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#61
Ascent
-2 Frags +
StarkMa3laaCHERRYShould users be able to cancel their bets, raise them and switch teams before the match begins?
I'd go without the last two, not sure how do you feel about it. Please keep in mind that payouts depend on the loosers pool.

Only switch teams.
i dont see a problem with raising their bets as well

ya

[quote=Stark][quote=Ma3laa][quote=CHERRY]Should users be able to cancel their bets, raise them and switch teams before the match begins?
I'd go without the last two, not sure how do you feel about it. Please keep in mind that payouts depend on the loosers pool.[/quote]

Only switch teams.[/quote]
i dont see a problem with raising their bets as well[/quote]

ya
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#62
3 Frags +

Gonna accept buds, bills hats and craftable hats later (they will be sold for different items if needed after the match for scrap.tf's prices).

Gonna accept buds, bills hats and craftable hats later (they will be sold for different items if needed after the match for scrap.tf's prices).
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#63
8 Frags +

http://i.imgur.com/iIMrXYJ.png

[img]http://i.imgur.com/iIMrXYJ.png[/img]
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#64
5 Frags +

Also gonna disable registration for now and remove existing user accounts.

Also gonna disable registration for now and remove existing user accounts.
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#65
1 Frags +

Who gets the dosh if Team A wins the game itself, but Team B gets the default? Georgia-Ukraine is a good example.
And you need an option for draws as well. (and remember that some games aren't even allowed to end with a draw at all)

Who gets the dosh if Team A wins the game itself, but Team B gets the default? Georgia-Ukraine is a good example.
And you need an option for draws as well. (and remember that some games aren't even allowed to end with a draw at all)
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#66
2 Frags +

Draws are easy everyone gets their items returned, what else is there to do? :) Georgia won by default, those who bet on them would get the items.

Draws are easy everyone gets their items returned, what else is there to do? :) Georgia won by default, those who bet on them would get the items.
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#67
1 Frags +

Should we accept all item listen on backpack.tf and redistribute them later using their prices? Or just hats (1.22 each) + metal + keys + promos or maybe also paints and count theirs and hat's value using backpack.tf's prices?

Should we accept all item listen on backpack.tf and redistribute them later using their prices? Or just hats (1.22 each) + metal + keys + promos or maybe also paints and count theirs and hat's value using backpack.tf's prices?
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#68
2 Frags +

I think you can go as far as you like in assigning value to items. If people disagree with the sites universal assessment of value (say in refined or keys) then they just shouldnt bet those items.

While it would be sort of annoying to get items you dont want from a bet, that is pretty much the system of every other game betting site :)

I think you can go as far as you like in assigning value to items. If people disagree with the sites universal assessment of value (say in refined or keys) then they just shouldnt bet those items.

While it would be sort of annoying to get items you dont want from a bet, that is pretty much the system of every other game betting site :)
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#69
9 Frags +

You might want to address games that are likely to be very one sided and therefore likely to attract fewer bets by offering a score based bet, such as Froyotech to win by 3 rounds or more rather than just Froyotech to win. The downside is that this isn't automatic and is a bit more difficult to understand for the punter.

One thing to consider with bets being moved or retracted as suggested above is that people will (if they're thinking) place bets on one team on the strength of bets on the other team as much as who they think will win, so bets being retracted will potentially cause an undesirable knock on effect of lots of bets being removed/moved.

It leaves the system open to collusion, two players could make bets, one small and the other very big, and other punters would pile on the other side at the sight of all the loot available. Just before the match or bet retraction time limit the big gambler of the colluding pair retracts their bet. This leaves all the punters on the other side standing to gain much less while the small bettor stands to win a huge amount at very little risk. Obviously there will be more players involved than just a handful, but the potential effect is there.

You might want to address games that are likely to be very one sided and therefore likely to attract fewer bets by offering a score based bet, such as Froyotech to win by 3 rounds or more rather than just Froyotech to win. The downside is that this isn't automatic and is a bit more difficult to understand for the punter.

One thing to consider with bets being moved or retracted as suggested above is that people will (if they're thinking) place bets on one team on the strength of bets on the other team as much as who they think will win, so bets being retracted will potentially cause an undesirable knock on effect of lots of bets being removed/moved.

It leaves the system open to collusion, two players could make bets, one small and the other very big, and other punters would pile on the other side at the sight of all the loot available. Just before the match or bet retraction time limit the big gambler of the colluding pair retracts their bet. This leaves all the punters on the other side standing to gain much less while the small bettor stands to win a huge amount at very little risk. Obviously there will be more players involved than just a handful, but the potential effect is there.
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#70
1 Frags +
GentlemanJonYou might want to address games that are likely to be very one sided and therefore likely to attract fewer bets by offering a score based bet, such as Froyotech to win by 3 rounds or more rather than just Froyotech to win. The downside is that this isn't automatic and is a bit more difficult to understand for the punter.

One thing to consider with bets being moved or retracted as suggested above is that people will (if they're thinking) place bets on one team on the strength of bets on the other team as much as who they think will win, so bets being retracted will potentially cause an undesirable knock on effect of lots of bets being removed/moved.

It leaves the system open to collusion, two players could make bets, one small and the other very big, and other punters would pile on the other side at the sight of all the loot available. Just before the match or bet retraction time limit the big gambler of the colluding pair retracts their bet. This leaves all the punters on the other side standing to gain much less while the small bettor stands to win a huge amount at very little risk. Obviously there will be more players involved than just a handful, but the potential effect is there.

That's why I was worried about retracting bets, still not sure about moving. Score based bets sounds like a good idea! No one would be crazy enough to bet against Epsilon

[quote=GentlemanJon]You might want to address games that are likely to be very one sided and therefore likely to attract fewer bets by offering a score based bet, such as Froyotech to win by 3 rounds or more rather than just Froyotech to win. The downside is that this isn't automatic and is a bit more difficult to understand for the punter.

One thing to consider with bets being moved or retracted as suggested above is that people will (if they're thinking) place bets on one team on the strength of bets on the other team as much as who they think will win, so bets being retracted will potentially cause an undesirable knock on effect of lots of bets being removed/moved.

It leaves the system open to collusion, two players could make bets, one small and the other very big, and other punters would pile on the other side at the sight of all the loot available. Just before the match or bet retraction time limit the big gambler of the colluding pair retracts their bet. This leaves all the punters on the other side standing to gain much less while the small bettor stands to win a huge amount at very little risk. Obviously there will be more players involved than just a handful, but the potential effect is there.[/quote]
That's why I was worried about retracting bets, still not sure about moving. Score based bets sounds like a good idea! No one would be crazy enough to bet against Epsilon
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#71
3 Frags +
CHERRYNo one would be crazy enough to bet against Epsilon

Unless they are playing against Awsomniac or Americans.

CHERRYDraws are easy everyone gets their items returned, what else is there to do?

1) Add a third option for draws since it's a possible outcome? Betting for a draw would be a pretty smart and a popular choice for certain games.
2) If the game ends with a draw, the ones that were betting on the favorite get less items, while people that betted on the underdogs get more.

Edit: 1) and 2) are two different options, I just realized that it wasn't as obvious

[quote=CHERRY]No one would be crazy enough to bet against Epsilon[/quote]
Unless they are playing against Awsomniac or Americans.
[quote=CHERRY]Draws are easy everyone gets their items returned, what else is there to do?[/quote]
1) Add a third option for draws since it's a possible outcome? Betting for a draw would be a pretty smart and a popular choice for certain games.
2) If the game ends with a draw, the ones that were betting on the favorite get less items, while people that betted on the underdogs get more.

[i]Edit: 1) and 2) are two different options, I just realized that it wasn't as obvious[/i]
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#72
2 Frags +

I'll take the second into consideration! Like splitting both groups pool equally. I.e when the bets will be 75% - 25%, 25% of the first groups items will be transferred to the second.

I'll take the second into consideration! Like splitting both groups pool equally. I.e when the bets will be 75% - 25%, 25% of the first groups items will be transferred to the second.
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#73
0 Frags +

I like how this is progressing, great work!

I like how this is progressing, great work!
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#74
8 Frags +

Saloon.tf's accepting all hats, miscs, paint cans and keys which quality is unique, vintage or genuie and their value is between one scrap's and earbud's for now.
Here is how item sorting and qualities colors look so far:

http://i.imgur.com/eKGcUzP.png

Saloon.tf's accepting all hats, miscs, paint cans and keys which quality is unique, vintage or genuie and their value is between one scrap's and earbud's for now.
Here is how item sorting and qualities colors look so far:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/eKGcUzP.png[/img]
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#75
8 Frags +
XacherCHERRYNo one would be crazy enough to bet against EpsilonUnless they are playing against Awsomniac or Americans.

or lazy pandas

[quote=Xacher][quote=CHERRY]No one would be crazy enough to bet against Epsilon[/quote]
Unless they are playing against Awsomniac or Americans.[/quote]
or lazy pandas
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#76
0 Frags +

Lazy Pandas lost against Epsilon didn't they?

Lazy Pandas lost against Epsilon didn't they?
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#77
0 Frags +

Yeah, they did on Process if i am not mistaken. They almost lost turbine too.

Yeah, they did on Process if i am not mistaken. They almost lost turbine too.
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#78
1 Frags +

I could use some paint cans for tests, so if you're willing to lend me some add me on Steam and we'll talk: http://steamcommunity.com/id/123coke/.
I will give you them back in a week's time unless you want them earlier.

I could use some paint cans for tests, so if you're willing to lend me some add me on Steam and we'll talk: http://steamcommunity.com/id/123coke/.
I will give you them back in a week's time unless you want them earlier.
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#79
2 Frags +

http://i.imgur.com/WluTwVZ.png

With flag icons or without them?

[img]http://i.imgur.com/WluTwVZ.png[/img]
With flag icons or without them?
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#80
6 Frags +

maybe make the flags an icon as a part of the name, i.e. here at tftv in the header of posts.

maybe make the flags an icon as a part of the name, i.e. here at tftv in the header of posts.
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#81
2 Frags +

With, but I personally like visuals.

mthsadmaybe make the flags an icon as a part of the name, i.e. here at tftv in the header of posts.

What he said.

With, but I personally like visuals.

[quote=mthsad]maybe make the flags an icon as a part of the name, i.e. here at tftv in the header of posts.[/quote]

What he said.
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#82
Ascent
2 Frags +

leave the flag icons and then just replace them with the team logos for other matches

leave the flag icons and then just replace them with the team logos for other matches
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#83
0 Frags +
mthsadmaybe make the flags an icon as a part of the name, i.e. here at tftv in the header of posts.

But that's teams' avatars. I meant waving flag icons.

[quote=mthsad]maybe make the flags an icon as a part of the name, i.e. here at tftv in the header of posts.[/quote]
But that's teams' avatars. I meant [b]waving flag icons[/b].
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#84
6 Frags +

What's the purpose of the waving flag icons? I say remove them unless they have a purpose other than to look pretty, they just kind of clutter it up.

What's the purpose of the waving flag icons? I say remove them unless they have a purpose other than to look pretty, they just kind of clutter it up.
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#85
10 Frags +

http://i.imgur.com/seQYFdo.jpg


Something I've been working on yesterday, live logs will work for all CEVO matches (thanks to Lange) and all european matches casted by BlackOut (thanks to Arie and Blackout | Jon)

[url=http://i.imgur.com/seQYFdo.jpg][img]http://i.imgur.com/seQYFdo.jpg[/img][/url]
Something I've been working on yesterday, live logs will work for all CEVO matches (thanks to Lange) and all european matches casted by BlackOut (thanks to Arie and Blackout | Jon)
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#86
2 Frags +
CHERRYSomething I've been working on yesterday, live logs will work for all CEVO matches (thanks to Lange) and all european matches casted by BlackOut (thanks to Arie and Blackout | Jon)

Holy shit. Awesome. The top secret addon pokes its head out into the wild!

[quote=CHERRY]
Something I've been working on yesterday, live logs will work for all CEVO matches (thanks to Lange) and all european matches casted by BlackOut (thanks to Arie and Blackout | Jon)[/quote]

Holy shit. Awesome. The top secret addon pokes its head out into the wild!
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#87
12 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NXn9h1T-08

Thanks to huhy for making a video and evokje for streaming!
Even though the league icon says MaxPlay the stream was recorded on TryhardBrigade's TDM server (couldn't care to remove it from CloudFlare's cache)

The feed has a few bugs, like wrong delay, but I hope it gives you the general idea.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NXn9h1T-08[/youtube]
Thanks to huhy for making a video and evokje for streaming!
Even though the league icon says MaxPlay the stream was recorded on TryhardBrigade's TDM server (couldn't care to remove it from CloudFlare's cache)

The feed has a few bugs, like wrong delay, but I hope it gives you the general idea.
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#88
8 Frags +

Can't wait for this to go live!

Can't wait for this to go live!
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#89
3 Frags +

Time for some future 322's

Time for some future 322's
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#90
5 Frags +

This will be insane!!

This will be insane!!
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