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Hey gang, I'm a UGC silver heavy (been a heavy main for over a year and a half) and will be streaming most of my scrims and matches during the upcoming season, and also lobbies and pubs and all that good stuff.
Sidebar name: Rondego
Country: USA
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/alexak75
UGC: http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561197979358751
Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/alexrondego/
rowpiecesbowswer5Orpheusdon't know if this is anything but some dude named hydroflouric is streaming right now with lmaobox open
http://m.imgur.com/1nKYCW1
it's a joke picture. he even has it showing on quake live lol
Not sure if he's trying to pull anything with that but he's impersonating me for some reason.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/rondegothebest/
aieraI am genuinely curious why you hacked Rondego, like you can keep pretending you didn't, but I feel that the only way anyone will forgive you or trust you is if you explain yourself, it's not like admitting it will hurt you at any point when everyone knows you hack and you already got banned, I appreciate what you do for our community (camera work for EVL) and I think that the best way to regain our trust (if you want to at all) is honesty.
I'd honestly love to say that I cheated just so I could get this whole thing over with because it's hell, but I can't, because I didn't. I have some ideas, and I'll be working hard over the next few weeks researching TF2's netcode and the demo recording system to prove definitively that my aim couldn't have been assisted, since demos and explanations haven't been working. In the mean time though, hope you guys are all enjoying the entertainment.
_In_SanityRondegoHacking is touchy because neither side can 100% prove their stuff, so it comes down to a game of who can convince people more. There's no "show me x and y to prove that you're not cheating," because if there was, I would have done it a long time ago. I just have to sit here spewing out what I think shows that I'm actually doing what I'm doing. Nobody's giving me anything to show, I assume because most people don't care enough to jump off the bandwagon of thinking I'm cheating and/or don't want to associate with an accused hacker because they don't want to look bad. It feels like a witch hunt. Hell, just the fact that it's me saying this and not someone else automatically removes any credibility of what I'm saying for a lot of those people.
And hey, the convenient thing for them is that if I'm hacking, they get rid of a cheater. If I'm not, they get rid of an annoying little brat who won't shut up about trying to defend himself. So why wouldn't they ban me? It's a win-win. Can't say I blame them.
If you are set on defending your innocence than this thread is not the place. There is a lot of very reasonable suspicion (a number of those frags look really fishy... which I do admit does not immediately mean hacks, but it raises a lot of doubt). Because of that you aren't going to win in the court of public opinion right now.
That has nothing to do with this being a win-win situation, it isn't. But it is a situation where the cost of being wrong and exonerating you when you are guilty is incredibly high (it would essentially invalidate any future investigation before it began and that is dangerous).
Anyway, if you are genuinely innocent then what you need to do is stop feeding the fire here, and go to whatever admin group is handling the actual investigation and ask them what you are trying to ask here. What do they need, if you are innocent be as cooperative as you can be, give them whatever they need, and stop worrying about opinions in this thread. We can't ban you, regardless of our personal opinions.
You are right though, catching a hacker isn't a game of absolutes. There is a chance that even if you are legit you will be banned, and you need to be ready for that, and you need to handle it gracefully. As long as you are cooperative and respectful to the admins you should be fine.
Thank you so much for posting that. I'm actually working on a video now detailing every single suspicious moment that people have brought up here, and I'll give that to the admins when it's done in case they don't want to talk to me in person for some reason.
Jetzoh well, if hes not hacking he wont get banned
Hacking is touchy because neither side can 100% prove their stuff, so it comes down to a game of who can convince people more. There's no "show me x and y to prove that you're not cheating," because if there was, I would have done it a long time ago. I just have to sit here spewing out what I think shows that I'm actually doing what I'm doing. Nobody's giving me anything to show, I assume because most people don't care enough to jump off the bandwagon of thinking I'm cheating and/or don't want to associate with an accused hacker because they don't want to look bad. It feels like a witch hunt. Hell, just the fact that it's me saying this and not someone else automatically removes any credibility of what I'm saying for a lot of those people.
And hey, the convenient thing for them is that if I'm hacking, they get rid of a cheater. If I'm not, they get rid of an annoying little brat who won't shut up about trying to defend himself. So why wouldn't they ban me? It's a win-win. Can't say I blame them.
DoctorMiggyRondegoWould it help shed some light on the suspicious parts of the demos if they were recorded at a very high frame rate like 240 or 300 (or higher)? Because I've actually never used aim assist, and I don't know exactly how they work. I assume they perfectly track the centers of targets, which would be recorded 1-to-1 on a POV demo, right? That's why I'm wondering if showing a super slow-mo might make things clearer. Maybe in wireframe. I'm not sure what would help at this point.
Shadowplay does not record higher than 60fps
Same goes for OBS if I recall.
I'm pretty sure bandicam doesn't either.
Source: I use shadowplay to record all my videos. I used to use bandicam and OBS but they are terrible.
I understand that. I meant show those frags from the demos in slow motion to show that the tracking isn't perfect.
xoSucks that you need a hacker to try to place. I also agree with the "hacker ego" thing. Rondego released a video of "How to Play Competitive Heavy" not too long ago. He must be really proud of himself.
Well sure. I'm happy that I'm able to make videos for youtube and help out newer heavies, since there's not a lot of content out there and good heavies are scarce because nobody really wants to play the class. I've only played heavy in comp for the past year and a half, mostly in steel, and it was a ton of fun.
I really hate doing all this on a forum because it seems like it's making me sound like a condescending dick. Podgy, maybe, but I've never tried to come across that way. I'm just frustrated because I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place and apparently all of the POVs and reasoning I've tried to give out have only made things worse.
Obviously the problem is that I don't know how to actually prove that what I'm doing is genuine. Guess I'd just be digging myself a deeper hole if I keep trying to show evidence? Here's a slow-mo video of some of the kills that people brought up recently. I can record more if this is helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ryxiV7p5w
Would it help shed some light on the suspicious parts of the demos if they were recorded at a very high frame rate like 240 or 300 (or higher)? Because I've actually never used aim assist, and I don't know exactly how they work. I assume they perfectly track the centers of targets, which would be recorded 1-to-1 on a POV demo, right? That's why I'm wondering if showing a super slow-mo might make things clearer. Maybe in wireframe. I'm not sure what would help at this point.
Avast40:15 to 40:28
I could tell where the engy was there because you can see the tracers from his shotgun. It's not hard to spot.
Avast42:46 to 52:58
I went back to watch this and I saw my spy kill at 42:52, and yeah, I can definitely see why you'd think that's an aimbot. I'd say that I was just able to track him, because I was, but I know I can't actually prove that, so I'll leave it for what it's worth.
Avast48:12 to 48:18
That tracking was good too, but you can tell it's not perfect, especially if you watch it slowed down. If that was janky because I knew it was a spy, you can tell because he was a scout and you can tell because of his movement speed.
It's 2AM here so I need to get to sleep. If I can do anything else, you know where to find me.
AvastFor someone who has played only Steel HL on a 2.5 inch per 360 your tracking is invite caliber at times.............
I can say that after playing heavy in UGC for almost the past year and a half, my tracking has gotten pretty good. Unless I were to go through play-by-play and talk about every time I killed someone in that match, for right now I just know that steel and silver players are usually fairly predictable. Some more than others of course.
And just to clarify, yes, I've given out as many demos and POVs as I could and explained how I do things like flicking. I know that's not always enough, and I'm saying that I can replicate all of that because that's actually how I play and that's actually my skill level. If there's any way that I can record myself actually doing what I'm doing, I'll do it. Hell I'd even do my best to record a lobby with my mouse, keyboard, and monitor in the shot if that'd help. Please, please, call my bluff if you think I'm bullshitting. If there's any feasible way for me to prove I'm just playing TF2, tell me.
podgy713Jarrett000SheoYou guys are circlejerking p hard, it just makes you look more guilty and even bigger retards.This.
There's nothing someone needs help posting that they can't post themselves. I understand trying to vouch for someone, but anything more than that isn't really needed at all.
The only reason I'm vouching for him is because he's my friend and my teammate. I'm the leader of the team, so it's kind of my responsibility as well with all this. The hackusation doesn't only go to Rondego, but to the entire team.
What bothers me the most is that Rondego is giving you guys everything you guys want. Demos, justifications, but at this point, you guys just want to see him fail, no matter how much evidence there is disproving the hackusation. And then Etney comes along and thinks he's this high and mighty plat player who doesn't know what a fucking nospread hack looks like on a heavy (like honestly, have you SEEN nospread on heavy? It doesn't seem like you have.)
As much as I appreciate you helping me out here, I can speak for myself Podgy.
MaxillawsWhat are the chances the Spy got called out here? Just wondering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCfw52dzKbE
He wasn't called, but that was really funny at the time because I knew that spies sometimes liked to hang out there on offense so I began regularly spychecking that left side while holding stairs, and during that game I just caught him outright. You've had lucky plays too, I'm sure.
EtneyIn one of the enemy's teams pushing into 2nd, you track 5-6 ubered targets PERFECTLY into the middle of their body and doesn't miss a bullet. Like holy shit you are dense if you still want to defend yourself.
Can I ask where in the POV that happened? I highly doubt I tracked them perfectly.
I appreciate Podgy backing me up with this but he can be abrasive. I can speak for myself.
dollarlayer1) If a player is behind you and you are being attacked, why would you make the assumption that they are directly behind you (a perfect 180) when they could very well be flanking you at an offset of 180, such as 150 degrees.
I've been saying that it was a fun thing I wanted to try and it turned out to work pretty well when I did, but it's not nearly viable enough for an actual game. I like to think it's interesting to be able to flick like that, and that's it. My video was like a proof of concept - we were messing around on our own in a server and I wanted to see if I could flickshot him with a 180. It turned out I could (sometimes), and I made a video out of it because again, I thought it was interesting to be able to do that.
dollarlayer2) Why would you feel confident enough to do the 180 spin to hit the scout behind you then do a 180 return spin to face your prior direction, when there is no way for your mind to process if you actually hit the scout in that 1/10th of a second timeline? I understand fast flicking and I used to do a fair amount of fast flicks on soldier when I was running 2.5" sense, but never would I return my fov to my original facing direction, I would look at my target to see if they are dead and continue firing if necessary.
I don't really understand why people are looking into the reasoning for all this. Again, this was for fun, experimenting with a crazy tactic. There's absolutely no reason you'd do what I did in the video in an actual game because that would be stupid and ineffective.
dollarlayer3) We've had multiple people join the tread conversation to try to claim their innocence. So far quite honestly all of them were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were cheating.
Can I just ask what people think I'm actually doing so that I can show that I'm not? Unless I missed something, all I've seen is that I'm "hacking" or that I'm "fishy," and that my logs during a match were "suspicious," but do people think I'm using aimbot? Some other cheat? I'd assume it's aimbot because we've just been talking about flicking, so I've shown how I was able to flick just with high sensitivity. If there's something else, I'd like to know what it is.