atidereIt is of no fault because of the Palestinians of course, but many Jews who were expelled from their ancestral homeland went to Iraq, Yemen, Iran, Lebanon, etc, only to be kicked out of those homes again down the road on numerous occasions (most recently in 1948)
This really fascinated me because you manage to invent the most bizarre circular logic to justify the existence of Israel. Antisemitism in the arab world, to be clear, is wrong. Yet not only is modern antisemitism a european phenomenon that the middle east adopted from them, but it was only adopted in reaction to how imperial britain was meddling in the region and zionist colonialism. You found a way to take antisemitism that flared up in reaction to zionism, not Jews, as a justification for zionism!
atidereIt is again, in my opinion, quite naïve to think everyone in the IDF agrees with the likes of Netanyahu or Itamar Ben Gvir etc.
the actual audacity to use the word naive while claiming surely the military apparatus and boots on the ground demolishing gaza and carrying out genocide have some disagreements with the government officials talking about how important it is to demolish gaza and ordering them to demolish gaza
atidereI will say, that it never ceases to amaze me that people feel comfortable criticizing the Israeli government and its systems/policies, and with the same comfort level, they will then propose a solution that involves whatever they are accusing of the Israeli government of committing. It really is a phenomenon that I may never come to understand.
im assuming this is a soft argument against what i said here:
Wild_RumpusJews lived in Palestine before zionism was invented and im sure they will live in Palestine after it is defeated. If you're asking if every Israeli citizen can rest assured that they get to keep going on as usual just under a palestinian state then the answer is no, settlers still need to be ousted from homes they dont own, war criminals and genociders still need to stand trial.
in which case i couldnt have made a more illustrative example of liberal zionism myself because not only is it cloaked in a sense of moral superiority, not only is there an assumption of israel's legitamacy woven in, but it is completely and utterly devoid of even an attempt to understand the issue systemically, understand the power dynamics. If a woman is returned her purse would you call her a thief for taking it back after it's stolen? In what way is the return the homes and land of a people back to them the same as the original theft? They are the exact opposite