my posts to be a tldr, read that letter, it is worth your timeSo there is are 300 economists writing a letter saying hillarys bad and 370 saying trump is bad... They are both bad, I simply believe hillary's is worse.
the 300 economists saying hillary's plan is bad are simply conservatives who want completely open markets and low taxes/regulations. they disagree with her ideologically, simple as that.

the ones saying trump's is bad are not just liberal economists criticizing tax policy of a conservative. they are going against his continual approach of apocalyptic rabble-rousing against statistics and government departments, tea-party style, with no basis in reality. he says things that are just objectively wrong. if it were john kasich or something, you would not the same type of critique, it would mirror the anti-hillary statement a lot more. the fact of the matter is, trump either has 0 idea what he's talking back or deliberately dumbs down his rhetoric for his base to the point of complete nonsense.

also the 300 economists against hillary's plan are wrong, but that's a completely different story.

Cherry picking pretty hard there my dude, people who criticize hillary are just conservatives (all economists are conservative) who don't like her because. The big difference between the two letters seems to be that trump is disliked because they feel he is misleading the people. The people against hillary's don't like it because they believe the actual polices are bad.

posted about 8 years ago
#903 Donald Trump in World Events
mustardoverlordFor those who find my posts to be a tldr, read that letter, it is worth your time

So there is are 300 economists writing a letter saying hillarys bad and 370 saying trump is bad... They are both bad, I simply believe hillary's is worse.

posted about 8 years ago
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