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Valve has no clue about weapon balance?
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Isn't this already being discussed at http://www.teamfortress.tv/34710/is-valve-overcomplicating-weapon-stats
Isn't this already being discussed at http://www.teamfortress.tv/34710/is-valve-overcomplicating-weapon-stats
yeah i don't know what he's bitching about, the LnL is fine right now. it gives the demo a solid primary alternate for taking out sentries reliably.
yeah i don't know what he's bitching about, the LnL is fine right now. it gives the demo a solid primary alternate for taking out sentries reliably.
they're obviously opposed to changing the reserve shooter in some way and if they'd communicate and justify their reasoning for not doing plainly obvious things it'd go a long way
they're obviously opposed to changing the reserve shooter in some way and if they'd communicate and justify their reasoning for not doing plainly obvious things it'd go a long way
apparently the only way they listen is it if you spam their social media pages, give bad reviews to the game,threaten to quit the game, threaten to sell your inventories, spam reddit promoting all of the above.
these are the people they listen to ...
apparently the only way they listen is it if you spam their social media pages, give bad reviews to the game,threaten to quit the game, threaten to sell your inventories, spam reddit promoting all of the above.
these are the people they listen to ...
these are the people they listen to ...
Gemmellnessthey're obviously opposed to changing the reserve shooter in some way and if they'd communicate and justify their reasoning for not doing plainly obvious things it'd go a long way
b4nny said that he had to convince them not to buff it
[quote=Gemmellness]they're obviously opposed to changing the reserve shooter in some way and if they'd communicate and justify their reasoning for not doing plainly obvious things it'd go a long way[/quote]
b4nny said that he had to convince them not to buff it
b4nny said that he had to convince them not to buff it
Remember that geels thread where he basicly tried to say that valve know what they are doing? LUL
Remember that geels thread where he basicly tried to say that valve know what they are doing? LUL
It's almost like every report from a community member was just bragging or self-promotion.... WHO'D HAVE THOUGHT!?!?!
It's almost like every report from a community member was just bragging or self-promotion.... WHO'D HAVE THOUGHT!?!?!
FunsGemmellnessthey're obviously opposed to changing the reserve shooter in some way and if they'd communicate and justify their reasoning for not doing plainly obvious things it'd go a long wayb4nny said that he had to convince them not to buff it
that's not exactly how it was, they wanted to nerf it but when they pitched the idea to b4nny he realized that it would make the weapon better instead of worse, so they didn't intentionally want to make it better, they just failed at making it worse and b4nny stopped them from doing so.
[quote=Funs][quote=Gemmellness]they're obviously opposed to changing the reserve shooter in some way and if they'd communicate and justify their reasoning for not doing plainly obvious things it'd go a long way[/quote]
b4nny said that he had to convince them not to buff it[/quote]
that's not exactly how it was, they wanted to nerf it but when they pitched the idea to b4nny he realized that it would make the weapon better instead of worse, so they didn't intentionally want to make it better, they just failed at making it worse and b4nny stopped them from doing so.
b4nny said that he had to convince them not to buff it[/quote]
that's not exactly how it was, they wanted to nerf it but when they pitched the idea to b4nny he realized that it would make the weapon better instead of worse, so they didn't intentionally want to make it better, they just failed at making it worse and b4nny stopped them from doing so.
I will never understand why people are newly surprised that valve doesn't know anything about balance
it's been the case for longer than some people here have been alive
I will never understand why people are newly surprised that valve doesn't know anything about balance
it's been the case for longer than some people here have been alive
it's been the case for longer than some people here have been alive
they balance weapons based off pubs. hopefully MM will give them i new idea on how to balance weapons in a comp setting? you have to remember where valve is drawing their usage stats from and (up until now) its only been their pub servers
they balance weapons based off pubs. hopefully MM will give them i new idea on how to balance weapons in a comp setting? you have to remember where valve is drawing their usage stats from and (up until now) its only been their pub servers
Why nerf the loch-n-load? It's already dead and unusable, and you'd rather use stock.
Unless I'm missing something and the loch-n-load is actually good...
Why nerf the loch-n-load? It's already dead and unusable, and you'd rather use stock.
Unless I'm missing something and the loch-n-load is actually good...
Unless I'm missing something and the loch-n-load is actually good...
pop7upWhy nerf the loch-n-load? It's already dead and unusable, and you'd rather use stock.
Unless I'm missing something and the loch-n-load is actually good...
its still very good, you can instantly hit pipes on people and they are basically undodgable
[quote=pop7up]Why nerf the loch-n-load? It's already dead and unusable, and you'd rather use stock.
Unless I'm missing something and the loch-n-load is actually good...[/quote]
its still very good, you can instantly hit pipes on people and they are basically undodgable
Unless I'm missing something and the loch-n-load is actually good...[/quote]
its still very good, you can instantly hit pipes on people and they are basically undodgable
mustardoverlordI will never understand why people are newly surprised that valve doesn't know anything about balance
it's been the case for longer than some people here have been alive
People are surprised that valve have allowed one of the most knowledgeable tf2 players into their secret coven, only to blatantly disregard everything he's been trying to convey to them.
[quote=mustardoverlord]I will never understand why people are newly surprised that valve doesn't know anything about balance
it's been the case for longer than some people here have been alive[/quote]
People are surprised that valve have allowed one of the most knowledgeable tf2 players into their secret coven, only to blatantly disregard everything he's been trying to convey to them.
it's been the case for longer than some people here have been alive[/quote]
People are surprised that valve have allowed one of the most knowledgeable tf2 players into their secret coven, only to blatantly disregard everything he's been trying to convey to them.
pop7upWhy nerf the loch-n-load? It's already dead and unusable, and you'd rather use stock.
Unless I'm missing something and the loch-n-load is actually good...
they technically do less damage, but with even passable DM you're hitting every single shot at fairly long ranges, something you can't do as well with other primaries with DM a dozen times better
up until each pipe does like 20 dmg, it's pretty much always going to be a problem weapon
[quote=pop7up]Why nerf the loch-n-load? It's already dead and unusable, and you'd rather use stock.
Unless I'm missing something and the loch-n-load is actually good...[/quote]
they technically do less damage, but with even passable DM you're hitting every single shot at fairly long ranges, something you can't do as well with other primaries with DM a dozen times better
up until each pipe does like 20 dmg, it's pretty much always going to be a problem weapon
Unless I'm missing something and the loch-n-load is actually good...[/quote]
they technically do less damage, but with even passable DM you're hitting every single shot at fairly long ranges, something you can't do as well with other primaries with DM a dozen times better
up until each pipe does like 20 dmg, it's pretty much always going to be a problem weapon
Geel9DecapotatoGeel9Basically all I'm saying is that Valve is way better at what they do than many people here seem to think.
It's not that I don't believe you but when items like the Darwins exist you have to wonder what goes through their minds.
They probably just haven't had the opportunity to iterate on it yet. That may be fixed in the next major update, or maybe not (I do not know if they plan to do anything with the DDS)
[quote=Geel9][quote=Decapotato][quote=Geel9]Basically all I'm saying is that Valve is way better at what they do than many people here seem to think.[/quote]
It's not that I don't believe you but when items like the Darwins exist you have to wonder what goes through their minds.[/quote]
They probably just haven't had the opportunity to iterate on it yet. That may be fixed in the next major update, or maybe not (I do not know if they plan to do anything with the DDS)[/quote]
It's not that I don't believe you but when items like the Darwins exist you have to wonder what goes through their minds.[/quote]
They probably just haven't had the opportunity to iterate on it yet. That may be fixed in the next major update, or maybe not (I do not know if they plan to do anything with the DDS)[/quote]
https://www.twitch.tv/b4nny/v/77007877?t=133m15s valve apparently was going to buff the reserve shooter until b4nny talked them out of it
they don't play their own game
the only reason geel would say they're competent after talking to them is because his livelihood rides on the fact people think TF2 is in good hands or geel is as terrible at tf2 as they are, probably a combination of both
https://www.twitch.tv/b4nny/v/77007877?t=133m15s valve apparently was going to buff the reserve shooter until b4nny talked them out of it
they don't play their own game
the only reason geel would say they're competent after talking to them is because his livelihood rides on the fact people think TF2 is in good hands or geel is as terrible at tf2 as they are, probably a combination of both
they don't play their own game
the only reason geel would say they're competent after talking to them is because his livelihood rides on the fact people think TF2 is in good hands or geel is as terrible at tf2 as they are, probably a combination of both
iliumhttps://www.twitch.tv/b4nny/v/77007877?t=133m15s valve apparently was going to buff the reserve shooter until b4nny talked them out of it
they don't play their own game
the only reason geel would say they're competent after talking to them is because his livelihood rides on the fact people think TF2 is in good hands or geel is as terrible at tf2 as they are, probably a combination of both
pls read thread
[quote=ilium]https://www.twitch.tv/b4nny/v/77007877?t=133m15s valve apparently was going to buff the reserve shooter until b4nny talked them out of it
they don't play their own game
the only reason geel would say they're competent after talking to them is because his livelihood rides on the fact people think TF2 is in good hands or geel is as terrible at tf2 as they are, probably a combination of both[/quote]
pls read thread
they don't play their own game
the only reason geel would say they're competent after talking to them is because his livelihood rides on the fact people think TF2 is in good hands or geel is as terrible at tf2 as they are, probably a combination of both[/quote]
pls read thread
Doom1widowmaker is not overpowered lol
it is if you hit your shots
[quote=Doom1]widowmaker is not overpowered lol[/quote]
it is if you hit your shots
it is if you hit your shots
yttriumyeah i don't know what he's bitching about, the LnL is fine right now. it gives the demo a solid primary alternate for taking out sentries reliably.
it's a crutch
[quote=yttrium]yeah i don't know what he's bitching about, the LnL is fine right now. it gives the demo a solid primary alternate for taking out sentries reliably.[/quote]
it's a crutch
it's a crutch
i think the fact that they wanted to buff the reserve shooter is pretty good evidence that they aren't the most knowledgable about weapon balance
i think the fact that they wanted to buff the reserve shooter is pretty good evidence that they aren't the most knowledgable about weapon balance
Doom1widowmaker is not overpowered lol
literally a straight upgrade
[quote=Doom1]widowmaker is not overpowered lol[/quote]
literally a straight upgrade
literally a straight upgrade
Elepimpi think the fact that they wanted to buff the reserve shooter is pretty good evidence that they aren't the most knowledgable about weapon balance
the fact that the reserve shooter exists, along with most other unlocks, is pretty good evidence
[quote=Elepimp]i think the fact that they wanted to buff the reserve shooter is pretty good evidence that they aren't the most knowledgable about weapon balance[/quote]
the fact that the reserve shooter exists, along with most other unlocks, is pretty good evidence
the fact that the reserve shooter exists, along with most other unlocks, is pretty good evidence
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