Sadly that's just going to be the case, these companies love marketing up to 750 C even though there's a noticeable drop in accuracy as cool at 550 C in some cases, but because it's not literally liquid in your hands it's fine to them
When I was living in the upper mantle I tried like 5 brands but ended up having to give up tf2 entirely and could only play turn based games like slay the spire

I was asked for footage on the loch vid so i imagine other people were asked for their footage
i was also asked about alfa because people called him a pedo without knowing it was for this vid

you are posting on the forum where the bad behavior was called out and dealt with actually, in some cases to the very people who called out the behavior and/or dealt with it
the video you used to form your opinions on a community you havent spent 1 second in had nothing to do with the exposure or banning of these people

pootis fazbear deserves a mention

It's definitely cringe when potential invite contenders kill a team if they can't beat froyo but taking a break after one season is totally normal
also i don't think it's the only reason he's struggling to get a froyo roster to stick together long term

i don't think i liked anything about it sorry
https://youtu.be/rijuSUZo-w0?si=agvfVyQ0GQ6Iko6A

I rang for a nr6s cup once and its fun to pub around for a couple hours
more than that is too much for me personally

the most important thing is that they never get a job

The "competitive environment" is barely changed at all with sandbagging teams involved outside of what number is in the standings or who wins in playoffs (usually).

What's being discussed is subjective and if someone for example thinks that low invite is advanced and top advanced is low invite then this post offers absolutely nothing because its taking for granted the premise that these are teams that do not belong and that the top of one div ought to be worse than the bottom of the next div.

In contrast while more sandbag-friendly posts obviously also have their biases about where to "draw the line" so to speak, when we talk about the benefits conferred on a div by having stronger opponents, easier transitions upwards with a more overlapping skill gradient between divs, less friction for returning to the game or making teams in general we're making arguments that hold true regardless of where you subjectively draw the line.

I'd care a lot less about the topic if the outcomes of what kind of sandbag action were taken was also subjective but they're not. On one side you have rules actively killing teams whereas the other side has what exactly? The boogeyman of some god team dropping two divs as an analogy for a mid-invite player dropping a div to mainclass on a friend team? Am I supposed to care?

at least they're real

Every season you can count teams that get restricted into death whereas these theoretical teams that quit because the 1st place team is now 3rd is completely fictional (now if were talking about complaining instead of quitting that's a different story)

unrelated to the thread but a few years ago TLR randomly added up to im/main pugs and that was a fun couple nights

I've played on a top advanced team and we nearly exclusively scrimmed advanced teams and we had a great playoffs run, genuinely where are you getting this opinion from

The reason these aren't equivalent is because a team in a div is facing 90% of the same competition regardless of if sandbaggers are allowed or not and the only change is 1 or 2 hard teams to play, whereas a team being forced up a div are facing a completely different competitive landscape that is nothing like what they wanted to sign up for
You can absolutely still tell sandbaggers to get good and move up but there's obviously a big difference

How are adv teams going to develop to an invite level if there are no invite caliber gatekeepers for them to compete against? Rather that just talking in platitudes why not look at the actual reality of how teams actually being prepared for invite means teams move up into invite? Invite caliber and advanced are not nor should they be mutually exclusive terms
Here's an example: season 7 grands was between a sandbagging donovin and a sandbagging gungon. What was the outcome? The 3rd place team dynasty became an extremely successful and exciting invite moveup team two seasons later.
Was this match any less prestigious than if yeti and death cult were culled in the pre-season? Is there any actual discernible loss of competitive integrity by letting people with invite success compete for top 3 adv? So why kill teams like these for the short-sighted goal of making invite stronger for 3 months while making the rest of adv far less capable of actually moving up by the end of the season?