It's okay during stalemates, but the amount of damage from rocket jumping isn't typically worth the tradeoff from what I've experienced.

Edit: also, you should ideally have a health buff so the black box won't typically help you health-wise.

I noticed shadowburn using the conc. with the blackbox which looked interesting.

if u never want to be aggressive ever and always want to be annoying its great

4 rockets is really good most of the time

someone used to sandbag in tf2mix with this, i forget who it was, it was super annoying

black box + conch roamer is pretty good u cant really bomb well but u can just spam rockets at the flank never die because 2hp a second and 15 per rocket then when u push u got that conch ready

i mean ya but if u just use fucking gunboats u literally get enough hp to rj every time u hit a rocket so if u can manage to hit 33% of ur rockets ur god damn invincible

I tried out roaming with Black Box and Shotgun the other night, and it was a lot of fun; pretty effective too. I ended up doing way more damage than I usually do, and was still able to get behind people and wreak havoc.

I'm still just not sure if the 15 HP is worth losing one rocket for, sometimes it seems like I should just run the classic rocket launcher and deal with heaving less health. Having a shotgun on roamer is sweet though.

It's ok if you're a passive roamer who just watches the flank i.e. GeaR. Haven't seen shadowburn do anything this season that's legitimized his decision to run black box and conch - he'd be much more effective just running default and using his good DM to hit 4 good rockets.

For most players (and teams who rely on their roamers to make space, force ubers and distract) RL/gunboats/equalizer is gonna be the best loadout.
Paintrain if you want to make distracting with backcaps etc a big part of your team plan (limited effectiveness once teams figure out you're doing this but still pretty good), black box if you want to just hold the flank and have two DM-heavy scouts who can rip through teams with an aggressive pocket, shotgun if you're passive like above but have really good hitscan aim and can 1v1 scouts consistently, and conch if you're retarded (honestly cannot see any reason why you would run this on roamer, it makes no sense if you're playing against reasonable-level teams because you have to play so passively or you die before you can make use of it, plus you have to be with the combo on pushes which fucks stuff up so badly).
That's my opinion on it anyway. You don't see many loadout changes in EU prem at least for roamer because the "default" (i.e. gunboats eq) makes the roamer very effective at helping the team - the other unlocks may help you in certain situations but overall I think you're gonna let your team down in crucial scenarios where they need you.

EDIT: I think I made shotgun seem more viable than it really is - you legitimately need ridiculous shotgun aim and you need your team to only need you to hold flank. Same as black box, you need to be only holding the flank and taking those scout fights, you won't be able to jump anywhere or make room or distractions, even forcing will be a pain (but you will get at least one drop to shotgun :D)

wait until seagull posts for your answer

this should bring him out

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why does every fucking thread in tftv have to get spammed with gifs/reaction images/macros/memes/other dumb shit?

it's not that serious dude

you're on a gaming forum, CHILL

http://i.imgur.com/g9g4ovb.jpg

3 rockets plus less mobility. Your playing pocket without heals

blackbox should be banned because it slows down the game

So why post something that has nothing to do with gaming outside of the "off topic" sub forum?

the liberty launcher is the real truth

Blackbox is viable on pretty much any map, you just need to play passive and trade spam with the flank.

usually on forums like these, posting pictures/gifs in threads like this should be minimal but posting them doesn't usually taint the whole thread

get a laugh from it or shit on it, and move on
this is one of the reasons why forum browsing/posting is entertaining and fun

yeah the truth is its banned

also blackbox is awesome, its really fun to play with. of course you're gonna have those moments when you wish you had the 1 extra rocket...but the extra HP is too good

imo the black box needs some work. I would like it to be more like the widowmaker where you get what you give. Something around 35% hp per damage so that when you hit a direct for 100 you get 35 health back but 30 damage spam rockets only give 10. Or maybe some sort of ramp up system where it goes from 5hp from 30 to 40hp from 100. This would encourage and reward more aggressive, fast paced play.

http://youtu.be/Iz9KI2GDIVY

I don't understand, the only time the +15 actually would have made a difference was after you killed the med (you were down to like 90?), if you had also killed the soldier (but he killed you before it mattered). Other than that it was just a bunch of people running around not hitting you. I'm pretty sure you could have been under 100 that entire time and it wouldn't have made a difference.

In fact, if you had 4 rockets instead of just 3, you probably would have done more there.

I enjoy my bombs way too much to have only 3 rockets. Granted, I'm literally trashcan tier, so take that as you will.

yeah and the quick fix is perfectly balanced as well

i don't know whats worse about this clip, you letting your med die right away even with quickfix, the horrible rockets, the other team being brain dead and not focusing you and having a sniper, but yeah you're probably right about the black box

is that from a lobby or what?

u play demo, stickies slow down the game more than anything i can think of besides maybe uber

yeah but that's just how demo is, we don't need something else to slow down the game further
also you can't ban stickies

im not exactly sure how it slows the game down though, most people who use blackbox get behind the other team during a push and pressure them while their team pushes. please explain