hello, many of you players probably cant help me with this but im going to put this here just incase. i previously used a macbook 13inch laptop with the lowest setting and chris maxframes and would get a constant 230fps on a 24 player badwater server. i use the trackpad on the computer to play and it was smooth and precise. after about 5 months of having it, i spilled milk all over it when i was watching a movie with some friends and broke it, ughhh. later that day, i went and bought a macbook 15inch laptop because i figured bigger is better and got all of my stuff transferred over to my new computer from my old, dead computer. i got all of my tf2 and trackpad settings back to the way they were and eventually got onto tf2. i played on my badwater server, in which i get 2 ping, and had some serious tf2 issues; my fps jumps around form 5 to 45, whenever i move the game freezes and then teleports me (although i have 2 ping), every menu i click is insanely slow to react and whenever i move my trackpad, the in-game crosshair moves 1 second after i initially move it. all of my settings are the same and the 15inch is supposed to be better and have a better processor.
if anyone can help me, post here PLEAAAASE
hello, many of you players probably cant help me with this but im going to put this here just incase. i previously used a macbook 13inch laptop with the lowest setting and chris maxframes and would get a constant 230fps on a 24 player badwater server. i use the trackpad on the computer to play and it was smooth and precise. after about 5 months of having it, i spilled milk all over it when i was watching a movie with some friends and broke it, ughhh. later that day, i went and bought a macbook 15inch laptop because i figured bigger is better and got all of my stuff transferred over to my new computer from my old, dead computer. i got all of my tf2 and trackpad settings back to the way they were and eventually got onto tf2. i played on my badwater server, in which i get 2 ping, and had some serious tf2 issues; my fps jumps around form 5 to 45, whenever i move the game freezes and then teleports me (although i have 2 ping), every menu i click is insanely slow to react and whenever i move my trackpad, the in-game crosshair moves 1 second after i initially move it. all of my settings are the same and the 15inch is supposed to be better and have a better processor.
if anyone can help me, post here PLEAAAASE
on my mac i have the same frame rate jumping but it usually smooths out a little after a while but i don't have any of your other problems so maybe multiple issues
on my mac i have the same frame rate jumping but it usually smooths out a little after a while but i don't have any of your other problems so maybe multiple issues
I assume you're playing on osx and have not installed windows via bootcamp?
Honestly, if you really wanna play this game and get good performance, you gotta play on windows. Even though you have a mac, that doesn't mean you can't get every benefit of playing in windows with no downsides.
I've played tf2 on my macbook pro 15 inch for over two years and I get great performance in windows. I don't remember what kind of fps I got on the osx partition, I just remembered that in windows it was 10x better and I don't know how I ever played tf2 on the mac side.
You gave a good bit of information, but a lot of it was useless. Like, basically the entire part about spilling milk on your 13 inch was unnecessary lol. Also you haven't really asked any specific question so I don't even know where to begin about giving you advice. There are so many things in the details that could be affecting your performance.
But overall, it seems like your ultimate goal is to achieve better performance. To me, installing windows via bootcamp (it's very easy, there's even an application on your mac now called "bootcamp assistant" that helps you install it) is the first step toward getting better performance. With windows, you'll have a more suited array of tools that will help you diagnose your computers performance. With osx and gaming, I don't think you should be that surprised if the performance isn't great, EVEN THOUGH you claim you had better performance with your old computer.
tl;dr--- I don't know how to diagnose your problem with the information you've given. But, if you install windows via bootcamp you will most likely get better performance right off the bat, and will be able to tweak the system and the game to make tf2 run better.
I assume you're playing on osx and have not installed windows via bootcamp?
Honestly, if you really wanna play this game and get good performance, you gotta play on windows. Even though you have a mac, that doesn't mean you can't get every benefit of playing in windows with no downsides.
I've played tf2 on my macbook pro 15 inch for over two years and I get great performance in windows. I don't remember what kind of fps I got on the osx partition, I just remembered that in windows it was 10x better and I don't know how I ever played tf2 on the mac side.
You gave a good bit of information, but a lot of it was useless. Like, basically the entire part about spilling milk on your 13 inch was unnecessary lol. Also you haven't really asked any specific question so I don't even know where to begin about giving you advice. There are so many things in the details that could be affecting your performance.
But overall, it seems like your ultimate goal is to achieve better performance. To me, installing windows via bootcamp (it's very easy, there's even an application on your mac now called "bootcamp assistant" that helps you install it) is the first step toward getting better performance. With windows, you'll have a more suited array of tools that will help you diagnose your computers performance. With osx and gaming, I don't think you should be that surprised if the performance isn't great, EVEN THOUGH you claim you had better performance with your old computer.
tl;dr--- I don't know how to diagnose your problem with the information you've given. But, if you install windows via bootcamp you will most likely get better performance right off the bat, and will be able to tweak the system and the game to make tf2 run better.
use windows, thats my best advice
use windows, thats my best advice
Chances are you accidentally downgraded if you didn't compare the specs of your old computer vs your new one - the old one probably is probably significantly better when comparing the GPU, CPU, etc. I find that would probably be the most significant factor, because it doesn't seem to me like the difference between Windows and OSX would be THAT big.
Chances are you accidentally downgraded if you didn't compare the specs of your old computer vs your new one - the old one probably is probably significantly better when comparing the GPU, CPU, etc. I find that would probably be the most significant factor, because it doesn't seem to me like the difference between Windows and OSX would be THAT big.
BrinkChances are you accidentally downgraded if you didn't compare the specs of your old computer vs your new one - the old one probably is probably significantly better when comparing the GPU, CPU, etc. I find that would probably be the most significant factor, because it doesn't seem to me like the difference between Windows and OSX would be THAT big.
While it's true that if the new computer performs lesser than the old, the difference in windows vs osx wouldn't likely be much, you still will get better performance in windows. osx uses openGL for graphics I believe, and osx is unable to use directx graphics. The fps configs he uses are therefore not that helpful as most fps configs are designed to work with directx settings. So, I agree that the 15inch could very likely have been a downgrade, he will still gain more options for increasing performance by using windows.
[quote=Brink]Chances are you accidentally downgraded if you didn't compare the specs of your old computer vs your new one - the old one probably is probably significantly better when comparing the GPU, CPU, etc. I find that would probably be the most significant factor, because it doesn't seem to me like the difference between Windows and OSX would be THAT big.[/quote]
While it's true that if the new computer performs lesser than the old, the difference in windows vs osx wouldn't likely be much, you still will get better performance in windows. osx uses openGL for graphics I believe, and osx is unable to use directx graphics. The fps configs he uses are therefore not that helpful as most fps configs are designed to work with directx settings. So, I agree that the 15inch could very likely have been a downgrade, he will still gain more options for increasing performance by using windows.
BrinkChances are you accidentally downgraded if you didn't compare the specs of your old computer vs your new one - the old one probably is probably significantly better when comparing the GPU, CPU, etc. I find that would probably be the most significant factor, because it doesn't seem to me like the difference between Windows and OSX would be THAT big.
in my experience the difference between windows and osx on the same computer (early 2012 17" macbook pro, 2.4ghz, 4gb ram, AMD Radeon HD 6770M 1024mb) is an additional 20~ avg fps and much faster loading times on windows. it's enough to make me only play it on windows (also i don't feel like downloading steampipe twice) but not sure it would be worth spending the £70 or so on a copy of windows just for that.
maybe the fps increase is more pronounced if you use a config or something, idk. i've never tried that.
[quote=Brink]Chances are you accidentally downgraded if you didn't compare the specs of your old computer vs your new one - the old one probably is probably significantly better when comparing the GPU, CPU, etc. I find that would probably be the most significant factor, because it doesn't seem to me like the difference between Windows and OSX would be THAT big.[/quote]
in my experience the difference between windows and osx on the same computer (early 2012 17" macbook pro, 2.4ghz, 4gb ram, AMD Radeon HD 6770M 1024mb) is an additional 20~ avg fps and much faster loading times on windows. it's enough to make me only play it on windows (also i don't feel like downloading steampipe twice) but not sure it would be worth spending the £70 or so on a copy of windows just for that.
maybe the fps increase is more pronounced if you use a config or something, idk. i've never tried that.
kiriBrinkChances are you accidentally downgraded if you didn't compare the specs of your old computer vs your new one - the old one probably is probably significantly better when comparing the GPU, CPU, etc. I find that would probably be the most significant factor, because it doesn't seem to me like the difference between Windows and OSX would be THAT big.
in my experience the difference between windows and osx on the same computer (early 2012 17" macbook pro, 2.4ghz, 4gb ram, AMD Radeon HD 6770M 1024mb) is an additional 20~ avg fps and much faster loading times on windows. it's enough to make me only play it on windows (also i don't feel like downloading steampipe twice) but not sure it would be worth spending the £70 or so on a copy of windows just for that.
maybe the fps increase is more pronounced if you use a config or something, idk. i've never tried that.
Whoa hey now, I never said anything about paying for windows. But i'm not saying anything about pirating. I'll just say that getting a copy of windows isn't that hard.
For myself, and almost a dozen other people I've converted into bootcamp users, the fps increase is usually double or more. This includes tweaking the windows system for performance, and yes using configs and various settings.
[quote=kiri][quote=Brink]Chances are you accidentally downgraded if you didn't compare the specs of your old computer vs your new one - the old one probably is probably significantly better when comparing the GPU, CPU, etc. I find that would probably be the most significant factor, because it doesn't seem to me like the difference between Windows and OSX would be THAT big.[/quote]
in my experience the difference between windows and osx on the same computer (early 2012 17" macbook pro, 2.4ghz, 4gb ram, AMD Radeon HD 6770M 1024mb) is an additional 20~ avg fps and much faster loading times on windows. it's enough to make me only play it on windows (also i don't feel like downloading steampipe twice) but not sure it would be worth spending the £70 or so on a copy of windows just for that.
maybe the fps increase is more pronounced if you use a config or something, idk. i've never tried that.[/quote]
Whoa hey now, I never said anything about paying for windows. But i'm not saying anything about pirating. I'll just say that getting a copy of windows isn't that hard.
For myself, and almost a dozen other people I've converted into bootcamp users, the fps increase is usually double or more. This includes tweaking the windows system for performance, and yes using configs and various settings.