My trusty old dlink dgl4300 died over the weekend and I need to pick up another router on the way home. I'm thinking about grabbing the dgl5500 just because I found benefits with drinksstreamboost/qos/ythrottling tech. Should I do this or is there bigger better cheaper options out there?
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My trusty old dlink dgl4300 died over the weekend and I need to pick up another router on the way home. I'm thinking about grabbing the dgl5500 just because I found benefits with drinksstreamboost/qos/ythrottling tech. Should I do this or is there bigger better cheaper options out there?
I like to use thewirecutter whenever I'm looking for new stuff. They tend to be pretty thorough IMO but can suggest things that are a bit overkill.
I went for the ASUS RT-n56U which has throttling/gaming optimization which is their "good" router; I've had no problems with it so far and it's definitely faster for wireless transfers between computesr than my old router was (DIR-655).
The wirecutter's top recommendation now is the RT-n66u which is $140 and also has the QOS/throttling thing, but they dont seem to mention much about the d-link routers unfortunately.
I like to use thewirecutter whenever I'm looking for new stuff. They tend to be pretty thorough IMO but can suggest things that are a bit overkill.
I went for the ASUS RT-n56U which has throttling/gaming optimization which is their "good" router; I've had no problems with it so far and it's definitely faster for wireless transfers between computesr than my old router was (DIR-655).
The wirecutter's top recommendation now is the RT-n66u which is $140 and also has the QOS/throttling thing, but they dont seem to mention much about the d-link routers unfortunately.
http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/networking/
I went for the ASUS RT-n56U which has throttling/gaming optimization which is their "good" router; I've had no problems with it so far and it's definitely faster for wireless transfers between computesr than my old router was (DIR-655).
The wirecutter's top recommendation now is the RT-n66u which is $140 and also has the QOS/throttling thing, but they dont seem to mention much about the d-link routers unfortunately.
http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/networking/
ASUS routers are good. If you want to take the time to manually configure QoS, any router compatible with DD-WRT or Tomato firmware can be an excellent choice. I've had multiple ASUS RT-N16s functioning for several years running Tomato without any trouble. I had an N56u, but it did not support tomato, so I replaced it.
I recommended you the D-Link routers because they have QoS preconfigured for gaming, but really, any router with QoS capabilities should be adequate for you.
ASUS routers are good. If you want to take the time to manually configure QoS, any router compatible with DD-WRT or Tomato firmware can be an excellent choice. I've had multiple ASUS RT-N16s functioning for several years running Tomato without any trouble. I had an N56u, but it did not support tomato, so I replaced it.
I recommended you the D-Link routers because they have QoS preconfigured for gaming, but really, any router with QoS capabilities should be adequate for you.
I recommended you the D-Link routers because they have QoS preconfigured for gaming, but really, any router with QoS capabilities should be adequate for you.
stabbyIsn't QoS bad for gaming?
No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???
[quote=stabby]Isn't QoS bad for gaming?[/quote]
No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???
No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???
frknstabbyIsn't QoS bad for gaming?No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???
A lot of people misunderstand QoS because they just try turning it on and get like 900 ms of ping because they didn't configure it correctly
[quote=frkn][quote=stabby]Isn't QoS bad for gaming?[/quote]
No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???[/quote]
A lot of people misunderstand QoS because they just try turning it on and get like 900 ms of ping because they didn't configure it correctly
No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???[/quote]
A lot of people misunderstand QoS because they just try turning it on and get like 900 ms of ping because they didn't configure it correctly
I'll vouch for ASUS with DD-WRT firmware, I only tossed it on and tested it, seems to work very well. I bought it as a backup for my dlink.
I'll vouch for ASUS with DD-WRT firmware, I only tossed it on and tested it, seems to work very well. I bought it as a backup for my dlink.
frknstabbyIsn't QoS bad for gaming?No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???
I'd been told that so long as you're not using your connection for gaming it can be detrimental to ping. Hogwash I guess.
[quote=frkn][quote=stabby]Isn't QoS bad for gaming?[/quote]
No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???[/quote]
I'd been told that so long as you're not using your connection for gaming it can be detrimental to ping. Hogwash I guess.
No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???[/quote]
I'd been told that so long as you're not using your connection for gaming it can be detrimental to ping. Hogwash I guess.
stabbyfrknI'd been told that so long as you're not using your connection for gaming it can be detrimental to ping. Hogwash I guess.stabbyIsn't QoS bad for gaming?No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???
If you said that correctly, ping really doesn't matter too much outside of gaming really.
[quote=stabby][quote=frkn][quote=stabby]Isn't QoS bad for gaming?[/quote]
No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???[/quote]
I'd been told that so long as you're not using your connection for gaming it can be detrimental to ping. Hogwash I guess.[/quote]
If you said that correctly, ping really doesn't matter too much outside of gaming really.
No. You prioritize the ports your game uses and it automatically gets priority over other packets. Why would that be bad???[/quote]
I'd been told that so long as you're not using your connection for gaming it can be detrimental to ping. Hogwash I guess.[/quote]
If you said that correctly, ping really doesn't matter too much outside of gaming really.
It's worth noting that QoS only works for upload bandwidth. There's no way to control the flow of data coming from the internet and going into your router, only from your router to the internet.
I spent hours trying to configure QoS on my router in an attempt to get somewhat normal pings ingame when my brother was surfing the internet and downloading stuff. It didn't work at all.
It's worth noting that QoS only works for upload bandwidth. There's no way to control the flow of data coming from the internet and going into your router, only from your router to the internet.
I spent hours trying to configure QoS on my router in an attempt to get somewhat normal pings ingame when my brother was surfing the internet and downloading stuff. It didn't work at all.
I spent hours trying to configure QoS on my router in an attempt to get somewhat normal pings ingame when my brother was surfing the internet and downloading stuff. It didn't work at all.
Not_MatlockIt's worth noting that QoS only works for upload bandwidth. There's no way to control the flow of data coming from the internet and going into your router, only from your router to the internet.
I spent hours trying to configure QoS on my router in an attempt to get somewhat normal pings ingame when my brother was surfing the internet and downloading stuff. It didn't work at all.
I'm sorry, but that is not true information at all. You can control incoming data, but you have to learn how to do it correctly. It's not something that you can set and forget.
[quote=Not_Matlock]It's worth noting that QoS only works for upload bandwidth. There's no way to control the flow of data coming from the internet and going into your router, only from your router to the internet.
I spent hours trying to configure QoS on my router in an attempt to get somewhat normal pings ingame when my brother was surfing the internet and downloading stuff. It didn't work at all.[/quote]
I'm sorry, but that is not true information at all. You can control incoming data, but you have to learn how to do it correctly. It's not something that you can set and forget.
I spent hours trying to configure QoS on my router in an attempt to get somewhat normal pings ingame when my brother was surfing the internet and downloading stuff. It didn't work at all.[/quote]
I'm sorry, but that is not true information at all. You can control incoming data, but you have to learn how to do it correctly. It's not something that you can set and forget.
FzeroI'm sorry, but that is not true information at all. You can control incoming data, but you have to learn how to do it correctly. It's not something that you can set and forget.
Then please explain how I can control incoming data. If you can't, at least provide a link that has resources on how to do what you're claiming rather than just saying that I'm wrong.
[quote=Fzero]I'm sorry, but that is not true information at all. You can control incoming data, but you have to learn how to do it correctly. It's not something that you can set and forget.[/quote]
Then please explain how I can control incoming data. If you can't, at least provide a link that has resources on how to do what you're claiming rather than just saying that I'm wrong.
Then please explain how I can control incoming data. If you can't, at least provide a link that has resources on how to do what you're claiming rather than just saying that I'm wrong.
Not_MatlockIt's worth noting that QoS only works for upload bandwidth. There's no way to control the flow of data coming from the internet and going into your router, only from your router to the internet.
I spent hours trying to configure QoS on my router in an attempt to get somewhat normal pings ingame when my brother was surfing the internet and downloading stuff. It didn't work at all.
You can absolutely use QoS for bidirectional traffic. Your idea is flawed from the very beginning since data does not come from the internet and go into your router. I would concur that you have little control over the flow of data "coming from the internet and going into your modem", but even that can be misleading.
It's true that you have little control over unsolicited data coming at you (read: DoS/DDoS attacks, etc.) Most data is not unsolicited. Most of the time, an application on a port on a host on your network is requesting that data, and you absolutely can control the flow of that. I don't know what router you use or what its feature set includes. It may not have the ability to do that, but it is certainly possible and is definitely a requirement for places like airports, hospitals, and any other businesses that require decent connections while simultaneously offering guest wireless connectivity.
[quote=Not_Matlock]It's worth noting that QoS only works for upload bandwidth. There's no way to control the flow of data coming from the internet and going into your router, only from your router to the internet.
I spent hours trying to configure QoS on my router in an attempt to get somewhat normal pings ingame when my brother was surfing the internet and downloading stuff. It didn't work at all.[/quote]
You can absolutely use QoS for bidirectional traffic. Your idea is flawed from the very beginning since data does not come from the internet and go into your router. I would concur that you have little control over the flow of data "coming from the internet and going into your modem", but even that can be misleading.
It's true that you have little control over unsolicited data coming at you (read: DoS/DDoS attacks, etc.) Most data is not unsolicited. Most of the time, an application on a port on a host on your network is requesting that data, and you absolutely can control the flow of that. I don't know what router you use or what its feature set includes. It may not have the ability to do that, but it is certainly possible and is definitely a requirement for places like airports, hospitals, and any other businesses that require decent connections while simultaneously offering guest wireless connectivity.
I spent hours trying to configure QoS on my router in an attempt to get somewhat normal pings ingame when my brother was surfing the internet and downloading stuff. It didn't work at all.[/quote]
You can absolutely use QoS for bidirectional traffic. Your idea is flawed from the very beginning since data does not come from the internet and go into your router. I would concur that you have little control over the flow of data "coming from the internet and going into your modem", but even that can be misleading.
It's true that you have little control over unsolicited data coming at you (read: DoS/DDoS attacks, etc.) Most data is not unsolicited. Most of the time, an application on a port on a host on your network is requesting that data, and you absolutely can control the flow of that. I don't know what router you use or what its feature set includes. It may not have the ability to do that, but it is certainly possible and is definitely a requirement for places like airports, hospitals, and any other businesses that require decent connections while simultaneously offering guest wireless connectivity.
Make sure that you get one of the correct frequency so you don't get interruptions when the microwave is on or someone is on the phone.
Make sure that you get one of the correct frequency so you don't get interruptions when the microwave is on or someone is on the phone.
ToastyTHTMake sure that you get one of the correct frequency so you don't get interruptions when the microwave is on or someone is on the phone.
DECT phones work on frequencies below 2 GHz and older wireless protocols have even lower operating frequency ranges.
Microwave ovens often work around the 2.4GHz band, but are supposed to contain all of their radiation as the oven itself acts as a faraday cage.
Obviously for gaming purposes you should be using a wired connection anwyway.
[quote=ToastyTHT]Make sure that you get one of the correct frequency so you don't get interruptions when the microwave is on or someone is on the phone.[/quote]
DECT phones work on frequencies below 2 GHz and older wireless protocols have even lower operating frequency ranges.
Microwave ovens often work around the 2.4GHz band, but are supposed to contain all of their radiation as the oven itself acts as a faraday cage.
Obviously for gaming purposes you should be using a wired connection anwyway.
DECT phones work on frequencies below 2 GHz and older wireless protocols have even lower operating frequency ranges.
Microwave ovens often work around the 2.4GHz band, but are supposed to contain all of their radiation as the oven itself acts as a faraday cage.
Obviously for gaming purposes you should be using a wired connection anwyway.
Not_MatlockFzeroI'm sorry, but that is not true information at all. You can control incoming data, but you have to learn how to do it correctly. It's not something that you can set and forget.
Then please explain how I can control incoming data. If you can't, at least provide a link that has resources on how to do what you're claiming rather than just saying that I'm wrong.
I am not sure how exactly you want me to show you how it works, since it is hardware dependent and I do not know your specific brand and firmware, so I could only tell you that you're incorrect. I know for a fact that I can limit certain ports, hell, I can even limit certain machines that are connected. For example, all my desktops have unfettered bandwidth, while all connected wireless I have throttled.
[quote=Not_Matlock][quote=Fzero]I'm sorry, but that is not true information at all. You can control incoming data, but you have to learn how to do it correctly. It's not something that you can set and forget.[/quote]
Then please explain how I can control incoming data. If you can't, at least provide a link that has resources on how to do what you're claiming rather than just saying that I'm wrong.[/quote]
I am not sure how exactly you want me to show you how it works, since it is hardware dependent and I do not know your specific brand and firmware, so I could only tell you that you're incorrect. I know for a fact that I can limit certain ports, hell, I can even limit certain machines that are connected. For example, all my desktops have unfettered bandwidth, while all connected wireless I have throttled.
Then please explain how I can control incoming data. If you can't, at least provide a link that has resources on how to do what you're claiming rather than just saying that I'm wrong.[/quote]
I am not sure how exactly you want me to show you how it works, since it is hardware dependent and I do not know your specific brand and firmware, so I could only tell you that you're incorrect. I know for a fact that I can limit certain ports, hell, I can even limit certain machines that are connected. For example, all my desktops have unfettered bandwidth, while all connected wireless I have throttled.
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