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#22 Redeye thinks TF2 should be an esport in TF2 General Discussion
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Valve does not want to make TF2 an esport, it was never in their plans, they make enough money off hats n keys n cosmetics already.

I'm just going to respond to this uhh... sentence? and I need to break down each part.

Valve would like to see TF2 become a viable and successful esport, but you're correct they don't want to MAKE TF2 a successful esport in the sense that they're not going to drop a lot of cash suddenly out of no-where. This ISN'T what happened with Counter-Strike and DotA. With both cases they were actually supporting eXisting infrastructure. Valve's whole methodology involves not forcing the community to do or like certain things. They aren't trying to be Blizzard or Riot, paying player salaries and they definitely want to avoid being Shootmania.

Never in their plans? It depends on the sense that you're talking about. Supporting the esports community has always in their plans, buying us all new lambos has never been in their plans.

You're definitely right about the last part, which ties into my original point. We have to show them we can bring in money to the TF2 eco-system in order to justify them supporting us more. This hasn't changed since idk, 2011? 2012?

Community has done a ton, I don't mean to denigrate that, but there's also been a ton of in-fighting and fracturing over the years. We definitely could use some help from the developers, but they have other stuff to focus on.

I'm sure they'll be working on TF2 again if they aren't right now, but honestly from their perspective the balance is pretty good and nothing is majorly broken. Whatever they're working on might just be the huge UI update we need to modernize TF2, they'd be stupid not to do something new with the TF universe eventually. We just need to keep doing our thing.

Casual TF2 needs definitely overshadow comp TF2 needs for the time of the Valve developers. We still just need to keep growing. RelaX about it though, it's no big deal, just have fun and it will all come in time.

posted about 4 years ago
#13 Redeye thinks TF2 should be an esport in TF2 General Discussion

" I do think the whole "Relationship with Valve" boat has sailed."

We're always going to have a relationship with Valve. There is no boat that has sailed anywhere. The devs might be locked up in their room ignoring us because of reasons, but they're still around.

We have built a lot of shit ourselves, my point is we need to build more. The reasons for that don't even involve Valve. If we keep building all those things, at some point we can re-engage with Valve. If we've built enough shit, then the conversation could easily be: "Yao, we've made a pro-mod and we're making a compendium, do you want to help or not?"

Valve will always be a part of the equation, it's better to try and understand them instead of blaming and ignoring them.

posted about 4 years ago
#4 RGL S3 W1A: MyAnimeList vs. froyotech in Matches

NO MORE ExPERIMENTS

posted about 4 years ago
#9 Redeye thinks TF2 should be an esport in TF2 General Discussion

He also answered my question - https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/grgul2/ama_i_am_paul_redeye_chaloner_esports_host_caster/frzaa1x/

I still think the community isn't interfacing with Valve correctly and that we can still create better relationships with them that could lead to something like a compendium eventually.

If your answer to the question of why TF2 didn't take off as an esport is "Valve's fault" you're not looking at the issue deeply enough.

We need to continue to focus on growing the fundamentals of the competitive community, stuff like infrastructure (volunteers, admins, leagues/websites), media (Producers, Casters, Streamers, tf2bers), and events (LANs/Tournaments/Pug nights/Newbie MiX).

2020 was looking like it was gonna be a big year for TF2, then, yknaow, things. More recently, RGL and OzFortress have seen a surge of signups, I'm not sure about ETF2L. Things are starting to look good again imo.

posted about 4 years ago
#14 Should I watch LOST? in Music, Movies, TV

I used to be pretty into it, but I too felt betrayed by the ending. I think the storytelling is unique enough that it's worth a watch, especially in terms of how TV shows have been developing over the last 20 years, but as Arie also said maybe there are other shows to watch first.

posted about 4 years ago
#40 RGL S3 Main Happenings/Discussion in TF2 General Discussion

ggwp yeremy!

posted about 4 years ago
#72 Top 5 favourite current rappers in Music, Movies, TV

Thanks, I'll take ok!

Idk it's weird but I'm def feeling the musical vibe these days. Watched the new Beastie Boys documentary and that got me inspired, forgot how much I loved them in High School, back in 2000 lol. New Burnsiders song isn't far off and then I've already been kicking around ideas for a follow up. Would be fun to put together an EP.

posted about 4 years ago
#70 Top 5 favourite current rappers in Music, Movies, TV

So uhhh I did a thing. And this is besides the other thing we're working on.

Please check it out, lemme know what you think and drop some comments to boost it:
Miyachi - Mainichi (Portland remiX w/ eXtine)
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAokM_dB-W_/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

posted about 4 years ago
#21 RGL S3 Main Happenings/Discussion in TF2 General Discussion

The social was a lot of fun. I won't bother bumping that thread cuz it was already dead.

1 - Rodney and The Stangers
2 - Space Cadets
3 - onlyfans.com/SpadesSlick
4 - Pastel Mirage
5 (tied on Villa) - Hairline Treatment Centre
5 (tied on Villa) - Give me five minutes
7 - ape masters Bosnia
8 - Frantic
9 - Ultralord and the Sheens
10 - The First Ever Yarn! Team Ever
11 - 2wycked esports
12 - TheTragedyOfDarthInkyTheBlot
13 - Purple Air Pods
14 - Glovebox Glock
15 - Portland Burnsiders
16 - Straight Outta ReSurfed

Def this was scrambled together so I didn't have a chance to really get everything properly setup beforehand.

Shout-out to the team captains for hanging with me. I'm really glad y'all had fun.

Shout-out to Antlers for putting a cast together tonight, Shout-out to Doomicorn and Ryan for casting! Also, def a shout-out to 24 from pug.tf for putting together some servers for us and helping me with some administrating.

Final shout-out to my teammates, y'all are eXcellent, let's keep gettin it.

posted about 4 years ago
#26 sick of this shit in TF2 General Discussion

yeah, when does the merch roll out. Could slang the shit to the kitchen industry crowd.

posted about 4 years ago
#22 RGL Main Pre-Season Social in TF2 General Discussion

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12OS5YltYNmO5EaOgp-yo8pO-bXWXIgliHcQhXUFRWlM/edit?usp=sharing

This has all the group games with links to logs in it and standings after the two games. I'll update it tomorrow and re-post match-ups cleaner.

posted about 4 years ago
#21 RGL Main Pre-Season Social in TF2 General Discussion
bill_2 teams from each group move on? or just one?

You move on! And you move on! And you move on! And you move on!

(your placement in the group determines which team you play from one of the other groups, you'll play that bo2 series at 1030 even if you lose all your games)

posted about 4 years ago
#16 RGL Main Pre-Season Social in TF2 General Discussion

Match 1 - GULLYWASH

Group A
Yarn! Vs Glove
Harline vs Rodney

Group B
Burnsiders vs 5 minutes
Pastel Mirage vs Ultralord

Group C
onlyfans.com/SpadesSlick vs TheTragedyOfDarthInkyTheBlot
ape masters Bosnia vs Straight Outta ReSurfed

Group D
Space Cadets vs Frantic
2wycked esports vs Purple Air Pods
Match 2 - SUNSHINE

Group A
Hairline Treatment Centre vs The First Ever Yarn! Team Ever
Glovebox Glock vs Rodney and The Stangers

Group B
Pastel Mirage vs Portland Burnsiders
Ultralord and the Sheens vs Give me five minutes

Group C
ape masters Bosnia vs onlyfans.com/SpadesSlick
Straight Outta ReSurfed vs TheTragedyOfDarthInkyTheBlot

GROUP D
2wycked esports vs Space Cadets
Purple Air Pods vs Frantic

posted about 4 years ago
#13 RGL Main Pre-Season Social in TF2 General Discussion
chateauthis being streamed?

People be streaming. Idk about casted though....

Sounds like Antlers has a crew ready to cast tomorrow!

posted about 4 years ago
#12 RGL Main Pre-Season Social in TF2 General Discussion
ireeXtine
[url=https://twitter.com/eXtelevision]onlyfans.com/SpadesSlick[/url]
I've been baited

Yyyaaaooooooo.

I'm only giving that SpadesSlick guy so much free advertising. He's not even the real spadez.

posted about 4 years ago
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