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I fail to understand admin's reasoning behind this
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It took me a long time to think about whether I should post this or not, because I didn't want to spark hatred or anything. I wanna clarify I harbor zero ill intentions or hatred towards anyone. It's only after some people urging me that I should post this did I do it. Please do not send hate towards anyone as those are not my intentions. I am simply trying to raise awareness.

I was rostered in an AM HL team for season 18. I only played one single official and basically never scrimmed. As a result, I was allowed to compete in newbie cup and the NC HL admins also allowed me to compete in NC HL the following season given my apparent lack of experience.

However, the same somehow did not apply for 6s? I have even less experience in 6s. I was denied to compete in the following season 16 for NC 6s, because I played one singular match of AM HL, as engineer... Not even as an actual 6s class. I was told by admins that it is based on experience, but I fail to see how ONE match of AM HL is more experience than an entire season of NC 6s even if you place dead last. I really don't. The majority of these NC repeaters and NC players have triple or quadruple the amount of logs I have. How the hell do I have more experience? And how in the world does AM HL even help me in 6s?

They say it is to stop sandbagging, but isn't this what causes sandbagging? Me, clearly an NC skill level player, is forcibly put into AM. How am I supposed to keep up at all? I thought NC was supposed to foster growth for new players in 6s. Like it would make more sense for me to be denied in NC HL than NC 6s? This only worsens the sandbagging problem, because now I'm gonna get sandbagged in the AM div. I've talked to several people about this and they all think this ruling is ridiculous. At first I argued my skills are subpar, but they say it's based on experience not skill. I don't even know how to play on any maps except the basic three process, bagel, and snakewater. I spent like two days trying to convince them to let me play in NC, but they just refused and cited the rules, but the rules said players are examined on an individual basis. Okay, maybe if I played the entire AM HL season, it would make more sense, but I played only on the 2nd official match and nothing more.

At this point I just kinda accepted it. I spent too much time fighting it already, and it is what it is, I'm not gonna go and hold a personal grudge because of this. It really sucked, because of me, my entire team would have to play in AM and we clearly stand no chance. Good thing they all said they're fine but I just find the reasoning to be pure nonsense. Beacause somehow a player who played a whole season or two of NC 6s is less experienced in 6s than me who played one single match of AM HL. A player who has 300 logs is somehow less experienced than me who has less than 50 logs on 6s. Make that make sense please. I've literally seen people's rgl where they've played in AM 6s the saeson before and compete in NC 6s the next. Well, clearly, some excpetions were made, and why were they allowed? I didn't even play AM 6s, I played AM HL for only ONE match.

Well, that's really it. I don't hate the admins at all and ultimately, it is their decision, not mine. I already accepted that we're in AM, and let my players who wanted to stay in NC leave the team. Tell me your thoughts. Peace out.

It took me a long time to think about whether I should post this or not, because I didn't want to spark hatred or anything. I wanna clarify I harbor zero ill intentions or hatred towards anyone. It's only after some people urging me that I should post this did I do it. Please do not send hate towards anyone as those are not my intentions. I am simply trying to raise awareness.

I was rostered in an AM HL team for season 18. I only played one single official and basically never scrimmed. As a result, I was allowed to compete in newbie cup and the NC HL admins also allowed me to compete in NC HL the following season given my apparent lack of experience.

However, the same somehow did not apply for 6s? I have even less experience in 6s. I was denied to compete in the following season 16 for NC 6s, because I played one singular match of AM HL, as engineer... Not even as an actual 6s class. I was told by admins that it is based on experience, but I fail to see how ONE match of AM HL is more experience than an entire season of NC 6s even if you place dead last. I really don't. The majority of these NC repeaters and NC players have triple or quadruple the amount of logs I have. How the hell do I have more experience? And how in the world does AM HL even help me in 6s?

They say it is to stop sandbagging, but isn't this what causes sandbagging? Me, clearly an NC skill level player, is forcibly put into AM. How am I supposed to keep up at all? I thought NC was supposed to foster growth for new players in 6s. Like it would make more sense for me to be denied in NC HL than NC 6s? This only worsens the sandbagging problem, because now I'm gonna get sandbagged in the AM div. I've talked to several people about this and they all think this ruling is ridiculous. At first I argued my skills are subpar, but they say it's based on experience not skill. I don't even know how to play on any maps except the basic three process, bagel, and snakewater. I spent like two days trying to convince them to let me play in NC, but they just refused and cited the rules, but the rules said players are examined on an individual basis. Okay, maybe if I played the entire AM HL season, it would make more sense, but I played only on the 2nd official match and nothing more.

At this point I just kinda accepted it. I spent too much time fighting it already, and it is what it is, I'm not gonna go and hold a personal grudge because of this. It really sucked, because of me, my entire team would have to play in AM and we clearly stand no chance. Good thing they all said they're fine but I just find the reasoning to be pure nonsense. Beacause somehow a player who played a whole season or two of NC 6s is less experienced in 6s than me who played one single match of AM HL. A player who has 300 logs is somehow less experienced than me who has less than 50 logs on 6s. Make that make sense please. I've literally seen people's rgl where they've played in AM 6s the saeson before and compete in NC 6s the next. Well, clearly, some excpetions were made, and why were they allowed? I didn't even play AM 6s, I played AM HL for only ONE match.

Well, that's really it. I don't hate the admins at all and ultimately, it is their decision, not mine. I already accepted that we're in AM, and let my players who wanted to stay in NC leave the team. Tell me your thoughts. Peace out.
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#4
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#5
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i doubt there is any difference in the average skill level of NC and AM players

i doubt there is any difference in the average skill level of NC and AM players
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#6
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ngmi

ngmi
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#7
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just based off your post Im not really sure what the admins are thinking, but Im glad you and your teammates arent letting it deter you. Im pretty clueless about the skill difference between NC and AM but I dont think it will end up being a huge deal. In the ESEA days, Open was for skill levels brand new thru probably most/all of main in rgl (plus the inevitable johnmilter +5 other sandbaggers team). It wasnt always fun getting rolled over and over your first season but damn did you get good fast, which was really fun. Its really a privilege to go up against better and more experienced players and if you get owned that alright its a videogame

just based off your post Im not really sure what the admins are thinking, but Im glad you and your teammates arent letting it deter you. Im pretty clueless about the skill difference between NC and AM but I dont think it will end up being a huge deal. In the ESEA days, Open was for skill levels brand new thru probably most/all of main in rgl (plus the inevitable johnmilter +5 other sandbaggers team). It wasnt always fun getting rolled over and over your first season but damn did you get good fast, which [i]was[/i] really fun. Its really a privilege to go up against better and more experienced players and if you get owned that alright its a videogame
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I fail to understand a lot of the admin's decisions. welcome to the club

I fail to understand a lot of the admin's decisions. welcome to the club
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