Maybe but imagine Team A vs Team B
-->People placed only 20 keys on Team A and 40 on Team B (making the ratio 2:0,5 A33,3%/B66,6%)
--> Now if i place 40 keys on Team A, there will be 60 keys on Team A and 40 on Team B (making the ratio 0,66:1,5, A60%/B40%)
Therefore i wouldn't win the 80 keys that i would have calculated but 0,66x40=26,4 keys
But i can't just go through each bet to know how many keys have been placed on each team, ...
--> So i basically don't know how much will my own bet influence the ratio you see?
That's why i said it would be sweet to know what we stand to win before we bet...

Wouldn't that mean that Experiment win if they take a round since the points on a payload GC are 4-2?

What the hell happened here: http://saloon.tf/match/14 ? The odds went from around 48 to 50.9 during the match...

It's true the odds seemed to change after the match was live. I ended up with quite a lot less winnings than predicted as well (1.46 vs ~1.9 keys), although this was only partly due to the changing odds.

Can we get an explanation for this one?

The ESEA S20 Playoffs UB and LB Finals still show as live. The LB final was a forfeit win to TSU and the UB final was delayed till tomorrow.

Sorry, was at work. Updating that stuff now.

edit: Looks like it's unable to be reopened, but someone handled the refund for TSU/wood.

edit2: never mind im retarded

Added the first Season 22 powered by saloon.tf: Premiership Tier Playoff game!
Epsilon eSports vs Full Tilt

Match scheduled: 22 Nov 2015, 19:00 CET!

before, i could see the value of my items directly off the saloon website when i would bet them. Did this update take that option away? or is it still possible?

My item is stuck in trade verification and I'd like to bet it tonight. Been there for half an hour, is there anything I can do

when saloon costs you $200 dollars FeelsTSUMan

http://cs628324.vk.me/v628324107/28cfb/0SM7eeLsWMM.jpg

I am trying to deposit an unusual and I have seriously no idea why the site won't take it. Someone mentioned before some kind of popup message about why a trade was rejected? Should I be seeing some sort of message explaining why?

I'm having trouble collecting items from the tsu-froyo game.

My items were sent in 4 different trade offers, I accepted one of them and the other 3 became unavailable.

There are 5 keys of items I still haven't claimed, and when I look at my "loot" under pending withdrawal confirmation this is accurately confirmed, but the website says I don't have loot in the bots. I still have the option to withdrawal, but when I select it nothing happens for like 10 seconds and then it spits out the error "We were unable to send a trade offer for your items; please ensure your Trade Offer URL is up to date and accurate." My trade offer link is definitely up to date, however.

Any help?

Could matches be posted earlier? I think posting Ascent vs TSU now would allow more people to bet on it. Also the dreamhack match between swedeRage and LEGO isn't up yet.

Wanted to put the matches up earlier this week, I've been asking sideshow if he could give me more info on the matches.
haven't gotten a response from him yet.

http://store.steampowered.com/mobile

yikes the escrow thing is being dropped soon

maybe now ppl will stop slurping valve so hard and realize how garb they've become

this escrow thing is so stupid, why do we all have to get boned just because some people are still stupid enough to go to pleasescamme .ru/screenshot .scr

that's not even the real reason they're forcing this change
valve is really pushing steam market transactions because they slurp up 15% on every deal

the 3 day waiting period for trades isn't even enough time to get an auto generated response from steam support

hilarious that they use the guise of item/account security to nickel and dime their users

Can the IM/Open finals be added to saloon?

How are unusuals priced on saloon and do gifted/dupes work?

Great question actually.. is gift text maybe the reason why the site won't accept my fairly common unusual?

i havent traded for years so could anyone explain why the values are different on saloon and on backpack?

http://prntscr.com/99nrn6
http://prntscr.com/99nsel

bp.tf increases your item's value depending on it's strange parts, halloween spells and paints. Not sure about the other one's though.

Added the highlander EU vs NA showmatches:

Highpander vs Dunning-Kruger Effect

Round 1: Vanguard EU server– 1st to 5 or most points at 30 min
Round 2: Barnblitz EU server (EU RED, NA BLU then swap)
Round 3: Barnblitz NA server(NA RED, EU BLU then swap)
Round 4: Vanguard NA server – 1st to 5 or most points at 30 min

Round 5: Product – server all players had the best average ping to – first to 3 (OPTIONAL: based on time & if the teams want to play it)

Note that round 5 will be nullified if it's not going to be played, which will return all items to their owners.

Missing a key in my loot.
I had 6 keys + items in my loot bag last time I used the site. Now I only have 5 keys + items.
my loot bag went from 7.13 keys to 6.13 keys. Where did my key go? Can I please have it back?

I submitted a ticket but I have received no response in 2 days

I submitted a ticket 2 days ago about my missing earbuds as well, no response

now i cant even withdraw any items, the trade offer fails after 3 hours of requesting

I still haven't gotten my winnings from that Meatmarket game from 1.0... email's been quiet for months :(

Any news!?

im unable to deposit or withdraw any item from or to the site for couple of days now, and my earbuds are still gone missing, is this going to get fixed anytime soon?

Can't deposit anything as well. Bots just don't accept the trade offer.

same thing as above