the most important question in this whole pick/ban shit is WHY DO WE NEED IT?

you will still have soldiers running vanilla rl, demos running vanilla stickies, etc.

you will see the same amount of variation you see in games now. everything op will remain banned and the rest will remain niche sidegrades with the exception of the "classics" like gunboats, kritz, etc.

this post is pretty shit tier but i guess i'll bite.

quake came out in 1999. it's 15 years old, no fucking wonder it's dead. plus, games in general are past the "strictly dm" game mode phase.

more variance = more luck based success = lowered skill ceiling = less incentive to try and be the best because you might get fucked over by something like a conch push you had no way of knowing was coming.

fps games are not dota. dota is not an fps. let's stop trying to act like we can adopt a captains mode and it's gonna catapult tf2 into "quake in its prime" territory.

like i said before, with a few unlocks (gunboats, kritz, etc) and few measly months' worth of profits from mann co. store we could have a tf2 international that would ACTUALLY breathe some new life into this game but valves cool with just collecting the paycheck every month from the store so it's never gonna happen.

i would fucking love to have a conversation with robin walker about tf2. i'd ask the hard hitting questions.

you had to know getting into mapping you were gonna catch flak when you changed stuff around @_@

that being said, i feel like a lot of the posts in here with suggestions were pretty reasonable and not people freaking the fuck out/being dicks (aside from #115 and #116)

dont take it so personally, people just want a good map that flows well for 6's, and when you do something like take a mid that was proven to be balanced, fun, and just good overall, and dramatically change it then yeah there's gonna be some people wondering wtf is going on.

in regards to your map: you'd save yourself a ton of time/effort if you copy/pasted the original mid (with the slight change so heavy cant get on roof) and focused on making 2nd/last phenomenal.

don't get discouraged, people giving you input/feedback about your changes means we/they actually give a shit, so that's a good thing.

don't forget to drop a taunt when your airshot someone and know they're gonna crater when they land. nothin brings out the mad like someone falling from the skybox watching you taunt their impending death.

anybody who is deep enough in the elo dumpster to buy points is going to lose that 2400 rating in about 2 days.

i suggest we stage fake "close" mge rounds where players get to "win" like 20-18 against invite players and take screenshots so they can show off to friends. we can even throw in bitter shit talk at the end so it looks legit.

and because he has no fucking clue what a good competitive fps is comprised of.

the less "blind guessing" there is the less variance there is in what you can expect from a given push/hold. this forces players/teams to simply play better and over time raises the skill ceiling.

once you have to start trying to guess what secondary both soldiers are running, on top of the possibility of off class shenanigans you havent spotted yet (spy, sniper, delayed heavy, etc) are coming with a push, the game is going to be incredibly frustrating.

it seems like the folks at valve want 6's to play out like some promo video where you have a conch soldier running dh and a quickfix medic flying in the sky with him instead of having a quality competitive fps game that's continuously raising the skill ceiling by steadily improving with (mostly) vanilla weapons. quake didn't need gimmicky shit, why do we?

also let's be real, valve could use 3 months of manco store profits to host an international-esque tournament and tf2 would be fucking FLOODED with tons of new players, sponsors, etc. and the game would actually get a legitimate shot at being a "real" esport. they could even do the compedium style thing they did with dota so future tournaments would be totally crowd funded. but they wont.

add me zig

so combine horizontal + vertical to make a jump that the heavy misses by a single unit.

idk why you're arguing about this with me, you're wrong and it was a small part of a suggestion i had made for the map.

incorrect.

if you're talking about GRU, you should be balancing the map for 6's whitelist.

ideas:

put a cooldown on airblast so holding m2 isnt an actual way to shut down an uber

ubered targets cant get airblasted

scale back the minicrit dmg of flare (i think like 60 would be a spot to start at, 90 is obviously insane)

fix airblast raping any movement ability whatsoever

for .5-1 second after airblasting pyro takes minicrits

degreaser takes 30-40 metal per airblast to balance weapon switch buff

make airblast arc tiny so you have to have your crosshair close to the projectile/player you want to airblast

treat airblast like heavy revving minigun...airblast = slow as fuck movement speed for 1-1.5 seconds

idk if this is possible but make airblast only able to hit 1 projectile/person per puff.

dude people just want the original mid, that's all. and if you REALLY dont want heavies on top of mid (i agree w that) why not just extend the height/distance of the jump and make it just far enough that a heavy cant make it, but other classes (like medic) still can?

we're a pain in the ass to deal with for custom maps because we've been tortured for far too long

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mid was by far the best part of warmfront. it played well and no one class seemed ridiculous as fuck. just replicate mid and work on the other stuff imo

i get the feeling that this is someone directed here from the reddit ama...enigma should probably sticky a "welcome to tf.tv this is how things work" thread to the top of the sidebar