for reference: I do not agree with Tino_'s comments. I've received some interest from some top players in coaching (and a lot of interest from others as well), and for me that's enough to want to keep going.
to slin, I definitely hear what you're saying, but newbie mixes is not that. newbie mixes aren't a mentoring group. not totally, anyways. newbie mixes is here to provide an outlet for interested players to pick up competitive. we don't claim to teach anything past the basics of 6v6 and give novice players a place to practice before joining a team. dashner has it right:
dashnerI was always under the impression that newbie mixes were intended to get players started with the game, as opposed to long term development as slin is suggesting?
At least that's how it should be imo
however,
MR_SLIN[...]
being in a situation where you teach the concepts over and over again can get repetitive and it feels like work. nobody wants to do work on their spare Friday nights. [...]
you have a very valid point here, and this is something that's bothered me for a while. do you have any suggestions on how to "change up" coaching? I usually let coaches pick between coaching from spec or on medic, but I know that's not enough
Tirlby[...] Basically, newbie mixes are better for introducing the game to newer players than tf2center, and are a way for people to play pugs that aren't as high skill as tf2mix.
I completely agree with everything you have said up until this point. newbie mixes is not a pug group for inexperienced players. newbie mixes are hosted to provide a place for interested players to try playing 6v6 in a fun, non-toxic environment. not for inexperienced players to chill out and play 6v6. this group is much much more suited for that.
that said, if you are new, come chill with us and learn. but do not view newbie mixes as a place to zone out and game. if you sign up to play in newbie mixes, be interested in playing and learning.