Anyone happen to have a list of all the logs for seasons of invite or prem? Don’t imagine there’s an easy way to download ESEA logs but maybe someone has those as well (Tery or Spacecadet maybe?) Could search manually from match pages but last I remember it doesn’t link logs on RGL, maybe ETF2L does?
I remember there was some site that did statistical analysis of all the top teams and ranked players accordingly, not sure if that still exists but maybe the people behind that have this sort of data. Would ideally get it for many previous seasons to do data analysis on (doing a little machine learning side project)
Anyone happen to have a list of all the logs for seasons of invite or prem? Don’t imagine there’s an easy way to download ESEA logs but maybe someone has those as well (Tery or Spacecadet maybe?) Could search manually from match pages but last I remember it doesn’t link logs on RGL, maybe ETF2L does?
I remember there was some site that did statistical analysis of all the top teams and ranked players accordingly, not sure if that still exists but maybe the people behind that have this sort of data. Would ideally get it for many previous seasons to do data analysis on (doing a little machine learning side project)
https://tf2db.github.io/tf2database/
https://tf2metrics.wordpress.com/
1jayyhttps://tf2db.github.io/tf2database/
https://tf2metrics.wordpress.com/
we need an update on that 2nd one Tbh. Its very cool to look at but extremely old, from season 2 rgl looks like
[quote=1jayy]https://tf2db.github.io/tf2database/
https://tf2metrics.wordpress.com/[/quote]
we need an update on that 2nd one Tbh. Its very cool to look at but extremely old, from season 2 rgl looks like
Are you looking for anything specific or just general stats for everyone who played? I have my printouts and binders from when I did the database and they only show:
Teams that played
Match Results
Map Played
Points, Frags, Deaths
You can't pull any "logs" from the ESEA website that I am aware of but you can do searches to find the info and it would be a fucking exhaustive process.
If you know the team name you would have to scroll to the season desired and then change your results from "scrims" to "league" and it would show you the recorded logs for those matches. Some match logs are bugged but I believe most of them would still be available for basic info like frags/deaths and such.
here is an example from 2012
1088 DPM seems a bit high but Platinum was pretty good back then :)
Are you looking for anything specific or just general stats for everyone who played? I have my printouts and binders from when I did the database and they only show:
Teams that played
Match Results
Map Played
Points, Frags, Deaths
You can't pull any "logs" from the ESEA website that I am aware of but you can do searches to find the info and it would be a fucking exhaustive process.
If you know the team name you would have to scroll to the season desired and then change your results from "scrims" to "league" and it would show you the recorded logs for those matches. Some match logs are bugged but I believe most of them would still be available for basic info like frags/deaths and such.
[url=https://play.esea.net/match/3063254]here is an example from 2012[/url]
1088 DPM seems a bit high but Platinum was pretty good back then :)
SpaceCadet1088 DPM seems a bit high but Platinum was pretty good back then :)
I'm pretty sure that the DPM in these old ESEA logs is just doubled for some reason
[quote=SpaceCadet]
1088 DPM seems a bit high but Platinum was pretty good back then :)[/quote]
I'm pretty sure that the DPM in these old ESEA logs is just doubled for some reason
I'll share what I have:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lIWanf0VQi3xiLzwJC_SLSSuRo78SCpFsB_19h8qK9Q/edit?usp=sharing
I've tried to compile a spreadsheet of logs with ETF2L prem matches I have the logs for. It should also contain logs for ozfortress and some RGL 6s seasons. I think I set it to public correctly but if not give me a heads up :)
Few notes:
- these are only up to 2021-ish, I gave up on the project I was using these for a long time ago
- no playoffs logs are included since I was using these in a project that would compare only stats for the regular season
- while I'm fairly confident the ETF2L ones are correct because of every match having a list of people who played in that match (due to uploaded status screenshots), I can't vouch for the accuracy of the RGL ones at all. There was no easy way for me to get these painlessly so there might be a few scrim logs in here I'm afraid.
- the ozfortress ones I did manually, the aussies were nice enough to post their logs on the match pages almost every single time :)
- with a few exceptions none of these are combined logs
idk what kind of target you're looking to train if you are planning to use these for machine learning, if you need something added I can check if I can add it to my db query
I'll share what I have:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lIWanf0VQi3xiLzwJC_SLSSuRo78SCpFsB_19h8qK9Q/edit?usp=sharing
I've tried to compile a spreadsheet of logs with ETF2L prem matches I have the logs for. It should also contain logs for ozfortress and some RGL 6s seasons. I think I set it to public correctly but if not give me a heads up :)
Few notes:
- these are only up to 2021-ish, I gave up on the project I was using these for a long time ago
- no playoffs logs are included since I was using these in a project that would compare only stats for the regular season
- while I'm fairly confident the ETF2L ones are correct because of every match having a list of people who played in that match (due to uploaded status screenshots), I can't vouch for the accuracy of the RGL ones at all. There was no easy way for me to get these painlessly so there might be a few scrim logs in here I'm afraid.
- the ozfortress ones I did manually, the aussies were nice enough to post their logs on the match pages almost every single time :)
- with a few exceptions none of these are combined logs
idk what kind of target you're looking to train if you are planning to use these for machine learning, if you need something added I can check if I can add it to my db query
@Adje word thanks a ton this is exactly the type of thing I was looking for, I can just manually double check the RGL ones and try to find non-combined versions for any of them which are combined matches
as a side note if anyone has ideas they’d be interested in someone analyzing feel free to post or msg me
current ideas:
- which metrics are the most accurate predictor of wins for a certain class (e.g., does KD actually not matter on roamer, which stats are actually most important to look at for evaluating meds)
- make a tool to generate additional insights on a single log: which players had the most impact/least impact on that particular game (potentially making use of the ‘events’ in a log to count things like who dropped a med, vs the overall summary stats of total kills)
- train a model to predict the outcome of a pug or match just by the players in it and their classes (could be used for automated pug balancing like mixchamp/faceit)
- make some tool where a player can look themselves up and find stats over all logs like avg dpm for a given class/map, as well as seeing their “elo”/rank according to the model above
- limit the data just to pugchamp (easy to identify bc the name) and find the most valuable player (delpo, obviously) whose inclusion in pug teams made the most impact on their teams winning (would be interesting to compare what this comes up with vs pugchamp’s elo system if I could get that data from erynn/tsc/whoever has access to it)
- minor contribution but was thinking it would be cool to include stuff like forces, times you dropped a med, backcaps on logs.tf through a browser plugin (similar to the one that gives DPM - DT/M), maybe even minor things like times flashed w/ uber or dropped from uber altho that might be harder to determine, thinking it could be useful for casts
@Adje word thanks a ton this is exactly the type of thing I was looking for, I can just manually double check the RGL ones and try to find non-combined versions for any of them which are combined matches
as a side note if anyone has ideas they’d be interested in someone analyzing feel free to post or msg me
current ideas:
- which metrics are the most accurate predictor of wins for a certain class (e.g., does KD actually not matter on roamer, which stats are actually most important to look at for evaluating meds)
- make a tool to generate additional insights on a single log: which players had the most impact/least impact on that particular game (potentially making use of the ‘events’ in a log to count things like who dropped a med, vs the overall summary stats of total kills)
- train a model to predict the outcome of a pug or match just by the players in it and their classes (could be used for automated pug balancing like mixchamp/faceit)
- make some tool where a player can look themselves up and find stats over all logs like avg dpm for a given class/map, as well as seeing their “elo”/rank according to the model above
- limit the data just to pugchamp (easy to identify bc the name) and find the most valuable player (delpo, obviously) whose inclusion in pug teams made the most impact on their teams winning (would be interesting to compare what this comes up with vs pugchamp’s elo system if I could get that data from erynn/tsc/whoever has access to it)
- minor contribution but was thinking it would be cool to include stuff like forces, times you dropped a med, backcaps on logs.tf through a browser plugin (similar to the one that gives DPM - DT/M), maybe even minor things like times flashed w/ uber or dropped from uber altho that might be harder to determine, thinking it could be useful for casts