i think conductor is banned from tf.tv. and as far as i know the rest of us who had posting access before the purge do not have it anymore.

i already have like half the preds for open playoffs written so i might as well finish em. from the limited time i've had to see some of the "inner workings" of esea news, it seemed like tf2 was a continuous afterthought and pretty much confirmed for me that tf2 is really not important to their community. i appreciated the opportunity by Killing to get paid for doing something i like doing, and for Few for being professional about everything, but its pretty obvious to me that esea is not interested in making any moves forward for the majority of the TF2 community.

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i don't know how often those things actually kick in but i guess we'll see. in the past i remember talking to someone about this exact thing happening but then the seeds just stayed the same. i guess we'll have to wait until post season standings are out HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH

i'll be doing round 1 preds this week :D

hmmm ingenuity is 17th and all in without allen is 16...did something happen to upset the seeds or am i seeing things?

nvm fedora flippers are dead, correct?

remedy is a solid roamer, and can play pocket too. his time on 6cuties opened my eyes to how talented he is, and he deserves a good team. genuinely nice dude most of the time, and you can trust him to be upfront and honest with you.

<3

gimme da butter baby. be my beef daddy.

i'd pick this guy up, he's fierce as fuck and has a lot of good presence on the teams he's been on. Should be high IM/main in my opinion, just hasn't found the right team yet seemingly.

thanks friends! that was fun!

I will be joined by Tankman in our first attempt to cast some Open games for fun!
The match will be the beloved BUDSQUAD vs Quantum Flux on koth viaduct

we'll begin around 8p PST/ 11p EST tonight on miwo's stream. come kick it!

http://www.twitch.tv/miwo_

yeah, thats why i don't think bringing that up was all that relevant. just that the statement that last season was smaller than this one was wrong. is the size of open really the indicator we have that shows growth in this game?

this is not true. last season we had 70 teams in Open, this season we barely had 50 teams. this isn't really that relevant to the rest of your argument but it bugged me enough to want to point out.

while this is true, the fact that he was allowed to be petty and shitty to people (the banning of several long standing members of this community in particular) and there has been nothing said from torbull or shooter to refute his actions bothers me. from a customer service standpoint, this is a terrible move. i would not want to play in a league where an admins actions, no matter how unfair or unjustified, can not be answered by anyone. to use the same logic in a customer service setting outside of esea, if i went to a restaurant or something and a server was rude or ejected me from the restaurant simply because I stated an opinion, its up to me to say "hey, i'm not going to give that place my business anymore."

just as much as its my choice to not want to support a business that i don't think agrees with my principles, you have that same choice. its not right or wrong, its just a choice we make for ourselves as consumers.

in regards to what you're saying about pinebeetle and nahanni, i think there has been an attempt at transparency by pine beetle to reveal some things going on behind the scenes, and nahanni has been releasing regular updates to show what kind of things are in discussion. your question of the length of time of commitment is legitimate, and a valid concern. with that said, nahanni at least has a history of being reliable even in the face of adversity. when she says she is committed to CEVO, i believe her.

regardless of how long this central leadership role nahanni is in lasts, at some point I would hope that she would not be needed to fulfill that role. the CEVO commissioners and admins should and will step in to run their league without the help of members of our community. the question in my mind is not "will this happen?" but more so "when will this happen?" hopefully when the league has gotten on its feet, surely.

thank you for sharing your thoughts, squid.

yeah, this past week has been pretty disgusting. actually this past month has been pretty hard to stomach, both from the community and from esea.

plat does bring up a good point in a lot of his posts that some people in this thread seem to be missing, mainly that the biggest problem with making a new competitive league is a lack of central leadership. for some reason a lot of the people in this community have decided that iT and mix^ are the last word when it comes to whether or not TF2 will stay in esea, when neither of these teams have said or made any kind of action to demonstrate willingness to take on a leadership role. and they shouldn't, honestly.

the word committee keeps coming up as a way to make decisions. this might be the most ass-backwards way of thinking, as i see this community thrive under bandwagon politics. i would not want to play in a league where every feature and decision was decided by a group of radical kneejerkers who hunt for +frags.

yeeeeyeeeee

very well said, shrt. my thoughts exactly!

this is my biggest concern with etf2l. if the NA ruleset is the same as etf2l i would probably not bother playing.