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yuki's demo reviews
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Decided to make a new thread. I will seperate the demos into different categories, dependent on whether it's a different class/role or if it's an STV/team demo. From time to time I will review my own demos, and sometimes players in my team. Keep an eye out for them as we give an insight into our play! I will label the demos that are iM players' , and label the others to the best of my ability

Pocket
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQZYRHEmfo8 (iM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5TgIktJK44 (iM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ymWh0Pg0gY(marez - mix team)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyk8d2mwZuo(revamped dougs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnl2sc60ftw (servo - ESEA IM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVhFdDXriE (ole - LBTF Main)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoM8gqEsC4 (ole - LBTF Main)
Roamer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q376nF4L7KQ (iM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yckQNsq13AE (iM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqno_pnfSlM (low division?)
Scout
http://www.twitch.tv/yookstah/c/2084715 (downpour: NA IM/Invite?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgAyspKInU (lena: div 5 EU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHdOhx07ALo (yuki: r5 ESEA Invite)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaYWRcyY6KI (allen: ESEA Open)

Medic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnCTrv1tDRs (crown: div 5 EU)

Demoman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q4vpt4uk0g(maidos: EU div 4a)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E5y9kkzExc (tek: AU div 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHyokgPq9oE (maidos: EU div 4a)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMox-1oAOPI(hayze: AU div 2)

Team/Other
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVFNVE4y7PA (viaduct tips - iM pov/STV, ty steampipe)

Be sure to follow me on twitch (http://twitch.tv/yookstah) as I'll be regularly doing as many as I can/feel like (often with extra people reviewing as well). Subscribe to my youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/shinuftw), as I'll be putting the vods up on there from now on.

If you're posting a new demo to review, please use this format.

Demoname: player_vs_teamname_map_date.dem (yuki_vs_rewound_badlands_april4.dem)
Class/role:
Division(if possible):
Other notes: eg. why do our ubers suck?
EDIT: Please zip/archive your demos. :)

Thanks guys.

Decided to make a new thread. I will seperate the demos into different categories, dependent on whether it's a different class/role or if it's an STV/team demo. From time to time I will review my own demos, and sometimes players in my team. Keep an eye out for them as we give an insight into our play! I will label the demos that are iM players' , and label the others to the best of my ability

[b]Pocket[/b]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQZYRHEmfo8 (iM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5TgIktJK44 (iM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ymWh0Pg0gY(marez - mix team)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyk8d2mwZuo(revamped dougs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnl2sc60ftw (servo - ESEA IM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVhFdDXriE (ole - LBTF Main)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoM8gqEsC4 (ole - LBTF Main)
[b]Roamer[/b]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q376nF4L7KQ (iM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yckQNsq13AE (iM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqno_pnfSlM (low division?)
[b]Scout[/b]
http://www.twitch.tv/yookstah/c/2084715 (downpour: NA IM/Invite?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgAyspKInU (lena: div 5 EU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHdOhx07ALo (yuki: r5 ESEA Invite)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaYWRcyY6KI (allen: ESEA Open)

[b]Medic[/b]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnCTrv1tDRs (crown: div 5 EU)


[b]Demoman[/b]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q4vpt4uk0g(maidos: EU div 4a)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E5y9kkzExc (tek: AU div 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHyokgPq9oE (maidos: EU div 4a)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMox-1oAOPI(hayze: AU div 2)

[b]Team/Other[/b]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVFNVE4y7PA (viaduct tips - iM pov/STV, ty steampipe)

Be sure to follow me on twitch (http://twitch.tv/yookstah) as I'll be regularly doing as many as I can/feel like (often with extra people reviewing as well). Subscribe to my youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/shinuftw), as I'll be putting the vods up on there from now on.

If you're posting a new demo to review, please use this format.

Demoname: player_vs_teamname_map_date.dem (yuki_vs_rewound_badlands_april4.dem)
Class/role:
Division(if possible):
Other notes: eg. why do our ubers suck?
EDIT: Please zip/archive your demos. :)

Thanks guys.
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#2
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This is fun :~)

Keep the demos coming!

This is fun :~)

Keep the demos coming!
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#3
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I love these, they're awesome and fun to watch. I love how critical you guys are too, even of yourselves. :3

I love these, they're awesome and fun to watch. I love how critical you guys are too, even of yourselves. :3
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#4
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I enjoy watching your reviews.

PS: Maidos is about div4 afaik? :D

I enjoy watching your reviews.

PS: Maidos is about div4 afaik? :D
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Correct. Updated.

Correct. Updated.
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#6
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Do some of your med, or Mirelin

Do some of your med, or Mirelin
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#7
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Yuki reviews are best reviews.

Yuki reviews are best reviews.
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#8
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yukiScout
http://www.twitch.tv/yookstah/c/2084715 (downpour: NA Invite/IM)

B)B)B)B)B)B)B)B)B)B)B)

[quote=yuki][b]Scout[/b]
http://www.twitch.tv/yookstah/c/2084715 [b](downpour: NA Invite/IM)[/b]
[/quote]
B)B)B)B)B)B)B)B)B)B)B)
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#9
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Demoname: http://www.mediafire.com/?edf46n457fgdcqv#! (demos are in there)
Class/role: demo
Division(if possible): 2
Other notes: nothing in particular

Demoname: http://www.mediafire.com/?edf46n457fgdcqv#! (demos are in there)
Class/role: demo
Division(if possible): 2
Other notes: nothing in particular
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#10
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Shot Yuki. I'll put one up when we actually play on an ozf server i.e. one that records demos :)

Shot Yuki. I'll put one up when we actually play on an ozf server i.e. one that records demos :)
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I've got another for ya!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54614942/2013-04-23-21-33-dmm_vs_baka-cp_process_rc2.dem
div5 scrim on Process.

This looks like our lineup for next season, we finally have a strong maincaller (pocket), but I'd like you to look at our scout lena (not a girl) who we're trying to convert to a pocket scout, but the role doesn't come naturally to low division scouts.

I've got another for ya!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54614942/2013-04-23-21-33-dmm_vs_baka-cp_process_rc2.dem
div5 scrim on Process.

This looks like our lineup for next season, we finally have a strong maincaller (pocket), but I'd like you to look at our scout lena (not a girl) who we're trying to convert to a pocket scout, but the role doesn't come naturally to low division scouts.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5ufyq01sim92u2/april23_Pink_vs_licious_granary.dem
division: none i guess...
I was playing on this scrim as scout with 200 ping and most of my team mates, because the leader was asking for subs and he was also my friend so i volunteered. the reason i was playing with 200 ping cause no one will sub their team and i feel bad for him even though so i joined even though i was lagging:D

What to do as scout/pocket on mids?
how to know when to push as a team?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5ufyq01sim92u2/april23_Pink_vs_licious_granary.dem
division: none i guess...
I was playing on this scrim as scout with 200 ping and most of my team mates, because the leader was asking for subs and he was also my friend so i volunteered. the reason i was playing with 200 ping cause no one will sub their team and i feel bad for him even though so i joined even though i was lagging:D

What to do as scout/pocket on mids?
how to know when to push as a team?
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#13
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That demo was unbearably laggy. Any chance of you uploading a demo where you are not lagging? So many things change because of ping, and it is pretty much impossible to watch.

Also edit- changed the format. Please see the amended OP.

That demo was unbearably laggy. Any chance of you uploading a demo where you are not lagging? So many things change because of ping, and it is pretty much impossible to watch.

Also edit- changed the format. Please see the amended OP.
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#14
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If you accept reviews of other players, have a look at Epsilon schocky's POV from the ETF2L S14 grand final.

http://www.vanillatf2.org/demos/420

Sometimes I find that watching demos of higher div players is hard to learn from because the thought processes that they go through are over my head. This can make it difficult to draw more from the experience than "he hits his shots better than I do". A more experienced player like yourself might be able to elucidate some of the finer points I would miss.

Picked this demo because it's the latest prem scout one I've seen uploaded.

If you accept reviews of other players, have a look at Epsilon schocky's POV from the ETF2L S14 grand final.

http://www.vanillatf2.org/demos/420

Sometimes I find that watching demos of higher div players is hard to learn from because the thought processes that they go through are over my head. This can make it difficult to draw more from the experience than "he hits his shots better than I do". A more experienced player like yourself might be able to elucidate some of the finer points I would miss.

Picked this demo because it's the latest prem scout one I've seen uploaded.
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#15
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Demoname: http://www.mediafire.com/?bsjdlqhssad8o5a
Class/role: Rangi as Roamer
Division(if possible): 4
Other notes: rK have recently reformed so our play is a bit scrappy and I've only just moved to roamer. Any thoughts on areas for improvement generally pertaining to the roamer class would be awesome- how to improve in my role as roamer. I am also calling at the moment which may change as it is difficult on the flank to call effectively.

Also this demo is on Aphorias ozf Roamer page but I thought I'd link it here too cheers man :)

Demoname: http://www.mediafire.com/?bsjdlqhssad8o5a
Class/role: Rangi as Roamer
Division(if possible): 4
Other notes: rK have recently reformed so our play is a bit scrappy and I've only just moved to roamer. Any thoughts on areas for improvement generally pertaining to the roamer class would be awesome- how to improve in my role as roamer. I am also calling at the moment which may change as it is difficult on the flank to call effectively.

Also this demo is on Aphorias ozf Roamer page but I thought I'd link it here too cheers man :)
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#16
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yuki(general scout advice: we ripped into kohaku while watching this re: he didn't ask for it).

Welp.

On one hand, being publicly dunce-capped and used as a general example of suckitude is kind of depressing, but on the other hand it's my own fault for being that generally shitty anyway. I've been seeking out advice/mentoring for my own play recently anyway, so thanks for the review, I guess.

[quote=yuki](general scout advice: we ripped into kohaku while watching this re: he didn't ask for it).[/quote]
Welp.

On one hand, being publicly dunce-capped and used as a general example of suckitude is kind of depressing, but on the other hand it's my own fault for being that generally shitty anyway. I've been seeking out advice/mentoring for my own play recently anyway, so thanks for the review, [i]I guess.[/i]
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#17
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yukiThat demo was unbearably laggy. Any chance of you uploading a demo where you are not lagging? So many things change because of ping, and it is pretty much impossible to watch.

Also edit- changed the format. Please see the amended OP.

Demoname:https://www.dropbox.com/s/j7ozn7shge1s5qt/Pink_vs_Purr_badlands_march2.dem
Class/Role:demo
Division:none(hopefully you can tell me)
Other notes:What to do as scout/demo on mids?
how to defend spire?
how to know when to push?

This is the best i could do
on the first midfight it was laggy like 200, but it turned into 150 below leter at the game..
sorry i usually play with high ping cause my isp sucks:C
Sorry.. Best i could do. even as a asia player i still lag in AFL D:

[quote=yuki]That demo was unbearably laggy. Any chance of you uploading a demo where you are not lagging? So many things change because of ping, and it is pretty much impossible to watch.

Also edit- changed the format. Please see the amended OP.[/quote]
Demoname:https://www.dropbox.com/s/j7ozn7shge1s5qt/Pink_vs_Purr_badlands_march2.dem
Class/Role:demo
Division:none(hopefully you can tell me)
Other notes:What to do as scout/demo on mids?
how to defend spire?
how to know when to push?

This is the best i could do
on the first midfight it was laggy like 200, but it turned into 150 below leter at the game..
sorry i usually play with high ping cause my isp sucks:C
Sorry.. Best i could do. even as a asia player i still lag in AFL D:
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#18
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Kohakuyuki(general scout advice: we ripped into kohaku while watching this re: he didn't ask for it).Welp.

On one hand, being publicly dunce-capped and used as a general example of suckitude is kind of depressing, but on the other hand it's my own fault for being that generally shitty anyway. I've been seeking out advice/mentoring for my own play recently anyway, so thanks for the review, I guess.

We aren't targeting/criticizing you necessarily as a player, it's just that your actions/decision making in the demo were... mostly questionable.

I'm sure you'll improve in good time if you take the criticism on board and get out of some nasty habits (eg. 3-4 scatters on demo in mid!)

[quote=Kohaku][quote=yuki](general scout advice: we ripped into kohaku while watching this re: he didn't ask for it).[/quote]
Welp.

On one hand, being publicly dunce-capped and used as a general example of suckitude is kind of depressing, but on the other hand it's my own fault for being that generally shitty anyway. I've been seeking out advice/mentoring for my own play recently anyway, so thanks for the review, [i]I guess.[/i][/quote]

We aren't targeting/criticizing you necessarily as a player, it's just that your actions/decision making in the demo were... mostly questionable.

I'm sure you'll improve in good time if you take the criticism on board and get out of some nasty habits (eg. 3-4 scatters on demo in mid!)
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Demoname: http://www.mediafire.com/?t37dig3oxa4siee
class/role: Scout
Division: Soon to be ugc steel.
other notes: We are a new team and our play is pretty scrappy as someone said before me, I don't really know what it is that I should be doing at mids. I also feel like I'm not playing on the flank like I should be and make a lot of dumb decisions. Any advice would help and also thanks for putting time aside to do this.

edit: forgot to put the map name its process :s

Demoname: http://www.mediafire.com/?t37dig3oxa4siee
class/role: Scout
Division: Soon to be ugc steel.
other notes: We are a new team and our play is pretty scrappy as someone said before me, I don't really know what it is that I should be doing at mids. I also feel like I'm not playing on the flank like I should be and make a lot of dumb decisions. Any advice would help and also thanks for putting time aside to do this.

edit: forgot to put the map name its process :s
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#20
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yukiKohakuyuki(general scout advice: we ripped into kohaku while watching this re: he didn't ask for it).Welp.

On one hand, being publicly dunce-capped and used as a general example of suckitude is kind of depressing, but on the other hand it's my own fault for being that generally shitty anyway. I've been seeking out advice/mentoring for my own play recently anyway, so thanks for the review, I guess.

We aren't targeting/criticizing you necessarily as a player, it's just that your actions/decision making in the demo were... mostly questionable.

I'm sure you'll improve in good time if you take the criticism on board and get out of some nasty habits (eg. 3-4 scatters on demo in mid!)

there's criticism and there's just being a plain asshole. I think you know which one you did. It was really undeserved and not at all what I think the whole point of reviewing demos was about. Just a really awful way to give respects to anyone who is willing to trust you to help them. You might not have intended to target the guy as a player but you very well did just that. Hope you feel bad, man.

[quote=yuki][quote=Kohaku][quote=yuki](general scout advice: we ripped into kohaku while watching this re: he didn't ask for it).[/quote]
Welp.

On one hand, being publicly dunce-capped and used as a general example of suckitude is kind of depressing, but on the other hand it's my own fault for being that generally shitty anyway. I've been seeking out advice/mentoring for my own play recently anyway, so thanks for the review, [i]I guess.[/i][/quote]

We aren't targeting/criticizing you necessarily as a player, it's just that your actions/decision making in the demo were... mostly questionable.

I'm sure you'll improve in good time if you take the criticism on board and get out of some nasty habits (eg. 3-4 scatters on demo in mid!)[/quote]
there's criticism and there's just being a plain asshole. I think you know which one you did. It was really undeserved and not at all what I think the whole point of reviewing demos was about. Just a really awful way to give respects to anyone who is willing to trust you to help them. You might not have intended to target the guy as a player but you very well did just that. Hope you feel bad, man.
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#21
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pov demo http://www.mediafire.com/?5ysuhnssd893g2k
Class/role: demo
Division 4

So i always get told that i should never do my rollout to right side since we always lose mid so i would like to know from my point of view i did anytrhing from in terms of my positioning and gameplay?
We gave the rounds way too many times
just curious what div level i could play in au?

pov demo http://www.mediafire.com/?5ysuhnssd893g2k
Class/role: demo
Division 4

So i always get told that i should never do my rollout to right side since we always lose mid so i would like to know from my point of view i did anytrhing from in terms of my positioning and gameplay?
We gave the rounds way too many times
just curious what div level i could play in au?
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#22
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Kohakuyuki(general scout advice: we ripped into kohaku while watching this re: he didn't ask for it).Welp.

On one hand, being publicly dunce-capped and used as a general example of suckitude is kind of depressing, but on the other hand it's my own fault for being that generally shitty anyway. I've been seeking out advice/mentoring for my own play recently anyway, so thanks for the review, I guess.

Ok. I'll do a more heartfelt reply.

Antwa, aporia and I apologise for making you look like an idiot. Despite us not wanting to directly insult you or your play, we unfortunately (and inadvertently) did so as a result of our harsh criticism. You didn't deserve to be made an example of, and didn't even ask for the review in the first place.

At your request, I can delete the history of the vod/highlight, if you feel uncomfortable with it staying there.

[quote=Kohaku][quote=yuki](general scout advice: we ripped into kohaku while watching this re: he didn't ask for it).[/quote]
Welp.

On one hand, being publicly dunce-capped and used as a general example of suckitude is kind of depressing, but on the other hand it's my own fault for being that generally shitty anyway. I've been seeking out advice/mentoring for my own play recently anyway, so thanks for the review, [i]I guess.[/i][/quote]

Ok. I'll do a more heartfelt reply.

Antwa, aporia and I apologise for making you look like an idiot. Despite us not wanting to directly insult you or your play, we unfortunately (and inadvertently) did so as a result of our harsh criticism. You didn't deserve to be made an example of, and didn't even ask for the review in the first place.

At your request, I can delete the history of the vod/highlight, if you feel uncomfortable with it staying there.
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#23
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Apology accepted, I appreciate it.

I think it's probably for the best if the vod gets deleted though, yes.

Apology accepted, I appreciate it.

I think it's probably for the best if the vod gets deleted though, yes.
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#24
-3 Frags +

It's a service to the community to leave it up. But do what you want.

It's a service to the community to leave it up. But do what you want.
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#25
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Demoname: http://www.mediafire.com/?7ryut725569gls6
Class: Pocket
ESEA IM Pocket

Why do our last pushes fail so much? Am I overextending for kills? Am I focusing the medic to much?

Also please tell me what you suggest I should do at mids, I feel like badlands is not the best of mids for me and I would like to change that.

Demoname: http://www.mediafire.com/?7ryut725569gls6
Class: Pocket
ESEA IM Pocket

Why do our last pushes fail so much? Am I overextending for kills? Am I focusing the medic to much?

Also please tell me what you suggest I should do at mids, I feel like badlands is not the best of mids for me and I would like to change that.
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#26
-2 Frags +

http://www73.zippyshare.com/v/99367395/file.html
medic mix this time

http://www73.zippyshare.com/v/99367395/file.html
medic mix this time
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#27
2 Frags +

Marez, you should be playing with Droidster's team and posting demos from that. What use is asking for help on a class you'll never play in a team?

Marez, you should be playing with Droidster's team and posting demos from that. What use is asking for help on a class you'll never play in a team?
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#28
1 Frags +

Demoname : https://www.dropbox.com/s/6o4sbaue56pwbkq/ole_vs_bx3_badlands_march30.rar
Class : Soldier Pocket
Notes : Positioning , Spam , etc
tyy =)

Demoname : https://www.dropbox.com/s/6o4sbaue56pwbkq/ole_vs_bx3_badlands_march30.rar
Class : Soldier Pocket
Notes : Positioning , Spam , etc
tyy =)
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#29
2 Frags +

Just posting to let you know that I have enjoyed your demo reviews for scout and have found them to be very informative.

I am also glad to see you apologize to Kohaku and for offering to remove the VOD. I don't mind a harsh review, but it was uncalled for to do it on someone who didn't ask for one, so thank you for admitting fault and being respectful about the whole thing.

Just posting to let you know that I have enjoyed your demo reviews for scout and have found them to be very informative.

I am also glad to see you apologize to Kohaku and for offering to remove the VOD. I don't mind a harsh review, but it was uncalled for to do it on someone who didn't ask for one, so thank you for admitting fault and being respectful about the whole thing.
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#30
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54614942/2013-04-29-20-57-KINGS_vs_SNOR-cp_badlands.7z

div5 scrim on Badlands. Bad game for us, please focus on Zyberst the roamer, tyvm lv yr wrk.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54614942/2013-04-29-20-57-KINGS_vs_SNOR-cp_badlands.7z

div5 scrim on Badlands. Bad game for us, please focus on Zyberst the roamer, tyvm lv yr wrk.
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