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#2791 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Cooling is about surface area, so no, a cooler with about 1/4 the surface are won't perform nearly as well.

You can get a single tower 120/140mm if you want something slightly smaller, but don't go below 120mm.

posted about 7 years ago
#2789 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Yes.
Yes.
Wtf is that cooler though. Seriously, full ATX case, full ATX mobo but a small form factor cooler?

EDIT:
Extension cables on a PSU are actually retarded. Especially if it's modular so you can just BUY LONGER CABLES.
You know, unlike non-modular PSUs where if the magic he thinks that protects them from having too short cables fails you have to use extension cables. Which is retarded and unsafe.
Are you sure the problem isn't just him not having any modular PSUs in stock and trying to sell you a non-modular one?

posted about 7 years ago
#2787 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Why would a modular PSU with more cables than a non-modular PSU have too few cables?
Why would a non-modular PSU with fixed cable lengths be more likely to have the correct length than a modular PSU with multiple different lengths? Apart from standard like the ATX 24 pin which is in the exact same position on every mobo and therefore requires the same length on every build.

I mean with the Seasonic Focus Plus Gold you get cables for
1 CPU
1 GPU (2x8pin)
6x SATA
3x IDE
You can buy more if you want more GPUs, HDDs, whatever.
Or get the 650W with cables for 2 GPUs (4x8pin) and 8x SATA.
Or the 750W with cables for 2 GPU, 2 CPUs (because why not?) and the same 8x SATA.
And so on.

It's 150W per 8 pin + 75W from the PCIe slot so if you're trying to run 2 GPUs that need more than a single 8 pin then those GPUs are legally allowed to draw >450W. Maybe Seasonic not including the cables to do that on a 550W PSU is their way of telling everyone that it shouldn't be done.

posted about 7 years ago
#2785 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Probably not if you keep the cooler. Otherwise yes.

http://cdn.overclock.net/d/df/df50d7d4_z370lineup-WIP.png

posted about 7 years ago
#2783 PC Build Thread in Hardware

The Maker 92 is a pure marketing gimmick especially considering the price. The 212 Evo is budget cooler and that's how it performs.

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/CoolerMaster/Masterliquid_Maker_92/images/temp_oc_aida64_fpu.png

Marginally better mobo.
Actual midrange would be something like an Asus Strix-G or MSI SLI Plus or Pro Carbon.
If you're looking at >60$ coolers then you want to go a bit above that so something like an Asus Z370-A, MSI Gaming M5, Gigabyte Gaming 5 or ASRock Extreme 4.

posted about 7 years ago
#2781 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2781
Yes. Like I said, new CPUs are coming and DRAM should become cheaper again. So if you plan on keeping the CPU for 7 years then you should wait a few months. Dates for the next wave of Coffee Lake aren't quite confirmed, could be April right around Ryzen, could be later.
No, not within a month. Samsung got a new fab going online in Q1 (and then production still needs to ramp up + 1 month for actually shipping the RAM) and another in Q3 and apparently SK Hynix will also finish building a new fab sometime this year that will double their production. So within a year, but not within a month.

Maybe get a better mobo if you want to get a good overclock on the 8700K. What cooler do you have anyway?

#2782
I mean it's probably the only 1070 you can find at that price, so yes. It's not bad either.

posted about 7 years ago
#2778 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2778
Which parts? Because you mentioned CPU, RAM, GPU, storage, cooler, PSU.
What I'm trying to tell is if you want a build for the next 5-7 years then buying RAM and GPU right now while the prices for both are at an all time high due to shortages is really stupid.

#2779
Yes.
No, if you want you can check who actually made the RAM (Samsung, SK Hynix or Micron) then you can do that. Mostly matters for really high frequencies and if you want to overclock the RAM even further.

posted about 7 years ago
#2775 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2775
Well how are they going to adress the shortages?
They certainly don't have thousands of GPUs lying around.
Just make more? Well TSMC and GF can't magically make manufacturing capacities appear out of thin air, otherwise they'd always do so and make a shit ton of money. But let's pretend AMD/nVidia are willing to throw enough money at them so they push back other customers' orders (iPhones aren't sell that well right now anyway).
We're even assuming air freight to avoid the 1 month shipping time via container.
Well then you only need to have the chips fabbed and the cards assembled and in only 3-4 months you'll have some shiny new GPUs.
Oh wait, no one knows what Ethereum will be worth in 3-4 months, so let's not throw money at this while only hoping that it doesn't crash.

Basically unless AMD/nVidia can accurately predict the price of Ethereum over the next 4+ months it makes no sense for them to change anything. And if they could then they'd either buy ETH themselves or just sell/lease that magic crystall ball they've got to some stockbrokers and get filthy rich.

#2776
Good luck. Everyone has been waiting for the GPU market to settle down for over a year and instead it just got worse.

If you're getting enough fps and just want them to be more consistent a 1080 might be a bit overkill.

Mostly you'll need a better CPU for streaming if you're not getting enough fps right now. Cheapest option would be a used i7-4790K. I really don't think this is the best time for almost a full build.
New AMD CPUs coming soon-ish (APUs february, CPUs in April), new Intel CPUs later this year, possibly with 8 cores.
RAM is still way too expensive.
GPUs are ridiculously expensive.

posted about 7 years ago
#2772 PC Build Thread in Hardware
murkscribewith the price of the 1080 ti being 1200 bucks, might as well buy a titan Xp.

Those cost 1500$ now though.

posted about 7 years ago
#2769 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Well how flexible is your budget?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($379.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($87.95 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($156.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - T-Force DARK 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($362.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($299.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba - P300 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.88 @ Other World Computing)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Turbo Video Card ($1199.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Case: Fractal Design - Define C ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2705.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-12 13:13 EST-0500

And no, that 1080 Ti price is not a joke.

Different PSU shouldn't be necessary but you could get 650W if you really want. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WrNypg/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fx

1. Intel never does price drops.
2 .Intel says everything is working as intended.

Intel and other technology companies have been made aware of new security research describing software analysis methods that, when used for malicious purposes, have the potential to improperly gather sensitive data from computing devices that are operating as designed. Intel believes these exploits do not have the potential to corrupt, modify or delete data.

https://newsroom.intel.de/news-releases/intel-responds-security-research-findings/

Any cooler would do, but how high do you want to overclock it?

As someone summed it up:
> building a PC in 2018
> can't buy CPUs because of Spectre
> can't buy GPUs because of mining
> can't buy RAM because of smartphones

posted about 7 years ago
#8 which 144hz? in Hardware

It's exactly like Lightboost.
If you want more options then you can use this https://www.blurbusters.com/benq/strobe-utility/ but only on the Zowie.
So you can't use FreeSync and the Zowie offers the most options for strobing and it's also the cheapest.
I think you can figure it out from here.

posted about 7 years ago
#4 Gravel Pit in TF2 General Discussion

Gravel Pit will go on for as long as it has to.

Cheers

Byte

posted about 7 years ago
#6 which 144hz? in Hardware

Do you want strobing? XG2401 doesn't have it.
If you do have an AMD GPU then the LG 24GM79G-B would still offer an additional feature, even if you don't absolutely need it.
Also, price?

posted about 7 years ago
#2766 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2766
1. What is your budget?
2. What is the problem right now? If you're not getting enough fps in general then you need a better GPU. If you only have trouble when streaming then you only need a better CPU.
3. Forget about SLI.
4. If you're willing to set up a second pc for streaming then you can get some old dual socket server, should be fairly cheap, and you'll get better encoding performance than anything you could afford new because even if they're old a dozen cores is still a dozen cores.

If you'll buy it in one or two months you can just wait until then to figure out whether or not you're going to buy Volta. Spoiler: If it's not released then you probably won't. There might also just be another round of Pascal because Volta isn't actually faster in games according to the early benchmarks. I mean looking at the differences between Pascal and Volta.
1. New tensor cores
2. Removing the second warp scheduler dispatch unit & eliminating superscalar execution
3. Separating the Integer cores
4. Finer-grained thread scheduling

1 is absolutely useless in games.
2 is good for power efficiency, but hurts performance.
3 is useless again because it'll be mostly floats anyway. Good for adress calculations so it offsets 2 a bit.
4 isn't being used in games so far.

#2767
Budget?
What would I recommend for what? I don't know what you're going to use it for.
Also good luck getting a 1080 Ti. Ethereum exploded. Again.
2TB HDD in addition to the SSD or just an HDD?
EDIT: 2TB or 5TB HDD? What logic is that?

You'll have to reinstall the OS & programs unless you want weird shit to happen. You can copy the rest.

posted about 7 years ago
#5 FPS test in Hardware

I should've said avoid the most noticeable screen tearing.
Basically this https://www.blurbusters.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/blur-busters-gsync-101-filmstrip-vsync-off-144hz-288fps.png
is better than having the tear line(s) jump all over the place. When for different parts of the screen the next displayed part of the frame has moved a different number of frames (e.g. 0, 1 and 2) motion can look really jittery and weird.

posted about 7 years ago
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