I don't think harassment only starts with racism.

I also didn't interpret that statement as "we don't deserve a punishment".

EDIT: The purpose of me posting this is not to defend 7 which it might come off as. I just genuinely think you are comparing a bank robbery with someone shoplifting and it comes off as very insensitive.

It's not harassment to call out other people's toxic behaviour or criticise people publicly.

It is harassment to call someone "ugly gook cunt" and endorsing other people who do this.

You are going through some serious mental gymnastics in order to justify your criticism, and it's not lending credit to your argument at all.

Not sure you even read his statement at all, that's the opposite of what he said.

That is a sarcastic statement mocking the entire situation.

Trashtalk isn't even in the same ballpark as harassment and racism. You are not a victim.

It's not okay to tell people to kill themselves but in what universe do you live where it excuses the rampant racism your team is involved in? You're just trying to deflect blame from your teammates (unsuccessfully so).

They are prem players and represent the league. Not punishing public racism and public harassment gives the league a bad image and it makes the harassment problem worse. This also makes it harder for them (EDIT: ETF2L) to get sponsorships as I'm pretty sure sponsors are not happy about paying prize money to people who are publicly harassing other people and are proud of it.

People have left and are leaving the community because of the harrassment they receive. Why should they leave, why shouldn't the harrassers leave? ETF2L should definitely care about how their prem players represent their public image, not taking action against this behaviour hurts the scene more than it helps.

That might be a factor, but it really does not excuse the treatment Dreamboat and Getawhale have experienced. They deserve a better treatment than this. It really looks like things have been left too late again. Promotional stuff needs to be planned like, right now in order to build hype towards the event. That can be done mostly independently from Multiplay.

The success of this event determines if TF2 will be at insomnia in the future. If there's no promotion, it WILL flop. Last year, the reason given for the lack of promotion was that TF2 was announced too late. This year it was announced super early, but now it's less than a month until the event and there hasn't been much promotion (if any) at all. This can be done independently of Multiplay.

Last year legitimate criticism was deflected with the excuse that they only had two months to plan before the event.

This year they start planning one month before the event.

I didn't really look at your map, I just took your word for it.

Back in the days the desk space at LAN was considerably smaller so people played with keyboards on the lap to practice for playing in LAN environment. Nowadays you get more desk space at LAN so it makes russian style kind of useless.

Does RSI count?

Gemm's version doesn't seem to be properly compiled and I'm not personally a fan of the filename he used (don't think it can be used officially). Anyway, I compiled the map with a minor bugfix and reverted the cap time of the last points.

Also stealing the b6 name from collaide to make it sound more official

cp_prolands_b6
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* Lowered cap time from 2 seconds to 1 second on last.
* Fixed a new hiding spot near resupply area where you could stand on top of an invisible wall.

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Download: cp_prolands_b6.bsp

EDIT:

420.Collaide: i approve
420.Collaide: official b6

kalabalik

USA not playing this nations cup, did they get knocked out by Trinidad and Tobago again?

COMING HOME STATUS: THEY'RE