So I've finally decided to do a significant upgrade to my current setup, which can run tf2 at about ~20 fps during a firefight. I've done a little research, but not enough to know what hardware to get over others, or how to mix and match properly.
Some things I'm looking for specifically:
-Dual monitor setup. This is definitely the most important thing I want for my build, considering I'll be using it for a lot of engineering programs as well.
-High refresh monitor, if it fits the budget. I've heard a little and it seems like the Asus 144hz monitor is pretty good, and apparently cheaper than the BenQ 120hz ones. Any downside to that/is it a good choice?
-Pretty much enough computer power to actually utilize the refresh rate increase. I really want to experience playing a game where I can actually have constant high fps all the time.
-8gb or more of RAM. Every computer I've used has always only had 2gb, and it's getting pretty frustrating to have programs constantly freezing and crashing.
-Hard drive with 1tb space. Not really interested in an SSD at this point.
-Case really isn't a priority at all, I just want the cheapest I can get that suffices and fits all the parts.
-Already have a good keyboard, mouse, and headphones.
The million-dollar question - is such a build possible for my budget? I'd like to keep it at around $1000, though I could go over just a teeny bit. Any help is appreciated, from individual part suggestions to vendors.
Again, I'm not an expert with hardware, just have a cursory knowledge from surfing around and seeing the benefits of building a pc yourself.
So I've finally decided to do a significant upgrade to my current setup, which can run tf2 at about ~20 fps during a firefight. I've done a little research, but not enough to know what hardware to get over others, or how to mix and match properly.
Some things I'm looking for specifically:
-Dual monitor setup. This is definitely the most important thing I want for my build, considering I'll be using it for a lot of engineering programs as well.
-High refresh monitor, if it fits the budget. I've heard a little and it seems like the Asus 144hz monitor is pretty good, and apparently cheaper than the BenQ 120hz ones. Any downside to that/is it a good choice?
-Pretty much enough computer power to actually utilize the refresh rate increase. I really want to experience playing a game where I can actually have constant high fps all the time.
-8gb or more of RAM. Every computer I've used has always only had 2gb, and it's getting pretty frustrating to have programs constantly freezing and crashing.
-Hard drive with 1tb space. Not really interested in an SSD at this point.
-Case really isn't a priority at all, I just want the cheapest I can get that suffices and fits all the parts.
-Already have a good keyboard, mouse, and headphones.
The million-dollar question - is such a build possible for my budget? I'd like to keep it at around $1000, though I could go over just a teeny bit. Any help is appreciated, from individual part suggestions to vendors.
Again, I'm not an expert with hardware, just have a cursory knowledge from surfing around and seeing the benefits of building a pc yourself.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
I should note that it's much better to get a good CPU/Mobo than a good GPU since it's much cheaper to upgrade a GPU than a CPU/Mobo
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
I should note that it's much better to get a good CPU/Mobo than a good GPU since it's much cheaper to upgrade a GPU than a CPU/Mobo
If you're going to do a dual monitor setup, you probably won't be able to get the 120hz/144hz monitor.
Anyways, here's a build that I made without the monitor.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.55 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.30 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.28 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($269.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1003.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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If you're going to do a dual monitor setup, you probably won't be able to get the 120hz/144hz monitor.
Anyways, here's a build that I made without the monitor.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WdGI]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WdGI/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WdGI/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8350frhkbox]AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor[/url] ($189.55 @ Amazon)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrb10212pg1]Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($19.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a99fxpror20]Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard[/url] ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml8gx3m2a1866c9b]Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory[/url] ($67.30 @ NCIX US)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($66.28 @ Amazon)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx660tidc2o2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card[/url] ($269.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcaarcr2blw]Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu650txv2]Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050]Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)
[b]Total:[/b] $1003.02
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
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RawrSpoonhttp://www.logicalincrements.com/
I should note that it's much better to get a good CPU/Mobo than a good GPU since it's much cheaper to upgrade a GPU than a CPU/Mobo
I'll definitely take a look, thanks. I'm not sure about what I could actually use though, since I seem to remember hearing that certain hardware won't work with certain CPUs, or something of that nature.
KiritoIf you're going to do a dual monitor setup, you probably won't be able to get the 120hz/144hz monitor.
Why do you say that? Is it price, or would the video card not be able to handle it? What if the second monitor was fairly cheap?
And I appreciate the parts list, I'll definitely look into that.
[quote=RawrSpoon]http://www.logicalincrements.com/
I should note that it's much better to get a good CPU/Mobo than a good GPU since it's much cheaper to upgrade a GPU than a CPU/Mobo[/quote]
I'll definitely take a look, thanks. I'm not sure about what I could actually use though, since I seem to remember hearing that certain hardware won't work with certain CPUs, or something of that nature.
[quote=Kirito]If you're going to do a dual monitor setup, you probably won't be able to get the 120hz/144hz monitor.[/quote]
Why do you say that? Is it price, or would the video card not be able to handle it? What if the second monitor was fairly cheap?
And I appreciate the parts list, I'll definitely look into that.
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I suggest getting an i5 over any AMD cpu if you're mostly gaming. Been on a laptop until recently, and got a i5-3570K. Runs tf2 like a beast.
I suggest getting an i5 over any AMD cpu if you're mostly gaming. Been on a laptop until recently, and got a i5-3570K. Runs tf2 like a beast.
MJI suggest getting an i5 over any AMD cpu if you're mostly gaming. Been on a laptop until recently, and got a i5-3570K. Runs tf2 like a beast.
I've said this to many other people, the FX-8350 is pretty much on par with the i5-3570k in pure gaming, but it actually runs much faster when streaming and editing. Gaming + Streaming + Editing, it pretty much beats the 3570k combined
EXAMPLE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc
[quote=MJ]I suggest getting an i5 over any AMD cpu if you're mostly gaming. Been on a laptop until recently, and got a i5-3570K. Runs tf2 like a beast.[/quote] I've said this to many other people, the FX-8350 is pretty much on par with the i5-3570k in pure gaming, but it actually runs much faster when streaming and editing. Gaming + Streaming + Editing, it pretty much beats the 3570k combined
EXAMPLE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc
TheJesterRawrSpoonhttp://www.logicalincrements.com/
Why do you say that? Is it price, or would the video card not be able to handle it? What if the second monitor was fairly cheap?
And I appreciate the parts list, I'll definitely look into that,
The second monitor CAN handle it, but if you're playing other graphics-intensive games, you'll probably have to turn it on and off.
[quote=TheJester][quote=RawrSpoon]http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Why do you say that? Is it price, or would the video card not be able to handle it? What if the second monitor was fairly cheap?
And I appreciate the parts list, I'll definitely look into that,[/quote]
The second monitor CAN handle it, but if you're playing other graphics-intensive games, you'll probably have to turn it on and off.
Kirito(arxen was it?) That's a good build but seeing as how this man just wants to play tf2 for the most part i don't think the 660 ti is necessary. I'd suggest a 650 ti boost or 660 both with 2gb. Btw i'd suggest going for the cheaper 1600 freq ram but at this point the price difference is hardly worth stepping down.
The 8350 chip is actually very good and it is amd's pride and joy. If not the 8350, i suggest the 3570k or 2500k(ocs better than the 3570k). Here is the build i suggest - http://pcpartpicker.com/user/oblivionage/saved/1zQM
You'll have to research and see what you'd like for a second monitor because i don't know of any off the top of my head. It seems to be pretty hard to fit 2 in that budget (especially with the 144hz monitor being 270)
Kirito(arxen was it?) That's a good build but seeing as how this man just wants to play tf2 for the most part i don't think the 660 ti is necessary. I'd suggest a 650 ti boost or 660 both with 2gb. Btw i'd suggest going for the cheaper 1600 freq ram but at this point the price difference is hardly worth stepping down.
The 8350 chip is actually very good and it is amd's pride and joy. If not the 8350, i suggest the 3570k or 2500k(ocs better than the 3570k). Here is the build i suggest - http://pcpartpicker.com/user/oblivionage/saved/1zQM
You'll have to research and see what you'd like for a second monitor because i don't know of any off the top of my head. It seems to be pretty hard to fit 2 in that budget (especially with the 144hz monitor being 270)
Well really the only reason I don't play more games than TF2 is because it doesn't really seem like I can with my current computer. Once I build one that can handle it I do plan on branching out and playing games that have been in my steam inventory forever, I don't think they'd be super intensive though.
Oblivionage, with your build, would a second monitor be possible?
Also, how much fps could I expect with something like this or Kirito's build? If there's a potential for drops, what could I upgrade to improve that?
Well really the only reason I don't play more games than TF2 is because it doesn't really seem like I can with my current computer. Once I build one that can handle it I do plan on branching out and playing games that have been in my steam inventory forever, I don't think they'd be super intensive though.
Oblivionage, with your build, would a second monitor be possible?
Also, how much fps could I expect with something like this or Kirito's build? If there's a potential for drops, what could I upgrade to improve that?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wf98
Try this I guess. If going 60 over bothers you, you can downgrade to an FX 6300. That hits 1k flat, but the 8350 is worth it if you can spare the money.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wf98
Try this I guess. If going 60 over bothers you, you can downgrade to an FX 6300. That hits 1k flat, but the 8350 is worth it if you can spare the money.
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ECS H77H2-M3(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.28 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $661.18
Just grab the $100 120hz from frys and some random 60hz, you don't need 2 120hz monitor, this should be fine for practically any game you want unless you are trying to run games on 100% max
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k]Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/ecs-motherboard-h77h2m310]ECS H77H2-M3(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard[/url] ($58.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m1a1600c10b]Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($52.98 @ Outlet PC)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($66.28 @ Amazon)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-fx787acnfc]XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card[/url] ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210001]NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($34.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-optical-drive-gh24ns95]LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
[b]Total:[/b] $661.18
Just grab the $100 120hz from frys and some random 60hz, you don't need 2 120hz monitor, this should be fine for practically any game you want unless you are trying to run games on 100% max
Without the monitor.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WhIr]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WhIr/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WhIr/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k]Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrb10212pg1]Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($19.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz77xd3h]Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard[/url] ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9r]Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($62.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($66.28 @ Amazon)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003523l]Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card[/url] ($289.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-case-one]Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu650txv2]Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $874.21
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
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Why would you show him builds without any monitors when he has explicitly stated that he wants two?
Why would you show him builds without any monitors when he has explicitly stated that he wants two?
Holy shit guys, he doesn't need a 7950 or a 660 ti just to run tf2 with another monitor. What I have is an fx-8350 @ 4.4ghz and a sapphire 7850 2GB @ 1140 MHz (please be aware this is a 33% overclock) and I have a dual monitor setup. I always get above 120fps.
Holy shit guys, he doesn't need a 7950 or a 660 ti just to run tf2 with another monitor. What I have is an fx-8350 @ 4.4ghz and a sapphire 7850 2GB @ 1140 MHz (please be aware this is a 33% overclock) and I have a dual monitor setup. I always get above 120fps.
EmmaWatsonHoly shit guys, he doesn't need a 7950 or a 660 ti just to run tf2 with another monitor. What I have is an fx-8350 @ 4.4ghz and a sapphire 7850 2GB @ 1140 MHz (please be aware this is a 33% overclock) and I have a dual monitor setup. I always get above 120fps.
"Once I build one that can handle it I do plan on branching out and playing games that have been in my steam inventory forever"
[quote=EmmaWatson]Holy shit guys, he doesn't need a 7950 or a 660 ti [b]just to run tf2[/b] with another monitor. What I have is an fx-8350 @ 4.4ghz and a sapphire 7850 2GB @ 1140 MHz (please be aware this is a 33% overclock) and I have a dual monitor setup. I always get above 120fps.[/quote]
"Once I build one that can handle it I do plan on branching out and playing games that have been in my steam inventory forever"
zilisEmmaWatsonHoly shit guys, he doesn't need a 7950 or a 660 ti just to run tf2 with another monitor. What I have is an fx-8350 @ 4.4ghz and a sapphire 7850 2GB @ 1140 MHz (please be aware this is a 33% overclock) and I have a dual monitor setup. I always get above 120fps.
"Once I build one that can handle it I do plan on branching out and playing games that have been in my steam inventory forever"
On a 1000 dollar build that includes a 144hz monitor and another 60hz monitor, he can't afford a 7950, nor does he need one. Also, a 7850 (especially overclocked) can run bioshock infinite at ultra with playable frames.
[quote=zilis][quote=EmmaWatson]Holy shit guys, he doesn't need a 7950 or a 660 ti just to run tf2 with another monitor. What I have is an fx-8350 @ 4.4ghz and a sapphire 7850 2GB @ 1140 MHz (please be aware this is a 33% overclock) and I have a dual monitor setup. I always get above 120fps.[/quote]
"Once I build one that can handle it I do plan on branching out and playing games that have been in my steam inventory forever"[/quote]
On a 1000 dollar build that includes a 144hz monitor and another 60hz monitor, he can't afford a 7950, nor does he need one. Also, a 7850 (especially overclocked) can run bioshock infinite at ultra with playable frames.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wf98
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wf98/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wf98/benchmarks/
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.55 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($21.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer S201HLbd 60Hz 20.0" Monitor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1103.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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It's 1100, but it's what you asked for. You can cut costs by going for a cheaper case (you'll probably skimp out on wire management and get bad thermals, so I wouldn't), skip the disk drive (install windows via usb), downgrade the chip to a 6300 (I've heard great things, but it's ultimately up to you), or ofc, drop the 2nd monitor.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wf98
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wf98/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wf98/benchmarks/
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.55 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($21.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer S201HLbd 60Hz 20.0" Monitor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1103.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-10 15:33 EDT-0400)
It's 1100, but it's what you asked for. You can cut costs by going for a cheaper case (you'll probably skimp out on wire management and get bad thermals, so I wouldn't), skip the disk drive (install windows via usb), downgrade the chip to a 6300 (I've heard great things, but it's ultimately up to you), or ofc, drop the 2nd monitor.
might want to consider ebay auctions to make your budget limit.
might want to consider ebay auctions to make your budget limit.