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#2589 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Not a fan of the 212 Evo but I'm too lazy to copy pase the reasons. Surely you can afford a better cooler though?
Mobo is a bit overkill, check which features you actually need.
Seagate Barracuda or Toshiba P300 are faster and usually cheaper than a WD Blue.
No SSD?
Not a fan of the 200R, like I said before it's basically a 40$ case but Corsair expects you to pay 80$ for it.
<350W build. 650W PSU. That's a bit overkill, there's no way you're going to need that much even with overclocking.

Rest looks fine.

posted about 7 years ago
#23 Sticky traps in TF2 General Discussion
gemmTraps are a crutch for people who can't airsticky

Airsticky got nerfed, now you've got to put them on the floor anyway. Or aim.

@OP: Empty server. Put sticky. Walk in from where opponents would walk in. Can you see the sticky?
Yes -> Try again.
No -> This is now a trap.

Also you can make people look in a different direction.
Planning to bomb in a soldier? -> Whole floor is now trappable.
Dropdown -> ceiling trap
Door -> trap left side and right side. People will try to get as far away as possible from the stickies they saw and walk backwards/sidewards into those they didn't see.
Sticky towards the side of a choke, then spam the choke with pipes. They don't look at the pipes / don't move / check for stickies -> free damage. They move -> trap
Fucked up your push and everyone thinks there's no time to set up traps -> Enemies will only look forward, put some stickies on a random corner, but not inside the chokepoints where they'll check. E.g. gullywash mid is full of "corners" including the nipple.

posted about 7 years ago
#2587 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Well rumour has it that next year there will be 8 cores and Z390, Intel might screw everyone looking to upgrade over again.
After that comes Ice Lake, which is a new architecture which traditionally means a new socket in Intel's case.

MSRP is 257$. Exchange rates aren't that favourable and then there's still tax on top of it so I don't think 220€ is going to happen. It should get a little bit cheaper though once it's in stock.
Like I said it should be doable within 1500€ and there's nothing but Z370 anyway.

Just post again if I forget to check when it's in stock.

posted about 7 years ago
#12 PC Won't Turn On in Q/A Help

Good for you.
I'm just saying it could be goodererer, had you waited one more day.
Or you could saved money.

posted about 7 years ago
#10 PC Won't Turn On in Q/A Help

I have no idea how a new CPU would suddenly turn your monitor into a 4K or 3D monitor or into a VR headset.
A faster CPU is faster.
TF2 loves fast CPUs.

posted about 7 years ago
#2585 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2585
I'll try to make a partlist tomorrow.

EDIT:
Rough sketch of a maxed out build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (€299.99 @ ARLT)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€38.72 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€125.66 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€151.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€94.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€172.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (€536.94 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (€55.82 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€66.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1543.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-07 15:01 CEST+0200
Would obviously have to push it below 1500€, but that's doable.

There's quite a few options for the CPU though.
Only Z370 (same as Z270) has been released and only 300 series chipsets support Coffee Lake, because Intel wants your money. Since for CFL you have to buy a Z chipset anyway the only added cost for overclocking would be a cooler and a K CPU. However the non-K were handicapped a bit as well, 300-400 MHz slower.

Anyway because CFL CPUs aren't at MSRP yet and it will still take a while until they're in stock everywhere if he doesn't want to wait and doesn't want to overclock Kaby Lake can still make sense. E.g. i3-8350K and i5-7600 are basically the same speed and the 7600 is a bit more expensive and locked, but since he doesn't care about that and would be forced to buy a more expensive Z370 mobo (only option for CFL) and a cooler it ends up being cheaper. Same with the i3-8100 and i5-7500/7400.

Now if he does want 6 cores then CFL is basically the only option. He'd have to wait a bit though. If he doesn't want to overclock then the 8600K would be a bit of a waste, sure 0.3 GHz higher boost clocks, but even if he had to get a cooler anyway to ensure the 8400 always gets the full boost it's still a 80€ difference.

So basically 4 cores or 6 cores?
Right now or is later this month still soon enough?

#2586
Any other features for the monitor? 1 ms response time is a lie btw, ignore what it says on the box, only trust reviews.
Other than that just post again in the week he'll build it so I can make an up to date partlist.

posted about 7 years ago
#2582 PC Build Thread in Hardware

It's not like it wouldn't run without overclocking, just about performance. In most games it probably won't make difference, you're more likely to be limited by the GPU.

You should select a mobo based on the features you want/need, not just which brand you remember.
Newegg is shipping from the US, so add 19% tax and x% customs. It will neither be cheaper nor faster than ordering from German shops. Do you mean geizhals?

Wouldn't make a difference for browsing. Generally K = overclocking, although the stock clockrates are higher I don't think it's enough to justify the >50€ difference + price for a cooler you'd have to pay if you don't overclock.
I'll have to see how the budget works out.

Any specific games?

posted about 7 years ago
#2580 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2578
Resolution/size/features for the monitor?
ARK/Dota would be GPU limited and PUBG doesn't runs like shit anyway so he could away with an i3, now that they got 4 cores. i7 would definitely overkill, I'd just wait and see how it works out with the budget, but probably an i5.
Overclocking yes/no?

#2579
When is he going to build?
Overclocking yes/no?
MSI - X370 is not a mobo. That's a manufacturer and a chipset. Also why would you order from newegg with a budget in €?
Don't need a 600W PSU, just a good PSU.
There's not much point in 8 cores / 16 threads for gaming. New 4c/4t i3s should be much cheaper and faster, 6c/6t i5 at most.
XFire/SLI used to be ok-ish and will never be good again. SFR is way too much work, AFR is basically a gimmick but still wasted effort because why even bother when you can force your customers to buy a new faster GPU? Old used GPUs being added later doesn't make them any money and people buying two GPUs instead of one that's more than twice as expensive isn't good for them either. For those that would've bought 4 600$ GPUs for 4-way SLI you just support 2-way SLI on the high end GPUs and disable it for all others and make the fastest GPU a 1200$ Titan. More profit, less effort.

#2580
Please no 212 Evo.
Coffee Lake has been released, Kaby Lake recommendations make no sense at all.

#2581
It hasn't even been half a day since launch. Before that shops weren't even technically allowed to list it. We'll see how bad or good the supply situation is tomorrow. Launch prices are inflated anyway, so unless you have to buy right now I'd wait anyway.

posted about 7 years ago
#2575 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2575

SetsulSetsul2 1 0 days.

#2576
Should be more or less equal, depending on the program, but we have to wait for reviews.
Keep in mind though that the 1700 is quite a bit cheaper by itself and overclocking doesn't cost extra like for the 8700K.
The release already caused a nice price drop for Ryzen, but Coffee Lake is only the better option if you need the single threaded performance.

posted about 7 years ago
#8 PC Won't Turn On in Q/A Help

You dropped 700 on upgrades 1 day before new CPUs are released?
Like a true mong.

posted about 7 years ago
#2572 PC Build Thread in Hardware
Setsul2 1 days.
posted about 7 years ago
#2569 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#2569
Depends on what you consider decent.
I'd look for used parts though so you can at least get a decent CPU.

#2570
Yes, in 2 days.

posted about 7 years ago
#9 star wars: battlefront II (2005) in Other Games
Tino_I am 99% sure i still have my original installation discs laying around somewhere

I've got the original box right it front of me. That thing has been in the front row on the shelf for a decade, basically next to Empire At War, which I HAVE JUST HEARD ALSO GOT AN UDPATE A MONTH AGO.
I AM READY, I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO READY!

posted about 7 years ago
#2 New build force reset in Hardware

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wisdom_of_the_ancients.png

posted about 7 years ago
#2565 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Ok, what about ULMB/Lightboost/Strobing? You can't use it at the same time as G-Sync/FreeSync though.
If you don't need that then FreeSync monitor + AMD GPU is going to be cheaper, otherwise probably G-Sync monitor (with ULMB) + nVidia GPU.

Any news on Threadripper prices? The 1920X costs the same as an i7-7900X, even though it's 200 USD cheaper, so it's not really worth it when you can get an 8 core RyZen for less than half the price.

1700 + cooler for overclocking, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 4TB HDD, RX 580 or somethng like that, FreeSync monitor and even a nice IPS monitor (e.g. Dell U2415) look doable though.

posted about 7 years ago
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