the production value on this video is very good
https://logs.tf/2876495
5unnyTysonhttps://clips.twitch.tv/MoistVivaciousMacaroniBudBlast-puuLu5miT23MDypOhttps://logs.tf/2876495
Just a casual 90% accuracy.
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Just a casual 90% accuracy.
crayim gonna be honest, youre not wrong but you just have the wrong basis of information
Seriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.
Seriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.
I feel like a lot of these clips are just confirmation bias, you want to prove he is cheating so bad you come forth with subpar evidence. It is especially obvious when you go to invite players streams to clip them agreeing with you as evidence.
jetzcrayim gonna be honest, youre not wrong but you just have the wrong basis of informationSeriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.
woah straw man fallacy you want a cookie?, its the same game/match "ITS A MATCH IN DIV1/ ADV" its occurs in the same first glimmer lock and the 2nd on sniper, regardless "SOME" of these were added as a filler and to bait people like you who would use the argument "OMG HE MOVING AND NO MOVING CROSSHAIR = STRAFE" and ignore the the logical actual other evidence, regardless i added them because they are all in the same game https://imgur.com/a/SLVOQfN
https://demos.tf/506369#76561198124005288
Seriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.[/quote]
woah straw man fallacy you want a cookie?, its the same game/match "ITS A MATCH IN DIV1/ ADV" its occurs in the same first glimmer lock and the 2nd on sniper, regardless "SOME" of these were added as a filler and to bait people like you who would use the argument "OMG HE MOVING AND NO MOVING CROSSHAIR = STRAFE" and ignore the the logical actual other evidence, regardless i added them because they are all in the same game https://imgur.com/a/SLVOQfN
https://demos.tf/506369#76561198124005288
GarthnukI feel like a lot of these clips are just confirmation bias, you want to prove he is cheating so bad you come forth with subpar evidence. It is especially obvious when you go to invite players streams to clip them agreeing with you as evidence.
ain't you his friend , part of da circle jerk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DlROhT8NgU
ain't you his friend , part of da circle jerk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DlROhT8NgU
jetzcrayim gonna be honest, youre not wrong but you just have the wrong basis of informationSeriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.
Yes, strafing in the same direction doesn't require cheats.
Snapping onto someone through a wall does.
Like, it's 50/50 odds that he'll be moving in the same direction, no one cares about that.
The point is that literally in the first clip he turns left, stops that turn to look at a wall and someone just happens to be exactly where he's looking, turns further left, stops on a soldier also behind a wall, then looks left at a scout he can maybe see the feet of, and immediately looks right again to look exactly at the soldier again who is still behind a wall and has been moving.
It doesn't matter if there's strafe aim involved, if or how long he's tracking them, the chances of stopping those turns facing a wall exactly on a player every single time three times in a row are astronomically low.
Seriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.[/quote]
Yes, strafing in the same direction doesn't require cheats.
Snapping onto someone through a wall does.
Like, it's 50/50 odds that he'll be moving in the same direction, no one cares about that.
The point is that literally in the first clip he turns left, stops that turn to look at a wall and someone just happens to be exactly where he's looking, turns further left, stops on a soldier also behind a wall, then looks left at a scout he can maybe see the feet of, and immediately looks right again to look exactly at the soldier again who is still behind a wall and has been moving.
It doesn't matter if there's strafe aim involved, if or how long he's tracking them, the chances of stopping those turns facing a wall exactly on a player every single time three times in a row are astronomically low.
TysonGarthnukI feel like a lot of these clips are just confirmation bias, you want to prove he is cheating so bad you come forth with subpar evidence. It is especially obvious when you go to invite players streams to clip them agreeing with you as evidence.
ain't you his friend , part of da circle jerk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DlROhT8NgU
Aren't you 5'1
ain't you his friend , part of da circle jerk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DlROhT8NgU[/quote]
Aren't you 5'1
Tysonjetzcrayim gonna be honest, youre not wrong but you just have the wrong basis of informationSeriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.
\regardless "SOME" of these were added as a filler and to bait people like you who would use the argument "OMG HE MOVING AND NO MOVING CROSSHAIR = STRAFE" and ignore the the logical actual other evidence\
"nO gUyS i AdDeD sHiTtY cLiPs To My ViDeO oN pUrPoSe!!!!"
Seriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.[/quote]
\regardless "SOME" of these were added as a filler and to bait people like you who would use the argument "OMG HE MOVING AND NO MOVING CROSSHAIR = STRAFE" and ignore the the logical actual other evidence\[/quote]
"nO gUyS i AdDeD sHiTtY cLiPs To My ViDeO oN pUrPoSe!!!!"
GarthnukTysonGarthnukI feel like a lot of these clips are just confirmation bias, you want to prove he is cheating so bad you come forth with subpar evidence. It is especially obvious when you go to invite players streams to clip them agreeing with you as evidence.
ain't you his friend , part of da circle jerk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DlROhT8NgU
Aren't you 5'1
yeah 5'1 inches deep in your MOM
ain't you his friend , part of da circle jerk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DlROhT8NgU[/quote]
Aren't you 5'1[/quote]
yeah 5'1 inches deep in your MOM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCTyuDvpdlY[/youtube]
nuggsTysonjetzcrayim gonna be honest, youre not wrong but you just have the wrong basis of informationSeriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.
\regardless "SOME" of these were added as a filler and to bait people like you who would use the argument "OMG HE MOVING AND NO MOVING CROSSHAIR = STRAFE" and ignore the the logical actual other evidence\
"nO gUyS i AdDeD sHiTtY cLiPs To My ViDeO oN pUrPoSe!!!!"
yerrrr gUyS I tRy sO hArD tO dEfEnD eLiJaH , Its nUt bCZ hE maH fRiEnD bUt I n0 tHiNk hE cHeAT
https://imgur.com/a/18jl90X
Seriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.[/quote]
\regardless "SOME" of these were added as a filler and to bait people like you who would use the argument "OMG HE MOVING AND NO MOVING CROSSHAIR = STRAFE" and ignore the the logical actual other evidence\[/quote]
"nO gUyS i AdDeD sHiTtY cLiPs To My ViDeO oN pUrPoSe!!!!"[/quote]
yerrrr gUyS I tRy sO hArD tO dEfEnD eLiJaH , Its nUt bCZ hE maH fRiEnD bUt I n0 tHiNk hE cHeAT
https://imgur.com/a/18jl90X
Tysonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sZZYU5abFg
stv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheat
https://clips.twitch.tv/KindSleepyLorisDxCat-_Hcbo2gXrAU3hg87
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistVivaciousMacaroniBudBlast-puuLu5miT23MDypO
I do think eli probably and may have cheated in the past but I think in his current state he is clean from what I can tell I have reviewed many of his demo's that are in 2021. All of these clips came from October it was before he got the ban.
TLDR: I do think he may have cheated in 2020 but right now in 2021 I don't think he is.
stv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheat
https://clips.twitch.tv/KindSleepyLorisDxCat-_Hcbo2gXrAU3hg87
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistVivaciousMacaroniBudBlast-puuLu5miT23MDypO[/quote]
I do think eli probably and may have cheated in the past but I think in his current state he is clean from what I can tell I have reviewed many of his demo's that are in 2021. All of these clips came from October it was before he got the ban.
TLDR: I do think he may have cheated in 2020 but right now in 2021 I don't think he is.
ive done the research, ive looked at the facts, ive analyzed the hard data and my conclusion is that
some of y'all would think a spinbotting sniper bot in casual is a legit player
GarthnukI feel like a lot of these clips are just confirmation bias, you want to prove he is cheating so bad you come forth with subpar evidence. It is especially obvious when you go to invite players streams to clip them agreeing with you as evidence.
yes because you are completely unbiased..also some bias is based on context like being around other cheaters etc
yes because you are completely unbiased..also some bias is based on context like being around other cheaters etc
5unnyTysonhttps://clips.twitch.tv/MoistVivaciousMacaroniBudBlast-puuLu5miT23MDypOhttps://logs.tf/2876495
THATS WHY HE IS IN 90 ACCURACY GROUP. ONLY PROS WITH HUGE AIM ARE HERE https://steamcommunity.com/groups/90accuracy
https://logs.tf/2876495[/quote]
THATS WHY HE IS IN 90 ACCURACY GROUP. ONLY PROS WITH HUGE AIM ARE HERE https://steamcommunity.com/groups/90accuracy
I've pugged a lot with eli the last couple of months and what always confused me was why he's still cheating/playing. He can't play anywhere but platty pugs and I believe the only formal tf2 he plays is a SA league (which sounds fucking awful). He already got banned from RGL/UGC, been accused with what I think is pretty convincing evidence multiple times yet still pugs everyday while continuing to cheat, for what an ego boost?? Guess I just never understood the reason behind cheating in a competitive game, winning while cheating has to be way less gratifying than if you are legit and on top of that the only winning he can do is in pugs, which have absolutely 0 merit to them.
isnt he like a 16 year old kid or something i dont think there's much rhyme or reason to his decisions within tf2 given he decided to cheat and then come back and cheat again after he was unbanned lol
Why do people defend cheaters way harder in TF2 versus respected games like CS?
kringuWhy do people defend cheaters way harder in TF2 versus respected games like CS?
cos everyone in this community knows eachother and it is a relatively very small community in general
also cos there's less money involved
cos everyone in this community knows eachother and it is a relatively very small community in general
also cos there's less money involved
yeah yeah im a cheater and i was friends with eli but u cant argue with this lol. you can't ignore facts.
1. Silent aim was patched in tf2, silent aim does not look like how silent aim used to look years ago. It just looks like aimlock. No evidence of silent aim.
2. You cannot aimlock onto people or stickies through walls. There simply is no tf2 cheat for that; it's only in csgo where walls are wallbang-able.
3. No cheater would aimlock onto people through walls even if they could, there's no reason to.
4. Most of the time the video is slowed down so much that it exagerrates the coincidence of elijah's crosshair being over another player. And slowing it down even more only when the crosshair is over another player just suggests you're trying to prove something that isn't really there. For example, at 2:09 his crosshair isn't even on anyone, how is that aimlock? Also he's just turning his attention away from shutter, that's normal. You can't slow a video down to 1% speed only when a crosshair is over an enemy then speed it back up to make it look like he's pausing on the player.
5. Every single clip where you claim he's locking onto people through a wall, he happens to just be in the transition of looking in another direction, so obviously the crosshair crosses paths with where the enemy team is. And 90% of the time the crosshair isn't even on the player or tracking the player.
6. Another example. 4:00 is his movement sinking with lolguy, there is no aimlock. I don't even know why this is on here is this a joke?
7. If theoretically there was an aimlock that worked through walls (why would anyone even make this?) there's no reason for him to press an aimlock key when there's a stalemate.
8. In stalemates when nothing has happened for minutes, a player can let their guard down and just be chilling and waiting to sac/waiting for a sac, there's no need to be that alert and have ur crosshair on a choke. So yes, its reasonable for him to have his crosshair in a place where there is no enemies directly in front of him. Also, placing your crosshair at a wall in between 2 doorways lets you get vision of both doorways.
This video really doesn't have anything remotely sus to me, except maybe the laz clip; but it doesn't look like he's tracking him, moreso that he's moving his mouse across his desk to look at door, and that's only 1 clip.
And if you're still convinced hes cheating then have him play against people with faceit anticheat downloaded, that shit detects anything. If he gets banned from faceit or if he performs unusually shitty with faceit anticheat on then I'll be convinced he's cheating.
Also the amount of time you'd have to have spent cherry picking for clips and editing them so that they look as sus as they can makes your case less compelling.
TL;DR There is no aimlock in TF2 that works through walls, and if it was possible it would be useless. And in fact would be IMPOSSIBLE for it to work with that many walls because of tf2 dormants. There is 0 evidence of aimlock; his crosshair doesn't track players, he happens to move in the same direction as them with his keyboard. There is 0 evidence of aimlock; his crosshair isn't even on the players. There is 0 evidence of aimlock; you slowed your clips down so much only when he places his crosshair near players. There is 0 evidence of aimlock; a cheat isn't going to be designed to lock onto a player through 2 walls in a game where you can't even wallbang people. zero evidence. I can keep going on and on...
1. Silent aim was patched in tf2, silent aim does not look like how silent aim used to look years ago. It just looks like aimlock. No evidence of silent aim.
2. You cannot aimlock onto people or stickies through walls. There simply is no tf2 cheat for that; it's only in csgo where walls are wallbang-able.
3. No cheater would aimlock onto people through walls even if they could, there's no reason to.
4. Most of the time the video is slowed down so much that it exagerrates the coincidence of elijah's crosshair being over another player. And slowing it down even more only when the crosshair is over another player just suggests you're trying to prove something that isn't really there. For example, at 2:09 his crosshair isn't even on anyone, how is that aimlock? Also he's just turning his attention away from shutter, that's normal. You can't slow a video down to 1% speed only when a crosshair is over an enemy then speed it back up to make it look like he's pausing on the player.
5. Every single clip where you claim he's locking onto people through a wall, he happens to just be in the transition of looking in another direction, so obviously the crosshair crosses paths with where the enemy team is. And 90% of the time the crosshair isn't even on the player or tracking the player.
6. Another example. 4:00 is his movement sinking with lolguy, there is no aimlock. I don't even know why this is on here is this a joke?
7. If theoretically there was an aimlock that worked through walls (why would anyone even make this?) there's no reason for him to press an aimlock key when there's a stalemate.
8. In stalemates when nothing has happened for minutes, a player can let their guard down and just be chilling and waiting to sac/waiting for a sac, there's no need to be that alert and have ur crosshair on a choke. So yes, its reasonable for him to have his crosshair in a place where there is no enemies directly in front of him. Also, placing your crosshair at a wall in between 2 doorways lets you get vision of both doorways.
This video really doesn't have anything remotely sus to me, except maybe the laz clip; but it doesn't look like he's tracking him, moreso that he's moving his mouse across his desk to look at door, and that's only 1 clip.
[u]And if you're still convinced hes cheating then have him play against people with faceit anticheat downloaded, that shit detects anything. If he gets banned from faceit or if he performs unusually shitty with faceit anticheat on then I'll be convinced he's cheating. [/u]
Also the amount of time you'd have to have spent cherry picking for clips and editing them so that they look as sus as they can makes your case less compelling.
[b]TL;DR There is no aimlock in TF2 that works through walls, and if it was possible it would be useless. And in fact would be IMPOSSIBLE for it to work with that many walls because of tf2 dormants. [/b]There is 0 evidence of aimlock; his crosshair doesn't track players, he happens to move in the same direction as them with his keyboard. There is 0 evidence of aimlock; his crosshair isn't even on the players. There is 0 evidence of aimlock; you slowed your clips down so much only when he places his crosshair near players. There is 0 evidence of aimlock; a cheat isn't going to be designed to lock onto a player through 2 walls in a game where you can't even wallbang people. zero evidence. I can keep going on and on...
If there was a tf2 cheat that was capable of locking onto people through walls, Eli is too broke to have spent the thousands of dollars it would cost to pay a coder to code a private cheat for a dead game for one client. Eli also doesn't know how to code and is probably too young dumb and lazy to learn.
blind downfrags bc im right and you cant prove me wrong...
SetsuljetzYes, strafing in the same direction doesn't require cheats.crayim gonna be honest, youre not wrong but you just have the wrong basis of informationSeriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.
Snapping onto someone through a wall does.
Like, it's 50/50 odds that he'll be moving in the same direction, no one cares about that.
The point is that literally in the first clip he turns left, stops that turn to look at a wall and someone just happens to be exactly where he's looking, turns further left, stops on a soldier also behind a wall, then looks left at a scout he can maybe see the feet of, and immediately looks right again to look exactly at the soldier again who is still behind a wall and has been moving.
It doesn't matter if there's strafe aim involved, if or how long he's tracking them, the chances of stopping those turns facing a wall exactly on a player every single time three times in a row are astronomically low.
His crosshair was aimed directly at a player once in this clip, and that was the soldier in IT. His crosshair wasn't even on the soldier in choke. He was looking at the soldier in IT to get vision of both upper lobby and choke. It looks like he was intentionally aiming there because tyson(stupid as fuck) slowed down the video so much to make it look like aimlock; even if he did pause on the soldier in IT, that's not enough evidence. That's one clip, and if he used aimlock, why didn't it lock onto the scout or the other soldier?
Seriously, in some of these he's not even moving his mouse, just holding a strafe key, so obviously his crosshair is gonna move at the same speed as another scout.[/quote]
Yes, strafing in the same direction doesn't require cheats.
Snapping onto someone through a wall does.
Like, it's 50/50 odds that he'll be moving in the same direction, no one cares about that.
The point is that literally in the first clip he turns left, stops that turn to look at a wall and someone just happens to be exactly where he's looking, turns further left, stops on a soldier also behind a wall, then looks left at a scout he can maybe see the feet of, and immediately looks right again to look exactly at the soldier again who is still behind a wall and has been moving.
It doesn't matter if there's strafe aim involved, if or how long he's tracking them, the chances of stopping those turns facing a wall exactly on a player every single time three times in a row are astronomically low.[/quote]
His crosshair was aimed directly at a player once in this clip, and that was the soldier in IT. His crosshair wasn't even on the soldier in choke. He was looking at the soldier in IT to get vision of both upper lobby and choke. It looks like he was intentionally aiming there because tyson(stupid as fuck) slowed down the video so much to make it look like aimlock; even if he did pause on the soldier in IT, that's not enough evidence. That's one clip, and if he used aimlock, why didn't it lock onto the scout or the other soldier?
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