TurboliciousGood team, would start as demo for.
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TurboliciousGood team, would start as demo for.
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SteveCMr_PerfectIf your going to -Frag me please just leave a post as to why. I would like to know you disagree with me.
You're trying to teach a Plat+ demo/sniper(whatever smaka plays nowadays) your shitty version of the gold metagame.
Not trying to teach him how to play. Just disagreeing with his opinions and stating my own so that others can see different views.
smakersIn every 9v9 HL game, the following are all but guaranteed:
A player will get a backstab by stabbing an enemy in the face.
A pseudo-random mini-crit will occur at some point which will either trigger or stifle a push.
A pyro will ignite a cloaked or disguised spy by pure accident.
A perfect flank will be spoiled because one of the 9 players on the other team will be out of position.
Interesting points but you didn't think all of them through:
Back stab looks like a face stab? Thats the mechanics of Lag Compensation. On the server it is a perfectly good stab but on the screen of the spy and your own screen it may look like a face stab.
Again with the "random" mini crits, what are you saying? Are you talking about pyros being decent at hitting flares? Or maybe a scout using the soda popper or something?
It's not random, good pyros check spots that spies frequent, really it is up to the spy to dodge the pyro.
Players out of position? Guess what that happens in 6s too!
smackersIs it fun to play heavy and get headshot by a sniper when there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent him from shooting you?
Is it fun to play scout and push only to find a sentry is in some random place which either kills you, weakens you, or gives away your otherwise perfect flank?
Is it fun to play medic and get cabered by a demo being an idiot?
Is it fun to play sniper and get focused by the enemy spy?
Is it fun to play engineer and have your buildings harassed by the spy?
Is it fun to play medic and get killed because your demo or soldier fired an explosive and a pyro intentionally or accidentally reflected it?
Is it fun to be a cloaked spy and get set on fire because you happened to walk around a corner where a pyro randomly walks through and clicks anywhere on his screen?
Is it fun to play soldier and be reflected/airblasted constantly by a pyro who then gets free criticals with any weapon he selects?
Is it fun to play medic and get stunned by a scout who accidentally hits a baseball at the right moment, then throws a guillotine causing you to drop the uber you couldn't even deploy due to the stun?
Any class can avoid snipers, and you have several others that are dedicated to killing them: Scout, Soldier and Sniper.
Most sentries aren't in random places around the map. There is a very standard meta to HL sentry placement. It may vary some but it is not normally game changing.
I main med in Gold HL I have never seen a demo jump me with a caber. Sorry that you had a bad experience in a Lobby.
I can guarantee you that the Enemy spy is not focusing you as sniper. Although you are a bonus, he is looking for the combo classes to pick: Demo, Heavy, Med and sometimes Engi (While he is defending).
Most Engineers have their sentries near the combo, the combo also has a pyro with them. If your sentry gets sapped then it is every ones fault that is around the sentry, because they didn't check for spies. ***CHECKING FOR SPIES MEANS TURN AROUND EVERY 3-4 SECONDS***
When would a pyro ever unintentionally reflect a rocket/pipe? Good pyros have fast reaction times and can actually AIM the reflected projectile.
Again pyros don't randomly spy check.
Just because the pyro is decent at hitscan and projectile shooting (Reserve Shooter and Flaregun) doesn't mean you cant kill him.
Your last point is the ONLY one I agree with. Yes it would be very annoying if someone did this, sadly it doesn't happen often and if they hit it than they had some pretty sick aim.
tl;dr Stop complaining about game mechanics (backstab looks like facestab), Stop complaining about the other team having a an "annoying" class, you have one as well. There is a set meta in HL that 99% teams follow. Pyros do showcase individual skill, they use hitscan as well as projectile weaponry. Literally just look behind you every few seconds, makes it harder for the spy to get you.
If your going to -Frag me please just leave a post as to why. I would like to know you disagree with me.
Basically people don't like it because its different. It will always be seen as less skillful even though thats not necessarily true.
mthere is a class that has invisibility and an instant kill button
there is a class that builds robots that aim for him or have bullets with no falloff
there is a class that right clicks and stuns you
and i havent even talked about heavy yet
People complain about all time heavy and engie yet they have an all time heavy and engie too. A lot of people complain about spies and snipers yet there are easy counters to each, such as; spy checking (turning around every 3-4 seconds) or having a soldier/scout harass the sniper.
2sy_morphiend The end result is a slower paced game with little chance for stellar individual play (outside of maybe 2 classes) to be showcased.
I can think of plenty of classes that can showcase skill: Demo, Soldier, Scout, Sniper and Spy. All of those classes can completely change the momentum of the game just like they can in 6s.
It can be slow at times but it is also very face paced at others. 6s is the EXACT same way. In 6s there can be stalemates on pushing from mid to 2nd or if you wipe their team at mid, you may already be at their 2nd/last before they even have respawns. In HL the same thing can happen, teams can either wait for a pick or can totally steam roll the other team.
gr8stalina pyro who is constantly critting for no good reason,
Are you referring to pyros being decent at hitting their flares/using their melee?
tl;dr Each team has the same classes, and can be countered by other classes. HL can be a little slower but so can 6s.
I am color deficient(blind)
Your Score: 169
Green and Blue :/
You could also come to Newbie Mixes, we host them every week Saturday 9-12 EST. Later this week there will be a Event on the far left that will pop up with all the information needed to join. I would highly recommend it to you and other newer players, because you get a competitive format with a coach to help guide you.
The stream was running fine when Bush was president. Thanks Obama.
The Newbie Mix team could lend up to 10 servers to this tournament if need arises. If you would like, you can add me and discuss it
fsXDPrototypesflippersDoes anyone here do a hybrid style where they use their full hand on the left side of the keyboard and then the index finger on the right... cause thats what I do.omg i do this lets be friends
i want to join this because this is exactly whta i do
nooo i thought i was a unique individual! :'(
TechnobladePhrakturei dont play on alts because im liked. i play on alts because im infamous for playing demoman/trying too much.
If you have to use alt accounts because you're so gay in MGE word has spread, you probably ought to change the way you MGE.
instead of just making more people suffer
I've always enjoyed playing against Phrakture in MGE, he plays exactly like demomen play in a match, he goes for the air stickies and then puts the stickies down around him. I honestly dont see anything wrong with that style of play, every time that I MGE him I feel that I improve because I'm playing against someone better than me, I used to only get 1 or maybe 2 points, but now when I MGE him I'm getting around 8 or so.
It's not his style of play thats bad its your attitude to it. If someone beats you they beat you, unless they are hacking or cheating then it shouldnt matter because they showcased how they did something you either couldnt adapt to or couldnt over come.