Met him at LAN. Very nice guy.
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eXtine, may I please cast a match with you at LAN?
They better fix the internet issues that they had last time.
I'll be going.
It's rather early to be looking for a team for next season. I'd wait a few more weeks for openings to actually develop.
keni have the ticket but i have to study for final :<
Doesn't OSU-Michigan sell for about $120-200 USD?
This is really sweet of you, Tery.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Quality team. I hope you guys can find a solid sixth to properly finish the season. They were a fun team to scrim against earlier this season.
Nahanniradium If CEVO is to be taken seriously as a replacement for ESEA....
Stop saying that CEVO is "replacing" ESEA!! That is not the goal or the focus!! ESEA can be here and is an important piece for invite. Again I think everyone recognizes that. CEVO needs to be supported for a community based league that ESEA is not currently giving. Period. If people want ESEA lan and ESEA then play it! No one is stopping you here. There should not be any reason why the community should be able to support CEVO in having a league they can call home. Invite needs ESEA and lan as CEVO at this point cannot compete with the ESEA lan and prize pot. At least not at this point.That does not mean it wont be able to in the future.
All this bickering back and forth because people have it in their heads it is one or the other. If teams choose CEVO over ESEA because of what happened then great. If they want to play both to keep ESEA going and help support CEVO then fine. If people just play ESEA and not support CEVO then I don't ever want to hear again how TF2 doesn't have a good community league and how ESEA is shit ever again!!!! CEVO and I are giving you an opportunity to build a league that is "community based and supported". It is simply up to the community to now step up to the plate, show their support and help us make it happen. If ESEA lives then great, our invite players can still fight it out for the lan that ESEA provides; then go for it guys! I wish you luck! I wish none of you any ill will and still hold you in high regard.
Thank you for the clarification. This is the first time that I've heard someone say that CEVO is NOT going to replace ESEA. This needed to be said a while back. I look forward to CEVO updates as they come along.
I'll be doing both leagues next season.
zephyrHigh level tf2 has been comprised of less than 20 people for a handful of seasons now. Saying LAN finals are NECESSARY for the game to stay alive is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. Most of the action in the NA scene right now is everywhere but invite. Why should everyone else suffer for a couple of self-righteous pricks who think they're whats holding the game together. Go fuck yourself MR SLIN, invite's a joke now. If anything, I can see community driven LAN finals making the game improve in every aspect. Also considering that events run by the community gives access to literally anyone who wants to attend. Just picture LAN finals with maybe a hundred or so other community members, that would be sweet. I'm sure CEVO would back an event like that and give incentive to the douchebags who want prizes for their gaming expertise.
I'd like to retort.
The ESEA LAN is a spectacle that transcends any individual player or team that ever takes part in the event. Tens of thousands of viewers get up at weird hours of the day to watch TF2 matches take place - and the league puts on a "show" to please the masses. Hundreds of new Open players over the course of the last few seasons have migrated to ESEA competition (which is the definitive competition in TF2) due to this event. This new blood then invests ($$) into the league, and the prize pot/divisions are expanded in order to meet the needs of the community. The ESEA LAN is like our Super Bowl in a way - and the exposure/marketing aspect of this event should not be overlooked. The removal of an invite-caliber LAN event would have an adverse effect on the entry rate of "new blood" into SERIOUS 6s competition.
If CEVO is to be taken seriously as a replacement for ESEA, then it must include a similar spectacle or we will be running the risk of losing out on potential "new blood".
In a perfect world, every team should be striving to reach this pinnacle one day. The ESEA LAN should be what is driving the competition at all levels of TF2.
He's good enough to play in the new IM provided his DM is back to where it once was.
Pretty nice person from what I can remember as well.
Having an invite LAN is very important to our community - but I don't think it matters what league we get it from. I think the litmus test will be whether or not CEVO can come close to matching ESEA in terms of services provided to the teams in the league.
I would like to see what CEVO comes up with for next season before passing further judgement. Nahanni and Co. are only at the "meeting stage" right now. We have no idea how good or bad this "master plan" actually is. I will give CEVO a shot next season out of good faith - but I want to see physical progress before joining the bandwagon.
mKissmeonly the top 2 or 3 teams in Invite would really break even/gain anything.
it has been said multiple times
lan isnt about gaining/breaking even (in a smaller game like tf2) as much as its about the experience of playing at the highest level on the most even field
it really bugs me how many people who say lan isnt necessary have never played 6v6 on lan
its literally a different game
Interesting points, mason.
I've been to three LANs - but I never really felt a difference in play. Most people played like they did over the internet in terms of style and overall level of play.
Personally, I think what makes any LAN tournament special is the "overall environment" of the event. The event itself is almost as big as the games that are being played, and I think it's a great coming together moment for people that have spent a long time around each other in mumble.
I remember getting half of my buy-in money back at the end of GXL - but to be honest it wasn't the financial "award" that made me happy. The money was simply a marker of team achievement in a LAN tournament - I beat out someone else for this.
I think that players who can ascend to the pinnacle of the NA scene should have this kind of experience - provided that there is a legitimate plan to fund this event.
Is LAN is a "paid vacation"? Yes. Should the community have to pay out of the eyes for it? No. Do we need a LAN to keep the blood pumping? Yes.
I think the correct move is to reassess how an "invite LAN" is funded and ran - and not to remove the event altogether.
CaspianBerethCEVO's forfeiting policy is pretty bad from my understanding.
Not really. If you don't respond to a match proposal then you forfeit. 90% of the games this season have been forfeits though so it does look pretty bad.
Also not every team is going to switch to CEVO. So all this is going to do is split the community. GG.
Not really, I can see a number of teams - mine included - that will multi-league next season.
My IM team will be playing in CEVO next season. I'm also going to do ETF2L as well (provided they form the division).
I have no issues giving both leagues a shot if they're going to put in the work to help the NA scene.