6v6 is like a completely different game compared to casual TF2, there is almost no overlap, even down to the maps that people play (payload vs 5cp/koth) and the flow of the game. No casual TF2 video watcher/casual TF2 player is ever inspired to try out true competitive 6v6, they might dabble in highlander to try out their favourite class in a semi competitive way, or play valve's """"competitive"""" and get turned off from 6v6 altogether

Comp isn't viewed well by casuals because the pyro pubber, demoknight, and spy main essentially can't play 6v6, on top of that there's dozens of weapon bans and class bans as well as a strict meta and balanced 5cp/koth maps - these are all things that are completely antithesis to normal casual TF2 (12v12, payload-focused, variety of classes and weapons, etc)

On top of that, it requires some dedicated effort to get into 6v6 TF2 compared to other games as Valve's competitive mode is a meme, so a causal player will need to invest time into finding a Discord group, setting up everything to join a PUG, learning how 6v6 plays, and it takes a long while for a truly casual player to transition into a decent 6v6 player that won't frustrate teammates.

There are also no 'jump in and play' newbie 6v6 TF2 options, as TF2Center is usually filled with deceptively good players, other pickup websites are for mid/high+, and Valve competitive isn't standard 6v6. So there are no options outside of actively looking for a Discord newbie PUG group, or joining an NC team and dedicating time each week for scrims/officials

I played many pugs in TF2CC at NC/AM for fun for a few months, and whenever a new player joined or a pubber tried out 6v6, it was 99% of the time a disaster and they would get destroyed, teammates annoyed, and leave after 1 or 2 games never to be seen again (and this is in potentially the most newbie-friendly PUG environment outside of maybe pure Newbie Mixes). This is even more prevalent in mid+ pugs where players will be sure to let you know if you aren't performing to their standards

Most players that get into 6v6 TF2 are usually already competitively minded and they're actively looking for comp TF2-style gameplay to begin with, whereas casual players are simply not playing the game in the same way. They play for fun, they use classes and weapons that aren't even available in 6v6, they play on popular maps that aren't played in 6v6, and for the most part they don't need as much skill to perform well in pubs compared to being even somewhat useful in 6v6

There is definitely a feeling in the casual community that competitive TF2 is pretty toxic and not forgiving/welcoming to new players, especially medics trying to get into 6v6. Would love if there were some more events that could introduce players to semi-competitive TF2/6v6 TF2, events like Seasonalander bridge the gap with 9v9 content creators playing Highlander but not sure if similar events exist for 6v6 TF2, and certainly none at the scale of Seasonalander (even though the event is also fairly small)

I'm a nobody in the community but would be up to debate as someone who used to play lots of 6v6, played lots of TF2CC pugs with NC/AM and saw new comp players' experiences, and someone who now plays pretty casually with a very casual-focused TF2 youtube audience

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I just use a basic green cross, many people use this too as it's simple and effective, easy to see, doesn't obstruct your view. Also used dot crosshairs in Overwatch/TF2 which worked well but sometimes you can tend to lose track of it (maybe just me), also many people use konrWings variants which seem to be useful on scout since if any part of the crosshair/wings is on an enemy, you know you'll be doing damage. Usually keep it simple, relatively small, and a bold colour that stands out against the map (green, white, pink, etc)

Sorry for bump, but -hushsteam means you can't use unlocks in local tf2 servers, would streamers still be safe by just being invisible on Steam or do you need both? Would you need to remove -hushsteam when playing on local tf2 servers, then add it back when you're playing normally? Cheers

Is there a way to fix this loading bug without fully resetting/cleaning up TF2? Tried deleting materials/temp and no difference

EDIT: Never mind, fixed, you need to delete both materials/temp and download/user_custom

looks pretty nice

i love the loadout screens, loadout menu, tourny spec ui
ingame hud reminds me of rayshud which looks great

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I mean it's only in Valve's benefit to let these mods continue development and let these modders work on the game that they've pretty much abandoned, it would be ridiculous if they nuked all these mods instead of just making a few legal changes. Maybe further down the line Valve could add finished parts from these mods to the base game as like a modder's update, like how they add workshop content

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Cheers for this

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60hz>144hz is a crazy difference, it's hard to play on 60hz any more, just feels laggy and strange. you don't get mechanically better just from using it but aiming and gameplay is so much easier and clearer that it's definitely an advantage
144hz>240hz is noticeable and nice but not necessary, spend the money on other hardware instead