There was me thinking Masternoob had attempted to do the right thing. Oh well, massive thanks to the donator whoever that is. 500 euros is a heck of a lot.

I don't know Fairy + Fisch all that well because they joined the staff after I left but I'm told they're both nice people. Ninjamoocow, I never had a problem with but I've heard some complaints about him but not much.

I don't really get why they'd want to stay but hey it's their decision at the end of the day.

Only ones I know of are kkaltuu and RTC

Well I don't see the point in refunding the money, we may as well wait about because also in that thread one of the current mods (Fairy) said this:

*Unless your viewpoints are negative and don't conform to our brand of thought in which case you will be deleted/assimilated whichever happens first.

Seriously though I don't trust the admins to keep negative posts around so what's the point in me writing on the thread.

For those of you who haven't seen: http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-31/#post-539457

What the fuck? Possible U-turn?

To be honest I'm surprised I'm not banned yet. Just double checked and I'm not banned from forums at least. Funny really because I know for a fact they are super pissed off at me and they quite happily banned kkaltuu so yeah no idea what's going on in their heads.

That's pretty funny but real talk for a sec, that kind of stuff reaffirms this belief of theirs that the whole (or at least most) of ETF2L are against them and are out to get them. I know this to be the case because they've told me as much before.

http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-27/#post-539367
http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-28/#post-539372

Although there's a LOT more to this story then what's just there. I've heard both sides of it already.

I think most people have that happen at some point in their life. I know it's happened to me and it really sucks.

This is probably a good time to state that most admins at TF2C are actually really decent people. I know this because I used to work with some of them as an admin myself. I don't know what people thought of me but I know a lot of people like Foxy, Kkaltuu, Mattgician, Terry Crews, Showerfairy, RTC (outside of the staff), Kenneth and probably others too have great reputations. In fact really the only people who have bad reps are Masternoob (Site Owner + Head Programmer) and Mother Thereza (Graphic designer).

Masternoob just doesn't know when to quit does he? I'd love to see Masternoob explain the reasoning behind this. Banning someone who has put so much into the site is not cool.

Oops apologies for the double post.

I don't disagree with you. I just don't get why the previous poster didn't seem to understand the premise as the use of the word "anyway" in his sentence indicated.

Certain TF2C staff have been getting into spats with various parts of the TF2 community. The first time was probably when a bunch of Team Colonslash people got banned from the site but I can't even remember why but I remember it was stupid and one of the staff members (Foxy) later apologised on the ETF2L forums for it. Aside from that it's just been very blunt/rude posts on the ETF2L forums, banning players because they don't like them/for minor things and now this. That's all I can remember off the top of my head.

I agree we shouldn't move away from them right away but it's at least a possibility in the future. I personally can't imagine myself playing med with this mechanic though and maybe I'm alone in that but I just think there's enough pressure on medics to play correctly as it is.

By default it's bound to F

Also another random (slightly not serious) thought: Building 2 ubers in a stalemate is a thing now. You know that time you're stood in spawn on viaduct building with a scout 2 miles behind the rest of your team? Do you enjoy that? Well now you get to do it every time the enemy medic drops! Fun gameplay mechanic!

tf_dropped_weapon_lifetime -1

But then again I can't remember the last time a change this big was made to TF2. Perhaps ETF2L will go that bit further this time?

I'm not the most experienced player (and perhaps that'll show with the nonsense I write) but I'm struggling to see why you would run kritz/vaccinator in a high pressure situation. If my understanding is correct then if you've popped anything other than an Uber and you get jumped before you can kill the enemy med then whatever kritz charge is left is retained.

So basically the risk/reward looks like this:

Best case scenario Reward: You drop their med and maybe some other players too. You get a free uber (or free uber %) which you can change to. You could also argue about it introducing uncertainty into what the enemy thinks you are using but really who is gonna pass on a free uber in favor of kritz in an important game? This could probably win the round.

Good case scenario reward: You don't kill the med but kill 4 or more players then realistically they have to back out. This is kinda good or bad depending on spawns, positions and how events unfold afterwards.

Bad case scenario risk: They pop uber, most of your team get out but likely some will die unless the other team really fluff the situation. Perhaps the med will die later on after the kritz is over. You can recover from this but it'll be hard.
Worst case scenario risk: They pop uber and some bright young thing "drops" your medic mid kritz. Before this wouldn't have mattered but now depending on how quickly this happens your enemy could get anywhere from almost 0% to maybe 80% kritz if the enemy flank calls your push early and the roamer is sick. This will probably result in you losing the game save some super clutch plays.

This is all assuming your med doesn't drop at 100% but I think the risk/reward boils down to this.

Kritz:
Reward: You get a free uber and basically win the game.
Risk: You give them a free Kritz and basically lose the game.

With Uber it's:

Uber
Reward: You get a good trade and gain an advantage.
Risk: You get a bad uber trade and suffer a setback.

Same applies to Vaccinator but either way, this might be ok for some officials but at LAN or in a final? Is this the death of the clutch Kritz play on the big scene? The risk feels too great at the moment for it to be viable in high stakes situations.

EDIT: Welp nevermind. In the 20 something mins it took for me to write and format this it's no longer an issue... great...
DOUBLE EDIT: Or maybe issue is not kill!

Is your fix to beg attendees to give their BYOC tickets to top players? Kappa.

Joking aside I hope these players make it to LAN.

I can't imagine Multiplay would want this either. TF2 isn't the biggest game there but it still draws a hefty crowd and people won't be happy if half of the best teams aren't there. I think the deal-breaker (if there is one) is fire safety.If they've hit their quota of people for the space they have then it's pretty catastrophic.