So I'm gonna start off by saying sorry if I posted in the wrong section or if this question isn't "good". I'm new here and haven't posted a whole lot. Anyways, I'm looking to by a gaming PC soon and I have two options for the same price, but I want to know which is better so I don't shoot myself in the foot when it comes time to buying one. I had to settle on a pre-built machine rather than building a system myself because my parents don't want me to mess up (and I don't blame them, I'm pretty careful with things but I'd rather have someone that actually knows what they're doing do it for me).
So option 1 was this Dell XPS 8700 I found. . I'm looking at the one for $750 btw.
I usually don't like dells stuff since its usually bad (from my experience) but these specs were pretty good. The only problem is, is that I don't know how good upgrading will be. The motherboard can take up to a gtx 660 (and I'm not worried about the cpu), but from other reviews I've seen they say that overall the motherboard is a standard dell cookie-cutter model that isn't really too great. I also don't know what kind of alternative motherboard the case can fit either (just in case I do decided to replace it). It also has Windows 8 which is...you know.
Option number two was that I order a custom built one from Ironsidecomputers.com
The link doesn't save all the parts I've added on/changed so I will list them.
CASE - Coolermaster HAF 912
CPU - AMD FX-6300
CPU COOLING - Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus
MOBO - ASUS M5A78L-M LX Plus
RAM - 8gb ddr 1333MHz
HDD - 1TB 7200RPM
GPU - Radeon HD 7770 HD
OS - Windows 7 64 bit home premium
PSU - 600w
Networking - Wireless N 150MBPS
So this comes to a total of $756. I was set on this one for a while, but the dell one seemed a bit more convenient since my parents are more familiar with Dell (It also comes with all the pre-installed dell crap like office which is nice i guess).
Anyways which is the better system for gaming? I also want to apologize again just in case I'm posting in the wrong thread or asking a lame question.
So I'm gonna start off by saying sorry if I posted in the wrong section or if this question isn't "good". I'm new here and haven't posted a whole lot. Anyways, I'm looking to by a gaming PC soon and I have two options for the same price, but I want to know which is better so I don't shoot myself in the foot when it comes time to buying one. I had to settle on a pre-built machine rather than building a system myself because my parents don't want me to mess up (and I don't blame them, I'm pretty careful with things but I'd rather have someone that actually knows what they're doing do it for me).
So option 1 was this Dell XPS 8700 I found. [url=www.dell.com/us/p/xps-8700/pd?~ck=mn][/url]. I'm looking at the one for $750 btw.
I usually don't like dells stuff since its usually bad (from my experience) but these specs were pretty good. The only problem is, is that I don't know how good upgrading will be. The motherboard can take up to a gtx 660 (and I'm not worried about the cpu), but from other reviews I've seen they say that overall the motherboard is a standard dell cookie-cutter model that isn't really too great. I also don't know what kind of alternative motherboard the case can fit either (just in case I do decided to replace it). It also has Windows 8 which is...you know.
Option number two was that I order a custom built one from Ironsidecomputers.com
[url=ironsidecomputers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28219&products_id=84][/url]
The link doesn't save all the parts I've added on/changed so I will list them.
CASE - Coolermaster HAF 912
CPU - AMD FX-6300
CPU COOLING - Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus
MOBO - ASUS M5A78L-M LX Plus
RAM - 8gb ddr 1333MHz
HDD - 1TB 7200RPM
GPU - Radeon HD 7770 HD
OS - Windows 7 64 bit home premium
PSU - 600w
Networking - Wireless N 150MBPS
So this comes to a total of $756. I was set on this one for a while, but the dell one seemed a bit more convenient since my parents are more familiar with Dell (It also comes with all the pre-installed dell crap like office which is nice i guess).
Anyways which is the better system for gaming? I also want to apologize again just in case I'm posting in the wrong thread or asking a lame question.
Just build your on computer. It's going to be cheaper and run video games much better. Building a computer isn't that difficult either. Some good places for help are reddit.com/r/buildapc , and reddit.com/r/buildapcforme
Just build your on computer. It's going to be cheaper and run video games much better. Building a computer isn't that difficult either. Some good places for help are reddit.com/r/buildapc , and reddit.com/r/buildapcforme
Option number two was that I order a custom built one from Ironsidecomputers.com
Option number two was that I order a custom built one from Ironsidecomputers.com
I would recommend building your own PC, it really isn't hard, it's like legos with electricity. If you built this, it'll run much better than either of those:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($208.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: AMD 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.54 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($26.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $762.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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I would recommend building your own PC, it really isn't hard, it's like legos with electricity. If you built this, it'll run much better than either of those:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1DEIq]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1DEIq/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1DEIq/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670]Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($208.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h87mpro4]ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-memory-ae38g1609u2]AMD 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($44.54 @ NCIX US)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42763kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card[/url] ($249.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1000usb3bl]Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($26.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii620bronze]SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $762.46
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-14 13:04 EDT-0400)[/i]
TreshJust build your on computer. It's going to be cheaper and run video games much better. Building a computer isn't that difficult either. Some good places for help are reddit.com/r/buildapc , and reddit.com/r/buildapcforme
[quote=Tresh]Just build your on computer. It's going to be cheaper and run video games much better. Building a computer isn't that difficult either. Some good places for help are reddit.com/r/buildapc , and reddit.com/r/buildapcforme[/quote]
PlatypusI would recommend building your own PC, it really isn't hard, it's like legos with electricity. If you built this, it'll run much better than either of those:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($208.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: AMD 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($44.54 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($26.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $762.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-14 13:04 EDT-0400)
2 sticks is always better than 1 but yeah this is the right build for your budget it destroys any prebuilts in this range.
[quote=Platypus]I would recommend building your own PC, it really isn't hard, it's like legos with electricity. If you built this, it'll run much better than either of those:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1DEIq]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1DEIq/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1DEIq/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670]Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($208.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h87mpro4]ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]Memory:[/b] AMD 8GB ([b]2 x 4[/b]GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($44.54 @ NCIX US)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42763kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card[/url] ($249.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1000usb3bl]Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($26.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii620bronze]SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $762.46
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[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-14 13:04 EDT-0400)[/i][/quote]
2 sticks is always better than 1 but yeah this is the right build for your budget it destroys any prebuilts in this range.
Neither of the options you have suggested are good, I'd suggest to talk to your parents about building your own computer.
Platypus...
The RAM you've suggested is out of stock.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($208.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($26.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $738.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-14 13:21 EDT-0400)
Neither of the options you have suggested are good, I'd suggest to talk to your parents about building your own computer.
[quote=Platypus]...[/quote]
The RAM you've suggested is out of stock.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1DF2C]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1DF2C/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1DF2C/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670]Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($208.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-b85mg]Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($79.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d8gab]G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($57.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card[/url] ($259.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1000usb3bl]Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($26.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9]XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Total:[/b] $738.91
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-14 13:21 EDT-0400)[/i]
zilis-SNIP-
-2 sticks vs. 1 stick of RAM is negligible for gaming
-I don't know much about chipsets, all the machines I've built have used OCing chipsets (eg. z77, z87) so yours might be better
-I prefer Barracudas over caviar blues, if he wants a step up I would get a caviar black or even a cheaper SSD like the Samsung 840
-The ACX cooler is on par with the twin frozr, TF is a smidge better, so good call, but it's OP's decision to spend that extra 10 dollars.
-Your PSU is a seasonic OEM so it'll run fine, but it's not fully or semi modular so cable management will be a PITA. I'd go with the PSU I originally reccomended, especially since this is a mATX build in a barebones case as his potential first build
[quote=zilis]-SNIP-[/quote]
-2 sticks vs. 1 stick of RAM is negligible for gaming
-I don't know much about chipsets, all the machines I've built have used OCing chipsets (eg. z77, z87) so yours might be better
-I prefer Barracudas over caviar blues, if he wants a step up I would get a caviar black or even a cheaper SSD like the Samsung 840
-The ACX cooler is on par with the twin frozr, TF is a smidge better, so good call, but it's OP's decision to spend that extra 10 dollars.
-Your PSU is a seasonic OEM so it'll run fine, but it's not fully or semi modular so cable management will be a PITA. I'd go with the PSU I originally reccomended, especially since this is a mATX build in a barebones case as his potential first build