Could you make comparison videos ryan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXv1--lwaVU who is this knoxxx kid feeding easy rockets

josh is me btw, doing my bit for the sheepy lan effort

http://plays.tv/video/556b2caf53bda5d398

weird spot that I don't think was in granary? Also can you do something about the spawns pls :(

EDIT: I don't mean the spawn timers, they're perfect. It's the huge sniper sightline that's the problem imo. From left side mainly.

Apparently he just rode a sticky and it's all a lie.

#fuckjosh

That's a really cool initiative, I like that Cherry! Awesome stuff.

it's only a joke don't worry I believe in you, you'll be at least the 3rd best eu team

fixed, ty

I want to pick players from 5$ club for my roster this week but I dunno wtf is going on with that team. Anyone gimme the gossip?

btw concordia after ascent win their three games this week I'm in the money ;D

You obviously haven't ever played against a team much much better than you then? It's certainly possible to know you're gonna lose but still give 100%. Even outside this context, to say that you can't perform 100% without genuinely believing you're gonna win is just simply not true.

AYOOGURRRLLLL

I'm not saying it should be allowed, I'm just saying that it's not as bad as throwing the game deliberately for skins and therefore doesn't necessarily require an ETF2L ban. I think it's possible to bet against yourself if you're playing vs a much better team and still give it your all. I don't think that's contradictory at all.

Also ye herrp you guys are gonna be so close with dogs.tf it's gonna be scary. Big chokers on your team.

But if people bet against themselves and throw the game they will be banned from ETF2L as well. The only difference is that if people use an alt to try and circumvent your policy without throwing they only get a ban on saloon. Which is fair enough, if they're not throwing the game and just wanted to bet against themselves, they deserve a ban on saloon but don't deserve to be banned on ETF2L.

You can't win the GC, you have to lose 2 points to win a spread bet.

This isn't supposed to be fool-proof, if people want to throw for a few refined they will create alts and risk it, my point is that you're fine with ESEA's system and it's less of a deterrent than ETF2L's; it makes no sense to disallow spread bets for ETF2L and be fine with them for ESEA. Just allow them for both.

Your counter to point 2 makes no sense.

In ESEA you have a situation where a team can throw 3 rounds and still take all the points from a fixture but lose a spread bet. There is no way to tell they threw the game, they might have just been trying out a new unlock or w/e.

In ETF2L they have to lose 2 points to throw the game and lose a spread bet. That's the difference between getting into playoffs and not for a team like TLR. That's the difference between 1st and 3rd seed for a team like Zizi. It's a huge deterrent, and imo as much as the risk of getting banned. It makes no sense to have that as your reason for spread betting being disallowed in Europe.