You need a report system that's a little more varied. For example, report for being bad, report for leaving, report for never showing, gentle report just to get a new player (tech issues being communicated via mumble), report for harassment. These kinds of reports should be tallied in the profile. Leaving should count as ragequit. Never showing should be reliability. Being bad should be its own system that shows flags once this happens too often from multiple reports in multiple games, so players can tell if someone is just going to fuck around. Gentle reports shouldn't be able to be executed by players ingame, but rather by the actual person themselves (targeting themselves) from the lobby webpage. That way, if they can't get into TF2 or something else is going on, they can immediately request a sub with no penalty to themselves (tech issues are bound to crop up).

I just want to tag on with my personal experience that happened a few days ago.

I was in an NA HL lobby, it was on Viaduct. I played Medic and was rolling kritz. I pushed up to mid with my team (via comms) and kritzed the demo, who was in mumble along with everyone else, but wasn't talking. Instead of spamming out the enemy combo that was holding behind rock along with all of the rest of their teammates (blatantly stupid), the demo focused on the engie that was wrenching (and missing every shot, mind) close up. The entire kritz was wasted because the demo spammed at his feet and tried to kill the engie, missing every time. Of course, I called out the demo for it in mumble, but I wasn't overly aggressive. Everyone else saw and started name calling and other immature shit.

By the time we respawned (the demo ended up getting the engie at the very end of the kritz, but blew himself up with the same sticky), obviously we were needed by our team. The demo was trying to type in chat and apologize rather that hop on mic. Obviously he was a little frustrated. We lost the first round, so then round 2 begins.

Straight out of the gate, everyone attacks the demo in mumble and forces him to switch to heavy so a more experienced player can hop to demo. Fine by me, okay. But now the heavy stands outside spawn typing to us and trying to attack back, or defend himself, or whatever, rather than sucking it up and going back to playing the game. He also called us out for tryharding in a lobby, apparently. I guess not wanting to lose is tryharding. Anyway, eventually the team kicks the heavy off to engie by the end of the game, and we get a new heavy. Near the very end of the game, we hear crying on comms but we can't figure out who it is.

After the game, Center dumps everyone from the game into the same mumble channel and we say our GGs... But then the demo/heavy/engie starts speaking up. She had been crying on comms during the tail end and I really felt bad, so I apologized and left, not wanting to deal with the possible shitstorm.

Apparently the rest of the players all ganged up on her (even the one other girl in the match) and bullied her for playing poorly (demo is apparently her worst class and she was lobbying to get better), being a sore loser (wat), etc. It really took a toll on her. She added me to friends later that evening (like, 6 hours later; I was in the middle of a cast at the time) and we talked a lot about what happened. Apparently talking it out with her (supporting her, etc; I of course apologized because I'm not a dick) made her feel a lot better afterward, so that was nice.

It absolutely sickens me how hostile and immature the Center community is. I'm not really sure what's causing it to get so bad, but it's leading me to drift from doing lobbies to doing pugs and scrims. It's gotten worse than pubs. Sure, the OP's rant seems like a day gone bad and things are being exaggerated and whatnot, but I know what I saw and Center is beginning to sicken me.

Here's a test demo for you, whayay. Starts around wave 4/6 and lasts awhile. The only thing it doesn't show is sapper and med shield recharge bars.

EDIT: Wow I'm silly and didn't link it, here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/smsauy0vtajj79s/mvmtest.dem

Hey, is it just me or with the new flhud can you not see a medic's uber percentage as a Spy with the disguise kit? Also, can the scrollwheel weapon switch weapon showing be available as an option? I don't like being unable to see the weapon I'm switching to. I think you made this change within the past few days but I can't find the exact commit.

Also it appears that the tournament mode ready up symbols on the top aren't actually center aligned to the circle. I think the X is off by 3 or 4 pixels to the left. Might just be my resolution, 1600x900.

The placement of the KOTH timers is much better now, but maybe this is just me being upset that I have to remake my leaderboard for this new version, but I'd kinda like there to be some possible way for me to regain the old KOTH timers from the old FLV version. Which file has them in it, and would it be possible to make some kind of hybrid? Or maybe I could completely use the old spec HUD, since other things like advspec don't look right with the new one.

In the loadout menu, while you can left click and drag the player model to rotate, you can also right click and drag to zoom in/out and middle click and drag to reposition. Something tells me that isn't intended.

Loadout. I mean circles behind items rather than the current rectangle, at least on the main loadout page and not the backpack selection.

It's up to you in the end. Maybe I just need to play more with it.

Not quite sure how to translate my vectors into physical icons, so I'm not sure how reliable I'd be for that. I could make bitmaps though.

By standard round timer I mean the single timer that appears in modes like 5CP. How does the KOTH timer clip with the new win panel? The _only_ thing that should be at the top of the screen there is the timer.

Also I found a bug. Hello pretty sapper. :3
http://puu.sh/8Bk5t.png

Sticky woohoo!

I just wish a few aspects could be customized:

• Duration, it only appears for what, two seconds? It needs to be like 6 so I don't miss it in case I was paying attention to something else.
  
• Font size! For some reason, maybe it's just my resolution but it looks tiny to me. Very easy to miss.

As for feedback on flvhud:

• Adore the spectator UI. The soft circles remind me of Google's Holo Card design style.
  
• Why not use those same circles for the backdrop for class loadouts? As it is, the current loadout screen feels like it's going for a hackeresque minimalist approach merged with something modern. Could definitely use a touchup and I think that might do it.
  
• The numbers in the spy menu are far too small. I think increasing the size of the circles and numbers would drastically help. It might even be cool to have the bottom of the circle protrude from the white background, like so: http://puu.sh/8BfmI.png (open this in an image editor or use Firefox, since it has a transparent background)
  
• Speaking of which, having class icons instead of portraits on the disguise menu might help clean it up, too, especially if they were flat. I could come up with a nice set of themed icons if you'd like.
  
• I feel like the round timers should still be center aligned. In order to be optimal for my current spectating layout/scoreboard/overlay, it would be best for the koth timers to be exactly as they used to be on flv, and for the standard round timer to fill the same region as the two koth timers, with a bunch of extra gray space to the left and right to make up for it. How easy would this be to implement?

I'm not a C++ dev but I know a fair bit of C. Looking at that, wouldn't it be simple to literally just scrap the entire damned thing for only one draw method and then just have properties of it be filled in via parameters, which could be defined by configs/commands/cvars? I mean, it would be quite a refactor, but wouldn't it be better in the end?

Also dear god is the flvhud advspec version horrendous. I mean, it looks great and I'm really glad it's there. I don't at all mean your work isn't appreciated; seriously, good going dude. For what it was meant to do, it functions fantastically. But not only is your warning about it not scaling well for other HUDs important... It doesn't scale for anything outside of the original setup. If TF2's resolution isn't 1080p, not only does it not scale with the rest of the UI correctly, but even the goddamn offset cvars are off. For example, I'm at 1600x900. When I set advspec_medic_info_offset_y 17, it actually offsets by about 25 pixels. I guess I'll just use it in the bottom left of the screen rather than try to integrate it with my player list.

Keep in mind that repair nodes could stack over allied buildings and multiple repair nodes could repair each other. Also, an engineer didn't have to stand by his buildings in order for them to heal, like he practically has to do in combination with the Wrangler. Also also, the Wrangler only applies to his sentry, and not all buildings at once.

Additionally, it actually was intended to replace the Dispenser or Teleporter. The real reason this was removed (besides being imbalanced) isn't actually mentioned in the video, and it reeks (in a good way) of Valve playtesting. They felt that replacing the dispenser or teleporter (the two most important buildings) with a building that literally only aided allied Engie buildings was incredibly selfish of the Engies involved, and led the rest of their team to not view them as team players (not having a dispenser for ammo or teleporters to get to the field faster is a death sentence in most cases).

Made a video showcasing AdvSpec and my leaderboard, but mostly showcasing SpecTools. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO24V0xwP1c

SpecTools actually notifies you of medigun changes already, but it's very rudimentary. It was added in the latest update, and can't be customized too much. It's basically a text popup and you can tell where it should appear (mostly; you can't center it so you have to guess and based on the name it gets misaligned) but you can't change the text size or type or anything like that. If Suyo manages to make his own spec UI, he could easily add a pretty notification that appears next to the Medic that shows an arrow saying "Kritz" or "Medigun" or "Quick-Fix" or "Vacc" or something. Also for debug purposes please Jon and Suyo implement a console command to send a fake medigun change so the notification is triggered, for setup purposes.

Fuck it, I'm just going to make a whole video showing off SpecTools and our setup. Would be great for people to see it in action and would be great for people to see how other casters have things like their leaderboard set up.

First off I just want to say this is fucking ridiculous that an unsigned plugin has to be written that will only work in insecure mode just to fix HUD bugs for a game like this. Seriously Valve, step it up, you're almost getting as bad as Bethesda, where the community fixes more issues than you do.

Anyway, back to you; fantastic work, seriously. It looks great. Do you think you can make the plugin load our current HUD files and make it look like our old HUD did, or would that be too much effort? If not, could we customize it with commands similar to SpecTools?

As for alignment, why not have an alignment key that casters can press to re-align classes if something gets messed up, but just force an alignment right as the match starts, in Scout Scout Soldier Soldier Demo Medic order, and then from then on (unless the command is used), just keep it aligned by the previous order? So if a scout switched to sniper, it'll go Sniper Scout Soldier... or Scout Sniper Soldier depending on who did it. That way everything is consistent. Maybe even show a notification for when a player has left spawn as a new class.