They teased this beast recently.
24.5-inch display
1 ms response
1920x1080
Probably the first monitor to come out in a really long time appropriately designed with high fps games in mind.
24.5-inch display
1 ms response
1920x1080
Probably the first monitor to come out in a really long time appropriately designed with high fps games in mind.
[url=http://www.pcgamer.com/asus-teases-rgb-swift-pg258q-monitor-with-240hz-refresh-rate/?utm_content=buffer69ba4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-pcgamertw]Source[/url]
looks pretty ugly, but i guess you can't really complain with 240hz
pndawhy 240hz? Just wondering why you would need 240hz is all
going from a 60hz to a 120 hz pushed my friend up 2 divs, 60hz to 144hz pushed my other friend up 4 divs. If that doesn't describe how much of a difference a good monitor makes, idk what will.
going from a 60hz to a 120 hz pushed my friend up 2 divs, 60hz to 144hz pushed my other friend up 4 divs. If that doesn't describe how much of a difference a good monitor makes, idk what will.
yeah but we don't really know how much of a difference 144 to 240 makes
diminishing returns and what not
gonna wait for some reviews
diminishing returns and what not
gonna wait for some reviews
Cerduryeah but we don't really know how much of a difference 144 to 240 makes
diminishing returns and what not
gonna wait for some reviews
make tf2's skill ceiling great again!
diminishing returns and what not
gonna wait for some reviews[/quote]
make tf2's skill ceiling great again!
honestly ur gonna need an insane computer to get over 240 fps on a lot of games even at lowest settings
Cerduryeah but we don't really know how much of a difference 144 to 240 makes
diminishing returns and what not
gonna wait for some reviews
It's 4.1667ms per frame for 240hz, compared to 6.9444 for 144hz or 8.3333 for 120hz.
240hz compared to 144hz is approximately twice as good as the jump between 144hz and 120hz (2.777ms difference for 240hz-144hz vs 1.3889ms for 144hz-120hz).
I've never owned a 120hz monitor, only 144hz, so I can't really say how noticeable that is. But for people who have used both 120hz and 144hz monitors, that's what you should expect out of a 240hz monitor. It's diminishing returns for sure, but then again it's still there.
diminishing returns and what not
gonna wait for some reviews[/quote]
It's 4.1667ms per frame for 240hz, compared to 6.9444 for 144hz or 8.3333 for 120hz.
240hz compared to 144hz is approximately twice as good as the jump between 144hz and 120hz (2.777ms difference for 240hz-144hz vs 1.3889ms for 144hz-120hz).
I've never owned a 120hz monitor, only 144hz, so I can't really say how noticeable that is. But for people who have used both 120hz and 144hz monitors, that's what you should expect out of a 240hz monitor. It's diminishing returns for sure, but then again it's still there.
i didn't mean the actual technical differences
rather what difference it would make on a player's performance
or just how different it feels to use
rather what difference it would make on a player's performance
or just how different it feels to use
http://www.teamfortress.tv/36233/asus-pg258q-240hz-g-sync-monitor
Are we going to make this thread every month until it's released?
Are we going to make this thread every month until it's released?
if u wanna test out the diff jarateking, you can just set your 144hz down to 120hz and to some tests.
XenThePybrowhat I am interested in is the price
every 200hz+ monitor right now is priced over 1000$ so it's quite the bummer
every 200hz+ monitor right now is priced over 1000$ so it's quite the bummer
VulcanXenThePybrowhat I am interested in is the priceevery 200hz+ monitor right now is priced over 1000$ so it's quite the bummer
but aren't they all IPS displays? TNs are cheaper. I'm expecting $600-$800 on this one at first but it'll come down when there's other options which shouldn't take too long
every 200hz+ monitor right now is priced over 1000$ so it's quite the bummer[/quote]
but aren't they all IPS displays? TNs are cheaper. I'm expecting $600-$800 on this one at first but it'll come down when there's other options which shouldn't take too long
I hope its not till after 2016..
I wanna use this monitor during my month holidaay
I wanna use this monitor during my month holidaay
i got a 144hz so i can see my fps going from over 300 to 70
i got a 240hz monitor so i could see my fps going from 240 to 90
i got a 240hz monitor so i could see my fps going from 240 to 90
freakinVulcanbut aren't they all IPS displays? TNs are cheaper. I'm expecting $600-$800 on this one at first but it'll come down when there's other options which shouldn't take too longXenThePybrowhat I am interested in is the priceevery 200hz+ monitor right now is priced over 1000$ so it's quite the bummer
That's still way too much money for the average gamer, the difference between 144hz and 200hz are astronomical, if they were slightly closer i could imagine people willing to save up the money to upgrade.
every 200hz+ monitor right now is priced over 1000$ so it's quite the bummer[/quote]
but aren't they all IPS displays? TNs are cheaper. I'm expecting $600-$800 on this one at first but it'll come down when there's other options which shouldn't take too long[/quote]
That's still way too much money for the average gamer, the difference between 144hz and 200hz are astronomical, if they were slightly closer i could imagine people willing to save up the money to upgrade.
sopsi got a 144hz so i can see my fps going from over 300 to 70
i got a 240hz monitor so i could see my fps going from 240 to 90
what does this mean? it's like a riddle.
If you're trying to insinuate that monitors with higher refresh rates cause you to have less FPS, that's just wrong fundamentally. Only you changing your settings or changing your resolution would do that.
i got a 240hz monitor so i could see my fps going from 240 to 90[/quote]
what does this mean? it's like a riddle.
If you're trying to insinuate that monitors with higher refresh rates cause you to have less FPS, that's just wrong fundamentally. Only you changing your settings or changing your resolution would do that.
im saying that theres no one in tf2 besides maybe like 3 people with sli titan gpus that would benefit from a 240hz monitor
im slightly drunk my shit doesn't make a lot of sense sorry
im slightly drunk my shit doesn't make a lot of sense sorry
If you think you need SLI Titans to break 240 fps on TF2 then you're lost.
I can notice a small difference from 144hz to 120hz but only when playing as scout
Did some testing with my benq monitor and I didn't see any difference between 144 and 120. Played scout dm with each frequency for half an hour.
As #10 pointed out, if there is going to be any difference between 144 and 240 it's going to be barely noticeable.
As #10 pointed out, if there is going to be any difference between 144 and 240 it's going to be barely noticeable.
Thought I would update this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uDsTZTwgM according to this video the Asus PG258Q is going to be in the $500 range (not 100% sure on this but that would match the price of the BenQ XL2540 @ $500 and AOC AGON AG251FZ @ $450)
Also 144Hz to 240Hz isn't that comparable to 120Hz to 144Hz as JarateKing pointed out the math
240Hz = 4.16ms
144Hz = 6.94ms
120Hz = 8.33ms
100Hz = 10ms
" (2.777ms difference for 240hz-144hz vs 1.3889ms for 144hz-120hz)."
In this case 144Hz vs 240Hz is more comparable to 100Hz vs 144Hz
or 2.78ms difference vs 3.06ms difference (if you really want to know the level of difference 103Hz to 144Hz would be almost exact and you could test this on a 144Hz monitor with a custom resolution/refresh)
As for this specific monitor there's plenty of other justifications to get it. Namely that Asus monitors typically have slightly better pixel response times compared to their competition (though Asus has had some serious issues with QC on some of their monitors as well). Assuming Asus uses a similar method of achieving low input lag as they did in the MG279Q and PG279Q, and assuming similar level of pixel gtg as the PG278Q it should have a input lag of 2.25ms (this doesn't include the refresh rate), for comparison the BenQ XL2730Z has a input lag of 5ms (signal processing + gtg). For example if XYZ had a BenQ XL2730Z and the got a Asus PG258Q they would see a total reduction of 2.75ms of input lag + the difference in refresh rate of 2.78ms would mean you would experience ~5.53ms less input lag on average. (not like that's HUGE but there's definitely a lot more to monitors than refresh rates and advertised pixel gtg)
*source for the input lag http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc_agon_ag251fz.htm (go to the lag classification section)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uDsTZTwgM according to this video the Asus PG258Q is going to be in the $500 range (not 100% sure on this but that would match the price of the BenQ XL2540 @ $500 and AOC AGON AG251FZ @ $450)
Also 144Hz to 240Hz isn't that comparable to 120Hz to 144Hz as JarateKing pointed out the math
240Hz = 4.16ms
144Hz = 6.94ms
120Hz = 8.33ms
100Hz = 10ms
" (2.777ms difference for 240hz-144hz vs 1.3889ms for 144hz-120hz)."
In this case 144Hz vs 240Hz is more comparable to 100Hz vs 144Hz
or 2.78ms difference vs 3.06ms difference (if you really want to know the level of difference 103Hz to 144Hz would be almost exact and you could test this on a 144Hz monitor with a custom resolution/refresh)
As for this specific monitor there's plenty of other justifications to get it. Namely that Asus monitors typically have slightly better pixel response times compared to their competition (though Asus has had some serious issues with QC on some of their monitors as well). Assuming Asus uses a similar method of achieving low input lag as they did in the MG279Q and PG279Q, and assuming similar level of pixel gtg as the PG278Q it should have a input lag of 2.25ms (this doesn't include the refresh rate), for comparison the BenQ XL2730Z has a input lag of 5ms (signal processing + gtg). For example if XYZ had a BenQ XL2730Z and the got a Asus PG258Q they would see a total reduction of 2.75ms of input lag + the difference in refresh rate of 2.78ms would mean you would experience ~5.53ms less input lag on average. (not like that's HUGE but there's definitely a lot more to monitors than refresh rates and advertised pixel gtg)
*source for the input lag http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc_agon_ag251fz.htm (go to the lag classification section)
anyone else bummed that it's a 24.5 inch monitor at 1080p? not sure if worth